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30-year-old man is being sued by his parents because he refuses to leave home
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He got a baby momma and no job. He's unable to keep a retail job at Best Buy. He doesn't even have part time custody of his child. Apologies if your life is somehow worse than this.
This was hard to watch and good job on the lady keeping it together. That good bye at the end:
"I'm a millennial!"
*awkward pause*
".... yes...."
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Not everyone has the previlages you had. Remember that before posting something stupid.
My guess is he's trying to parlay all this media attention to celebrity. Let's see how that pans out for him.
Lol at some oeopeo saying you should move out soon as you are 20. The hell so gonna be renting for eternity with no chance of saving up for a deposit on a house. This ain't the olden baby boomer generation where you can buy a house with a basic job and your wife can be a housewife. In this age you either have to live with parents longer to save up, or find a partner who has savings and both plan to work full time and delay having kids.
Or... you can link up with other individuals to share a space and expenses, there are options.
Or you can rely on family, that's what family is for rather than strangers. I guess I'm from a different culture so won't understand the idea of moving out so young especially if that destroys the chance of having a nice comfortable life financially. This isn't the olden days where house prices are cheap you can't replicate the lives of the older generation.
This and I also feel the guy in the video is not a good representation of millennials who live at home.
I work and go to school I don't pay rent but I help with bills and chores. I haven't been asked to leave but if I was I would go. Until then I'm staying were I am until I get my degree and will save my money. My family loves me and I love them , and will support them like they are doing me now when they get very old.
Bottom line is that there are options, some are tougher than others, but by no means should a parent be forced to take care of their adult children. The key word here is "forced".
I think its generally accepted that some adults still live with their parents, which is why insurance policies cover dependants well into their 20s.
That's because y'all could live in a single family home on one income. No excuse for this grown ass man not to be out but come on.
Obviously in this scenario the 30 year old man is in the wrong as he hasn't even bothered to even try. But if your child is trying and the parent still is in a rush to kick their own child out then I have no respect for the parents.
My grandparents enabled my mother all her life. I grew up in my grandparents home. But in reality, it was probably for the best because she wasn't the greatest mother. It only took until she was 70 for her mental health finally get addressed and now she lives in her own little world.
Instead of enabling, the problems that got them to this point need to get addressed. On his side and his parents side.
Instead of enabling, the problems that got them to this point need to get addressed. On his side and his parents side.
Well I just read an article about the average age in European countries to leave the parental household. In my country it is just over 30 years old or 30,1 (and this is average), so I'm starting to feel less guilty about leaving my parent's home permanently (I'm not considering the temporary leave during my past 3 years degree) now that I'm 31-32.
Original source (table) if you want it in english and in a table format: http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=yth_demo_030&lang=en
It's so different for mediterranean countries from the US perspective I can read here. Never realized before this topic that outside europe the perspective was so different.
Original source (table) if you want it in english and in a table format: http://appsso.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/nui/show.do?dataset=yth_demo_030&lang=en
It's so different for mediterranean countries from the US perspective I can read here. Never realized before this topic that outside europe the perspective was so different.
That was a very difficult video to watch through .. oof.
God bless those parents for staying sane all these years.
I don't think it's unreasonable to suggest what Zoukka did. From my own experience, I also think people mature faster and gain more experiences when living on their own. Obviously there are plenty of circumstances where living at home a bit longer makes sense, but getting out on your own isn't some impossible task where only the rich have the option. Not everyone who managed to make a go of it did so because of any 'privileges'. We just got roommates, worked multiple jobs, and/or spent within our means be it in daily life, school, or other.
That is really different. I imagine Asian countries would have similar numbers.
I'm thinking the other big difference would be contribution. Everybody would be sharing expenses and workload equally. In North American there is too many who expect to do nothing and contribute little financially. They just want to continue their high school lifestyle free ride for as long as they can get away with it.
