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Hasney

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100 reviews culminating on the most worthy game. I an only assume Sonic Forces was 5/5 and there's no reason to watch it.
 

Servbot24

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Nintendo definitely needs to at least announce Smash next year to keep the Switch zeitgeist going. The time is now, Nintendo!
 

Elfforkusu

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There are a couple reasons I think it's a lock, but the simplest is: their paid online strategy makes no sense if Smash isn't imminent. They don't have enough online franchises to not have all hands on deck from the start.
 

Hasney

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There are a couple reasons I think it's a lock, but the simplest is: their paid online strategy makes no sense if Smash isn't imminent. They don't have enough online franchises to not have all hands on deck from the start.

Unless they have an MMO in the works!

...

Yeah, your version is more likely.
 

Umibozu

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Oct 25, 2017
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Smash announcement should be delayed and should not be a port.
Online service will have the virtual console
(virtual boy)
everyone keeps clamoring for, lol.
 

Hasney

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A port would just be bizarre. It's crazy to me that fans are even entertaining that idea.

It takes 3-4 years to make Smash and Sakurai likes his breaks from the game. Farming a port out to BandaiNamco as rumoured and then get another Smash down the line isn't the worst idea in the world.
 
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port absolutely makes sense. cheap, easy to make, and heaps of people havent played it. i think they should turn it into a service where they just add new characters and stages and modes as opposed to making a completely 'new' game every 5 years or whatever.
 

Hasney

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port absolutely makes sense. cheap, easy to make, and heaps of people havent played it. i think they should turn it into a service where they just add new characters and stages and modes as opposed to making a completely 'new' game every 5 years or whatever.

Yeah, bring the 3DS and Wii U modes together, throw another mode in and call it a day. Maybe maps and characters if they want to make it a platform for the Switches life, or just slap it on the system and make a new one later.
 

Servbot24

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I'm not gonna encourage Nintendo to cheap out, I'm not a stockholder. :P I already played Smash 4, it's gonna be 6 years later and it's time for Smash 5.
 

Hasney

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Oct 25, 2017
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All I'm saying is that if it's not ready yet, give me a port of Smash Wii U and dont make me wait. If it's ready for a new one, then bring it out of course!
 

ThanksVision

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I'll have Smash 4 on Switch with more characters and stages if that's what it takes for it to be out next year. Tbh I don't really know what else I would want from Smash after 4... Though I'm not very competitive, more into it for the social/party game aspect.
 

Elfforkusu

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port absolutely makes sense. cheap, easy to make, and heaps of people havent played it. i think they should turn it into a service where they just add new characters and stages and modes as opposed to making a completely 'new' game every 5 years or whatever.
Right. If a MK8 port makes sense, and by sales it clearly did, a Smash 4 port is slam-dunk obvious. It's already out on 2 platforms, why not 3? The current "definitive" version -- which isn't even really definitive, since the 3DS version has the best single player mode -- is for a console nobody owns. For all the talk about how it's a shame that DKTF/Mario Maker/Bayonetta 2/etc are stranded on the Wii U, it'd be a travesty if Smash 4 of all games was left to languish on that system.

And then there's this:
It takes 3-4 years to make Smash and Sakurai likes his breaks from the game. Farming a port out to BandaiNamco as rumoured and then get another Smash down the line isn't the worst idea in the world.
Let Sakurai have a holiday you monster :( and I don't want a Smash without him... Yet.

This should be the Smash where he's involved, but he starts handing it over.
More specifically, Sakurai literally almost kills himself from overwork every time he makes a Smash, and usually swears off ever making another one again. Given his age, a Sakurai-led Smash 5 may simply never happen. Which, tbh, I'd be fine with. 4 and Melee are both timeless in their own way, IMO. (Melee HD would be my dream followup to a Smash 4 Switch)
 

LiquidSolid

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I'm not gonna encourage Nintendo to cheap out, I'm not a stockholder. :P I already played Smash 4, it's gonna be 6 years later and it's time for Smash 5.
I think the key is that most people didn't even buy a Wii U, let alone Smash 4 for it (I know there's the 3DS version too but I don't think it's suited to that system), so it makes sense for NIntendo to bring it back now that they don't have a system that actively sabotages their software sales.
 

Holundrian

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Oct 25, 2017
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Red Eagles are like Ultima Brad. Someone has to take them down.

Also wow 100 reviews in a bit less than 2 years of existence that's pretty insane.
 

TheDarkKnight

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just finished another great D&D patron session. So much fun! This is my first time really playing serious D&D in forever. The group is great and it's such a ton of fun
 

dickroach

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Oct 25, 2017
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A port would just be bizarre. It's crazy to me that fans are even entertaining that idea.
if Mario Kart 8 DX wasn't a thing I'd totally agree with you.
like, it'd been three years. they should have had Mario Kart 9 ready, but no, they released a port with two new things and it sold really really well.
Smash 4 DX is happening
 

Servbot24

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Oct 25, 2017
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MK8 made sense to fill out the launch schedule, if Smash 4 DX came out at that time it would have made more sense too. 1.5 years later though I'm going to be past launch padding games
 

Umibozu

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Oct 25, 2017
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The leak that stated smash 4 port would happen also stated splatoon would be a port of the first, Mario at launch, Zelda not at launch, etc.
I mean we could still get a smash4 port, but not a certainty.
 

