By saying they should limit the women in the game to a specific faction for the sake of historical accuracy is quite literally taking women out.
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Battlefield V - Reveal trailer - October 19th
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By saying they should limit the women in the game to a specific faction for the sake of historical accuracy is quite literally taking women out.
Battlefield has never strived toward realism in any of their games. They've always taken the setting and period and just made arcade over-the-top action games with them, so not sure why some people think this is unexpected that this game is still the same over-the-top action as before.
Also for those saying it's authentic.....no it isn't, and it never really was. They have no problems using uniforms that aren't correct, wrong equipment, things that don't belong, etc. I really wish people would stop saying this series was authentic because it never was in any of their games.
Personally, I do wish they'd give us a more hardcore out of the box experience when it comes to servers and gameplay options, have servers with no huds/maps, increased dmg (so smg's >everything else like in most of the games).
Also I really hope they tone down the stupid "shooting while sliding" shit that was shown in the trailer, it not only looks absurd but you know EVERYONE will do it, just like with BF2 and it's stupid dolphin diving crap that helped ruin it imo. That kind of thing needs to have consequences. When you slide you shouldn't be able to shoot while sliding, and when the slide is over it should take a moment to aim and give you a short duration penalty to aiming so you can't slide and then immediately have pin-point accuracy with your weapon.
Overall I'm excited, especially with the return of more destructible environments and the new engineer style building, looking forward to seeing the actual gameplay in a few weeks.
Also for those saying it's authentic.....no it isn't, and it never really was. They have no problems using uniforms that aren't correct, wrong equipment, things that don't belong, etc. I really wish people would stop saying this series was authentic because it never was in any of their games.
Personally, I do wish they'd give us a more hardcore out of the box experience when it comes to servers and gameplay options, have servers with no huds/maps, increased dmg (so smg's >everything else like in most of the games).
Also I really hope they tone down the stupid "shooting while sliding" shit that was shown in the trailer, it not only looks absurd but you know EVERYONE will do it, just like with BF2 and it's stupid dolphin diving crap that helped ruin it imo. That kind of thing needs to have consequences. When you slide you shouldn't be able to shoot while sliding, and when the slide is over it should take a moment to aim and give you a short duration penalty to aiming so you can't slide and then immediately have pin-point accuracy with your weapon.
Overall I'm excited, especially with the return of more destructible environments and the new engineer style building, looking forward to seeing the actual gameplay in a few weeks.
fuck the historical accuracy bullshit, I want to shoot people as a woman with a Thompson and revel in the tears
I fucking hate the wider gaming community. There's an actual #NotMyBattlefield hashtag doing the rounds. Multiple mentions of SJW, Feminism etc. It's times like this you realise the hobby you adore is full of bottom dwelling pond scum.
Fuck off.
Fuck off.
The ww2 is one of the most important part of human history because of that it has and will be interpreted in many. For every dunkrik there will be a Inglorious Bastards
You guys remember how historically accurate and authentic 1942 was that it only allowed U.S Engineer kit to use the M1 Garand? Whatever happened to the realism in my Battlefield games?
Huh?... I don't even know how to respond to this.
You could feature an Eastern European women in a leading role in the campaign. What is the issue? You could make brilliant commentary with this even.
I hate the idea of revisionist media that has to make everything politically correct for future generations. Maybe people should understand how it was then?
Same, getting heavy BC vibes. Hope that it not just a feeling.
It doesn't even make any sense.
Heck others have already posted that not just Russian women fought in WWII, not to mention thatpicture of real life soldiers applying the same "God of War face paint".
So his whole "I love history a great deal" thing falls through since he's riling against things that were actually based on historical facts. :-/
Amen. Such a sad fucking state of affairs.
There have been..... so many. SO_MANY_ World War II games about the same shit you've seen since Saving Private Ryan and Band of Brothers. The genre has been fucking wrung dry. The very second someone tries to do something different in this space everyone throws a temper tantrum about MUH HISTORICAL ACCURACY.
Why shouldn't women be playable from all factions during the multiplayer? Why only limit it to a certain faction?
I think this trailer looks super good!
I like how DICE makes the war beautiful.
I hope it's both fun to play and fun to watch.
I like how DICE makes the war beautiful.
I hope it's both fun to play and fun to watch.
A lot of people weren't happy about that either. I'm glad that the elite classes are not in V because they really weren't fun to fight against, especially the one with the double magazine SMG.No it's not, this is how BF1 portrayed WW1, literal knights in armor capable of blocking sniper bullets carrying light machine guns firing at enemies riding horses:
This fanart is closer to what I would have liked to see them go for while also having female combatants
Ask them about the time their squadmates magically teleported on his position, or how they used a syringe to bring a fallen soldier back to life.
Case in point, the Battlefield series is renowned for its laughably wacky and over the top sandbox set pieces and "immersion" breaking mechanics. If you're coming for a history lesson then you should have been disappointed a long time ago.
I have to be completely honest I did not play BF1 aside from the beta for a half hour or so. I did not notice anything quite as glaringly obvious out of place in that game in terms of aesthetics. The last one I played was BF4 with BF1942 and 2 being my favorites.
Okay, great. Well done. So you know what it is.
Why are we talking about it again like a loose gear?
Let's get some thing about of the way so we can progress.
"OMG Historical Accuracy!"
"OMG Woman!"
"OMG Bionic!"
"OMG Color!"
"OMG Fortnite!"
"OMG Facepaint!"
Agreed.
Yes, I agree.
I understand that what we saw was [hopefully] multiplayer, so historical accuracy can be bent as needed so that everyone can have a good time customizing their character to participate in the fray the way they want to; however for World War II buffs, it's a disappointment that things like the blue face painted, tank top wearing dude will be running around the battlefield and breaking the immersion of something that could have been more enjoyable for history lovers without it.