His parents probably would have let him ride if he wasn't a dick. Those letters were getting so desperate, you know he was on some scumbag shit
To be honest, here no parents would really ask rent from their son, even if he was working full time (within reason obviously). Like for example from a 20-23 year old, asking rent to live at home would be insane for most italian families (unless they are in deep financial troubles). To me it really doesn't make sense. Parents here build savings their whole life so that they can pass it to their sons and daughters when they will die. I don't think I know anyone of my age (30-32 years old) paying rent to live at their parent's home. Sharing the workload and sharing expenses for groceries, yes that is normal and expected. But not really paying rent to your parents. Even for bills, I only know of one friend who is asked to pay half of the bills while living with their parents (but absolutely no rent), and don't know anyone else in that situation.
I mean if I ever were a parent, i would feel deeply ashamed to ask my son rent while he is only 20-25 years old, and is trying to save for its retirement (without a private retirement fund and savings it would mean he will live in poverty when he will be old here in my country so starting to save from 20 years old is very important). There is also an economical factor, here salaries are really low for young people, so the gap when they are adults and live at family house is the only real part of their life when they can save decent amount of money for their retirement or to be able to afford to buy a house later in life. When they will move to live on their own, it's nearly impossible to save anything because rents are high and salaries low (less lucky people earn 700-800 euro, the lucky ones 1200-1300 per month and rent is about 600-700 in my area for a 100 square mts flat on your own in the suburbs and not city centre, while for a 50 mt one bedroom flat is around 500)
There is also a question of how can a parent reasonably ask for rent (unless we are talking symbolic amounts) from their son, knowing that he will have to be supported in 20 years (intially part-time and then nearly full time when really old). I mean, here in my country the sons will take care of their elders (for the most part) both financially and personally (personal care). I mean if I will have to pay for all their care when old, I just don't think it's right for a parent to ask money from a 20 years old. Especially since it doesn't make sense, so do parents become strangers after children tun 18? I mean those same parents asking for rent will have to carriedby their sons to do shoppings when older, will need rides when going to doctor (because too old to drive), or to fix things at their homes, and when they will become really old their sons will have to take care of them (in some cases even moving to their son's home or having to pay a full-time nurse which costs nearly a full salary if not more).
Aren't the properties and savings of parents meant to be passed to the following generation so that they will have a better life? So why ask for money from someone who is in desperate need to save money to avoid poverty when he will be old? I mean my grandparents did the same: a life of sacrifices to leave at least some kind of property to their children so that they will have a better life when adults then their predecessors.
I can understand if maybe they are young people not working, not studying and well over their 30s (like the cringe-worthy person in the video/article mentioned above), then obviously it's right for parents to try to shake them up or force them out.
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I loved his response that he wasn't expected to help out AND that he wasn't given enough time to move out. Then after the court ruled against him, he bitched about the time again saying "They could at least give me 30 days". They gave you 5 notices you dumb fuck! If your parents are taking you to court then chances are you KNEW this was coming and you still tried to be a deadbeat.
ALso, reading the letters, you could TELL the parents would have let him slide if he did SOMETHING to contribute.
ALso, reading the letters, you could TELL the parents would have let him slide if he did SOMETHING to contribute.
That's assuming they have any property or savings after supporting their adult children for multiple years long after they are legally required. More and more people have to downsize to fund their retirement. Continuing to support a child past age 18 significantly affects their retirement possibilities. Providing a better life for their kids does not mean sacrificing a retirement for themselves.
Different circumstances for everybody. If parents are willing and wealthy enough to support their kids past age 18, they can do so, but they are not legally required to do so. I think it's extremely selfish and entitled for kids to expect their parents to sacrifice their lifestyle so that they can leech off them.
People in this Thread assume he is happy to be alive when they say he should give their parents the freedom and let them enjoy their golden days.
What if he actually doesn't?
What if he wants to make them pay for putting him into this world?
