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rambis

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He hadn't cancelled the meeting at the time of that post, so what's your point? And I'm not quick to defend Trump. I'm quick to bring reason to the discussion beyond just hating Trump. If that's all there is, then there is nothing to even discuss.

You keep moving the goal posts for some strange reason. People were telling you this would happen a while ago yet you deflected. And here you are again. Who sent you?
 

DrewFu

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You keep moving the goal posts for some strange reason. People were telling you this would happen a while ago yet you deflected. And here you are again. Who sent you?
You're right, I thought the meeting would happen. On time no less. I was wrong. That doesn't change the fact that simply blaming Trump for this is foolish. The subject and blame is much broader than that.

If you think that somehow makes me some kind of Trump mark, I honestly don't care.
 

Pedrito

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Nov 4, 2017
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I hope we get a Q drop today to tell us what the hell is going on here. What's the point of getting everyone hyped up for this monumental, historic occasion, only to pull the rug out from us at the last minute? I don't get this one....yeah i know - trust the plan, and all that...

Please Q, tell us what to think!
 

wisdom0wl

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Can't SK still work something out with NK? Fuck the US. America can go kick rocks and chew glass.
 

Wolf of Yharnam

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Why would anyone ever trust the USA after this one? Good job American voters.

What a maniac, boasting about nuclear weapons in a formal letter
 

PaddingtonDidntDoIt

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Whether you are accepting of this fact or not: your president is going to fire nuclear weapons at some point in his term.
 

DrewFu

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Can't SK still work something out with NK? Fuck the US. America can go kick rocks and chew glass.
They can't officially end the korean war without the US, but they can certainly work other deals out. I'm not sure how much NK wants to, though. Their main goal seemed to be a meeting and deal with the US. A deal with SK doesn't give them the global recognition they strive for.
 

Captain Goodnight

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Member has been banned (24h): inapproptiate GIF. Please do not post it anymore despite your strong feelings for it.
Remember my post from the original thread on the peace talk announcement? I posted this, and it was misinterpreted to just be treating a serious event sarcastically and disrespectfully and was subsequently removed with warning given:

MOD Edit: Removed inappropriate and off-topic gif.


On the contrary, what I meant it to convey was a combination of both "it's a trap" with something that on the surface looks off the charts pleasing.

Looks like this feeling was dead on. Still one of my favorite gifs of alltime.
 
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rambis

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You're right, I thought the meeting would happen. On time no less. I was wrong. That doesn't change the fact that simply blaming Trump for this is foolish. The subject and blame is much broader than that.

If you think that somehow makes me some kind of Trump mark, I honestly don't care.
Trump was on Fox News calling Kim Rocket Man while there were supposed to be ongoing peace talks. He makes us look like damned idiots for even agreeing to all of this in the first place despite multiple people telling him not to. Trump absolutely gets the blame for this fiasco that he started.

I don't care that Kim did what NK does. Its up to our leader to see thru it and he fails spectacularly on a daily basis. I don't know why Trump is constantly supposed to get a pass.
 

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You're right, I thought the meeting would happen. On time no less. I was wrong. That doesn't change the fact that simply blaming Trump for this is foolish. The subject and blame is much broader than that.

If you think that somehow makes me some kind of Trump mark, I honestly don't care.

Read up on the Obama/Castro summit. It was years of secret diplomatic efforts and public exchanges. The meeting happened once negotiators got very far down the road and it reached a point where no one was going to back down.

Trump rushed this "long-planned" (lol) meeting off a cliff. 100% his fault. Other administrations had attempted to negotiate with lower level career officials, but when you can't get to speed on the runway, you don't try and fly.
 

oldboss

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What.the.FUCK.

The most shocking part about this whole debacle is certainly the wording of that letter. Unbelievable.
 

DrewFu

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Read up on the Obama/Castro summit. It was years of secret diplomatic efforts and public exchanges. The meeting happened once negotiators got very far down the road and it reached a point where no one was going to back down.

Trump rushed this "long-planned" (lol) meeting off a cliff. 100% his fault. Other administrations had attempted to negotiate with lower level career officials, but when you can't get to speed on the runway, you don't try and fly.
Oh no doubt the meeting was far too rushed. But this is not 100% his fault. That's silly.
 

Ithil

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Please Q, tell us what to think!
Look at this shit. "Trust the plan". Literally means "don't ever question Trump or his decisions".
Morons are watching a dog chase its tail and trying to determine what the dog's master plan is. Also the dog is three generations inbred and had a lobotomy by a doctor with no thumbs.
 

Wolfgunblood

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Trump is a man child. That letter is like the 100th revision of an email to your ex girlfriend after she dumped you. I'm not hurt, I'm just calmly explaining how you messed up and will regret it. Maybe one day we can try again once you admit to me what you did wrong that ruined the relationship. I'm not holding my breath, though. *checks email frequently for a reply even though there's no notification* Maybe I turned off Gmail notifications, I'll check
 

Amalthea

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Look at this shit. "Trust the plan". Literally means "don't ever question Trump or his decisions".
Morons are watching a dog chase its tail and trying to determine what the dog's master plan is. Also the dog is three generations inbred and had a lobotomy by a doctor with no thumbs.
lol This is a perfect description.
 

Myradeer

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Oct 25, 2017
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What? This was only thing I was somewhat satisfied with Trump administration, regardless of some dissidents here. And now he cancels it because NK badmouthed them lol
 

Greg NYC3

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Trump is a man child. That letter is like the 100th revision of an email to your ex girlfriend after she dumped you. I'm not hurt, see- I'm just calmly explaining how you messed up and will regret it. Maybe one day we can try again once you admit to me what you did wrong that ruined the relationship. I'm not holding my breath, though. *checks email frequently for a reply even though there's no notification* Maybe I turned off Gmail notifications, I'll check
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This is a little too accurate, lol
 

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The Summit Commemorative Coin is on sale. Should I buy it? Apparently they changed the design to include Moon so I dunno if it's still worth it.
 

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Oh no doubt the meeting was far too rushed. But this is not 100% his fault. That's silly.

It's not his fault he failed in normalization with NK, but it is his fault the meeting between himself and Kim fell through, if only because it's certain he should have known thi was set up for failure.

There's the "peace process" and peace itself. He 100% botched this latest peace process attempt himself. Other peace efforts by previous administrations, they can at least point to it falling apart on other grounds, but it is damaging for the US internationally to be writting letters where *they* are the party walking away from the table while making idle threats. That's the real loss here, the effect these botched negotiations will have when the US needs to work with other nations.
 
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