To each their own, I suppose.
DICE/EA should show something from the campaign soon to quell the fire from this reveal trailer, simply to let all the history buffs know that there is a mode for them too.
Off topic but as i read your post in my head, i said fun to play and watch in the voice of the smash announcer saying Mr. Game & Watch.
It's also not like the series multiplayer really features any specific squad or battalion. For all we know, the women and men could be from the 34th Unicorn Division. It's a video game. Let's represent some others for a change.
Nah, people were incredibly hyped when it came to those trailers and BF1's marketing in general. A huge portion he gaming community is willing to forgive so much shit in their shooters if it looks badass, EXCEPT for women and PoC.
This looks like terrible and the reveal trailer was bland with 'in-engine' footage that never looked like that in the actual game. I just can't be bothered to get hyped for a World War 2 game again. I feel like the Battlefield formula is becoming stale rather quickly. Last two good games were Battlefield 3 and 4.
The dislikes on the trailer though, seems like a lot of people have 'certain' issues with the trailer for some reason. In my case, I just can't muster the excitement of another Battlefield game and the trailer did nothing to assure me that it will be a good one. I am not that excited for Black Ops 4 but atleast I find it more exciting than BF5 since they are trying something new this time.
The good news though is that there is no season pass so once it goes in EA Access, I might give it a chance.
The dislikes on the trailer though, seems like a lot of people have 'certain' issues with the trailer for some reason. In my case, I just can't muster the excitement of another Battlefield game and the trailer did nothing to assure me that it will be a good one. I am not that excited for Black Ops 4 but atleast I find it more exciting than BF5 since they are trying something new this time.
The good news though is that there is no season pass so once it goes in EA Access, I might give it a chance.
If they wanted to make a Bad company (which I loved don't get me wrong) they should have just titled it that we'll see though, it might not seem as jumbled upon further footage, that was sensory overload and not in a good way
Well funny you say that! Because from what's been reported, one of the single player campaigns is about a women in the French resistance! Weird right? They did both!
But it doesn't matter. You trying to call this "revisionist history" is so mind boggling. When have they ever said they were trying to be historically accurate? If you want to 'understand how it was then' go play any of the other seven dozen video games about the same damned thing. This isn't posing as an accurate portrayal of World War II and your spite against it for not being the thing it is specifically trying to not be is so ludicrous.
I think this is misinterpreting the difference between authenticity and accuracy again. There are things that weren't used in that capacity during WW1 which are included in BF1, yes, but they are still authentic to the setting as a whole in the way they're portrayed. They existed at the time, have relevance to WW1 as a setting but more importantly, they aren't something out of place with the aims of the setting and have gameplay reasons for being like that. Something like the Hellriegel being in BF1 despite being a prototype weapon still fits in with the WW1 theme as that in itself does not make it contrast the look, feel or tone of the setting - it still feels like it's something that plausibly could be there and isn't something obviously apparent as not being right.
It's a different case to have a Katana on the Western Front or that jacket seen in the trailer. While they existed, and obviously have relevance to the war, they lack the gameplay justification that leads to that usual suspension of disbelief with weapon or equipment usage in other games. They're something more apparent at being at odds with the atmosphere of a serious WW2 setting within that context. If it was the Pacific theatre then a Katana would fit - but in the context given here by the trailer, it's simply detrimental to realizing that setting in a serious manner.
It's more to do with the extent of it, really. In Battlefield 4 you could customize your soldiers camouflage and use something that didn't make the slightest bit of sense in that context, but it wasn't something that was noticeable to a significant degree. It was a similar case with weapons being used by armies that wouldn't use them, or prototype equipment - it wasn't an issue there because it still fit the overall feel and tone. It being cosmetic in this case is part of what makes it stand out too much, as it goes from "It's doesn't quite fit because of the gameplay" to "It just doesn't fit" in a more apparent way. Customization is perfectly fine, but when it's done to this level where it's so noticeable with it being something that doesn't make much sense, it makes the setting a lot less defined and takes away from it.
What are you talking about?
Plenty of things in the games don't fit the specific situations seen in the games, but that doesn't change that the way those things are is still authentic to the setting as a whole and the idea of realizing a specific theme even if it isn't done in a realistic manner - e.g. the modern day settings had weapons that fit within a modern day theme without too much difficulty, something simply existing wasn't enough for it to feel like it fit in. Things like the prevelance of certain weapons is a gameplay concession, anyway.
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Why are you mad at me for pointing out that a prosthetic arm can be considered bionic? Chill dude
If they want to go for Historical accuracy, tell another story. WWII has been retold in so many mediums, it starting to get stale, even though it hasnt been a game based on it for about 10 years.
Sure its some unsung heros and untold stories from that era,but what more can be done on a large scope.
Either move on to another war/era, or mix it up and make in interesting
Sure its some unsung heros and untold stories from that era,but what more can be done on a large scope.
Either move on to another war/era, or mix it up and make in interesting
Seems like my questions went un-answered and things are getting quite nuts in here so I'll step out.
Before go, I'll say I like this Bad Company-esque vibe to this game. I'm still not fond of returning to WW2 strictly for gameplay purposes but I'll hold off judgment until E3.
Before go, I'll say I like this Bad Company-esque vibe to this game. I'm still not fond of returning to WW2 strictly for gameplay purposes but I'll hold off judgment until E3.
The DLC will have a mode where you spend your time writing letters home and slowly dying from your wounds.
True. Well, see you all at the next reveal since this thread is stuck in loop.
Imagine that... People other than white dudes interested in video games?
BF1 lets you apply a custom emblem to your uniform/gun. I have seen weed plants, South Park characters, female orifices, etc.
Battlefield has never been the historically accurate series you think it has.