Maybe he doesn't see the fun in working 40-60 hours to survive just because his parents decided to have kids.
I dont want kids for that reason
I'm what most would consider a bad person but i think it is actual punishment to put kids into the world if you can't provide them with a loaded bank account so they can enjoy their time on
this planet without a single day of working especially if they would need to do it to survive.
Not everyone will be multimillionaire or billionaire so the saying "just get better education or work for it" won't work either because then we all would be loaded and wouldn't talk about how the rich get richer and the poor have it even harder.
Even doctors and stuff still need to work until they are too old to enjoy their life.
Zuckerberg-rich is what i consider fun and i would have loved to be born into such a bank account instead of putting milestones at everything and thinking about how i will afford that and that if i save up enough for that period of time while busting my ass off.
But then i've seen he has a kid.
If he would think that way he wouldn't have let it go that far.
He is just a jerk.
What if he actually doesn't?
What if he wants to make them pay for putting him into this world?
Maybe he doesn't see the fun in working 40-60 hours to survive just because his parents decided to have kids.
I dont want kids for that reason
I'm what most would consider a bad person but i think it is actual punishment to put kids into the world if you can't provide them with a loaded bank account so they can enjoy their time on
this planet without a single day of working especially if they would need to do it to survive.
Not everyone will be multimillionaire or billionaire so the saying "just get better education or work for it" won't work either because then we all would be loaded and wouldn't talk about how the rich get richer and the poor have it even harder.
Even doctors and stuff still need to work until they are too old to enjoy their life.
Zuckerberg-rich is what i consider fun and i would have loved to be born into such a bank account instead of putting milestones at everything and thinking about how i will afford that and that if i save up enough for that period of time while busting my ass off.
But then i've seen he has a kid.
If he would think that way he wouldn't have let it go that far.
He is just a jerk.
Ok, I guess different points of view. Evidently it's different family values for different countries
But also I don't understand how having a son at home affects their retirement, I mean they are retired (they wanna go on vacation, they can, they wanna do more hobbies they can anyway). Also it's not the children that expect their parents to support them; it's the parents themselves that expect the children to inherit their possessions after dying and hoping they will have a better life. I mean why even having children if you are gonna treat like strangers after 18?
Having a son is a life time commitment not a business contract that lasts only 18 years, and is done so that you will have heirs that hopefully will have a better life, remember you regularly after death (with happy memories made during their whole lives) and so on and hopefully won't send you to a nursing home dying alone but rather surrounded by your family (near loved ones even if it means sacrificing work opportunities or financial stability) or by a full time nurse (one of the good ones) even it it means sacrificing half of their salaries when you are too old to take care of yourself or to do shopping alone. And possibly they won't send you to to a nursing home or burying you in a common grave without a funeral. I can't see how I would remember happily of a parent that let me swallow in debt just because he couldn't stand a 25 years old in their home for a few years more; you can be sure that I won't worry about him when he is old if he was so selfish that he couldn't stand his own son for a few years rent-free.
But ok, I guess. Different values, different countries. It was interesting to see another country's perspective.
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Also, completely off topic, who is the host? She's gorgeous. And did I hear laughter when that guy was talking?
Anyway, as a parent, I worry about things like this for my son but not the situation that's described in the OP. My son can live in my house as long as he's pulling his weight and he does that now and he's not even a teenager. I'm hoping that my wife and I are cultivating and nuturing a strong work ethic in him so that something like this would never happen.
With that said, I'm pretty dead set about my son staying with us until after he's finished with college, only because I don't want him to be jammed with debt for the rest of his life because what colleges charge for room and board is obscene. We have a lot of local schools where I live that he could commute to and still live comfortably at home so his only focus would be his studies and a part time job.
Went to school aged 18 and never went back home to live since. Couldn't imagine doing that! Love my family and see them for holidays and such, but I had to get out of my smallish town.
You can't take this or any stereotype personally. He just fits the stereotype to the T, unfortunately.