Servbot24

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Btw when I say I want Smash 5, it can still use the Smash 4 engine. That game was basically perfect as a middle ground Smash game, so iterating on that is fine. It should just have a very substantial amount of new content and graphic updates.
 

Xenoboy

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What happened with the GoG streams? They just stopped happening, and I don't remember if there was an explanation. I really like them, especially because it was mostly half of them so it wasn't as hectic as the group streams
 

Bloodworth

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What happened with the GoG streams? They just stopped happening, and I don't remember if there was an explanation. I really like them, especially because it was mostly half of them so it wasn't as hectic as the group streams
It was part of a partnership deal, and it just wasn't working out for a number of reasons.
 

FUNKNOWN iXi

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Btw when I say I want Smash 5, it can still use the Smash 4 engine. That game was basically perfect as a middle ground Smash game, so iterating on that is fine. It should just have a very substantial amount of new content and graphic updates.
I don't think Smash 4's gameplay can hold a candle to 64 and Melee, so that's why I don't personally care for a port despite it making sense financially.

Controversial opinion I guess: I hope they go back to basics and make significant changes to the game. No auto ledge snaps, bring back knocking enemies off platforms while they're shielding, include landing lag cancels, more hitstun, single use air dodge (although I'd prefer removing dodges in general), etc.

Smash 4 is a great package with the best character selection in the series (stage selection needs improvements), but if the gameplay doesn't feel right then it doesn't matter much.
 

Hasney

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Btw when I say I want Smash 5, it can still use the Smash 4 engine. That game was basically perfect as a middle ground Smash game, so iterating on that is fine. It should just have a very substantial amount of new content and graphic updates.

Yeah, Smash 4 is my favourite for sure. If they kept that gameplay but changed the dressing, I guess I wouldn't mind too much.
 

Elfforkusu

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I don't think Smash 4's gameplay can hold a candle to 64 and Melee, so that's why I don't personally care for a port despite it making sense financially.

Controversial opinion I guess: I hope they go back to basics and make significant changes to the game. No auto ledge snaps, bring back knocking enemies off platforms while they're shielding, include landing lag cancels, more hitstun, single use air dodge (although I'd prefer removing dodges in general), etc.

Smash 4 is a great package with the best character selection in the series (stage selection needs improvements), but if the gameplay doesn't feel right then it doesn't matter much.
I understand people feel this way, and -- while I disagree -- I think it's the simplest argument for making Melee HD as the next Smash release (post the port/definitive version of 4). Call it Smash Classic or whatever.

At this point, Smash is a big enough franchise to support two versions at once. And the competitive scene for Melee is freaking legit, so Nintendo should lean into that. Better late than never

Btw when I say I want Smash 5, it can still use the Smash 4 engine. That game was basically perfect as a middle ground Smash game, so iterating on that is fine. It should just have a very substantial amount of new content and graphic updates.
Seems like that's still Smash 4 no matter how we slice it, though? I guess they could call it "Smash 5" if they want, but "Smash 4 Switch" is a the right name for that game IMO. (In particular because they will just call it "Super Smash Bros for Switch")
 

Servbot24

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Seems like that's still Smash 4 no matter how we slice it, though? I guess they could call it "Smash 5" if they want, but "Smash 4 Switch" is a the right name for that game IMO. (In particular because they will just call it "Super Smash Bros for Switch")
I mean Call of Duty isn't "Call of Duty Remastered: Advanced Warfare Edition" every year. I don't think most series have a new engine for every single game
 

abrack

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Oct 25, 2017
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I want Smash 5 rather than a port because I want the full Smash hype cycle. The slow trickle of included/excluded characters, new stages, new model, etc. It's not nearly as exciting if we know 95% of the content for sure off the bat. I'm still hoping for better single player modes and I feel like that's less likely to be included in a port.
 

Elfforkusu

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I mean Call of Duty isn't "Call of Duty Remastered: Advanced Warfare Edition" every year. I don't think most series have a new engine for every single game
Smash games do, though. (e: disclaimer: I'm not familiar with the 64 -> Melee transition enough to know if it was a full rewrite or if there was some carry over)

Though I suppose it's possible -- maybe even probable -- that 4 will be the last version of the engine for a long time. If they go that direction (Sakurai handing off the series, for example), calling it "5" wouldn't be that shocking.

I want Smash 5 rather than a port because I want the full Smash hype cycle. The slow trickle of included/excluded characters, new stages, new model, etc. It's not nearly as exciting if we know 95% of the content for sure off the bat. I'm still hoping for better single player modes and I feel like that's less likely to be included in a port.
tbh, I don't want Smash 5 yet, because Smash 4 deserves better than it got.

Agreed on better single player modes, but I wouldn't be shocked if something of that made it into a Smash 4 Switch. The 3DS version already a has better single player mode (Smash Run) than anything in the Wii U release.
 
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