I think she helped make it awkward by her lack of professionalism. Bringing up a guy who probably has social anxiety issues and is on an interview with a major news outlet drinking water is tacky and rather pathetic. There's a reason this wasn't a live interview, the guy isn't some camera friendly person so she looks incredibly rude and arrogant here if anything. The interviewer did something wrong when they are the ones being talked about here and not the interviewee. She looked very poor here IMHO, looked completely out of touch with anything the guy said and had her mind made up heading into this by reading the headline alone. The guy was fumbling through words and she just had obnoxious facial expressions knowing this interview was going to be put out to the public. Absolutely unprofessional.
Anyway, I think the guy is used to a certain lifestyle and the potential uncertainty of having to venture to the unknown is what scares the guy. I saw this with my older brother who was unemployed and stood home playing video games for much of the day. I used to judge him and get on him for not contributing but over time, I started to see this mindset and see why he became what he was. Add some personal issues we dealt with and I can see that there's a social anxiety problem. I am 28 and live with my grandmother but I work and contribute to the house by giving half of my paycheck to cover electricity, water, food, etc. I know the house I live will be mine(Not for a long time hope to god) so why move out? Why is it deemed that you must move out, because it's not normal? Who is to deem what is normal and what isn't?
It's the same nonsense for giving someone who doesn't lose their virginity for a while. It's a stigma created by the media and what is popular/what isn't.
God I hope not, for my parents sake. They worked hard their entire life and they've already sacrificed so much of their time/opportunities for me and our family. I honestly hope one day they will at least down size so they can have a bit extra money in hand or at least take a luxurious vacation. They deserved it.
I don't need anything from them, but the thoughtfulness is nice. Obviously this is all dependent on how much I can make. I'm by no means rich, I'm actually quite low on the wage ladder, but it's enough to survive and save with frugal life choices.
I'm Asian, and I have really disliked watching my parents sacrifice so much of their opportunities to happiness to ensure that I have a better life, because it's their "duty" as parents (cultural). They are people too, and I want them to have the opportunities to pursue happiness the same as they want for me. To me, if they think about me all the time, or whether they can pass down something to me, that will detract from their ability to freely make choices for their own happiness. As an adult, I want my parents to pursue their interests (sadly, they didn't have enough time to develop much of one because they were so consumed by either jobs (providing for the family) and making sure I had the necessary tools to develop).
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Ummm... wow. That's total bullshit. The lady was interviewing a dude who had to be dragged to court by his PARENTS so he would stop squatting. But the CNN anchor is unprofessional? Did you see the ABC 7 news report? It showed some of the stuff the guy said in court like "They don't provide food for me, so I don't see why I should have to leave". Come on. It wasn't like she was ambushing some 12 year old on national TV, this dude is 30 years old and has a kid for fuck's sake.
"How would you respond to the people calling your generation, Millenials, entitled?"
"I think the entitled ones are the libruls. I am a trueblood conservative, so it really doesn't apply." *proceeds to go to parent's home feeling entitled to more than 8yrs of free food and shelter*
"I think the entitled ones are the libruls. I am a trueblood conservative, so it really doesn't apply." *proceeds to go to parent's home feeling entitled to more than 8yrs of free food and shelter*
Brooke Baldwin came off condescending to the guy and brought up questions about a perceived mindset of assuming that everybody wants to move out ASAP like that's some formality. Not everybody is the same or thinks the same. To have that lack of understanding when conducting an interview and to only accept one way of a lifestyle is borderline ignorant.
She brought up questions that had no relevance to the situation like "Don't you want to move out, most people do that ya know!!!!" like it's some formality. The guy was nervous in this interview, he sipped a gulp of water, what's wrong with that? Why was that even relevant to bring up?
Why do you assume children are treated like strangers after 18 if they expected to be independent at that age? I can't think of one single anecdotal example where that has happened.