He could also stop wearing Nazi band shirts. All those weird coincidences...
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Daniel Vavra (Kingdom Come Deliverance) cancels his visit to Gamelab; Spanish development conference
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The age old, if it looks like a duck, moves like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a friggin Nazi duck.
The fact that his only defence to being called racist/nazi is "I have ancestors who were in the holocaust" instead of saying something clear and simple like "I support the equality of all people regardless of gender or race and abhor the views of the alt-right" is hilarious.
Such a child.
Such a child.
A behaviour that can be characterized as harassment is not acceptable, no matter the person that it's applied to - even if that may be hard to accept at times.
If you do view this behaviour as such ( it is not by any means always clear, as we have clearly seen in this forum and on others ) then I believe you shouldn't celebrate it, no matter who it is at the reveiving end .
If you do view this behaviour as such ( it is not by any means always clear, as we have clearly seen in this forum and on others ) then I believe you shouldn't celebrate it, no matter who it is at the reveiving end .
Who is we?
There is no evidence that harassment took place. Not is there evidence that anybody here insulted him directly.
Moreover, insults is neither here nor there vis a vis Trump supporters. Everyone does it, but in many cases it isn't even that, ultimately what these people view as an insult is when people describe them accurately based on a clear pattern of behaviour.
The seeming hypocrisy of his actions is worth noting, and making snide comments about it, doesn't lower them to Trump supporter levels.
I didn't move the goalposts. I literally used the word "harassment" in the post you quoted.
I know metalfans who wear burzum shirts that strongly oppose nazism. Vavra probably isn't one of them and the shirt may be tasteless in many people opinions but it doesn't say much about your political views. It depends if you can seperate art from the artist and the burzum singer didn't include his fucked up worldview into his music.
I too, know of nazis who claim not to be nazis, they do that a lot, you're gonna need a better fuckin' argument than "well they're only *wearing* nazi paraphernalia...."
Well you can believe it or not, there are persons who own Burzum and many other Metal Shirts and hear the non-political music and are not Neo-Nazis or even political right. And thats not even an argument for Vavra, it could be if it was the only thing he did.
You know, one of the good things about JonTron going full racist the way he did is that at least we don't have to hear any arguments about "but like.. he can't be racist towards immigrants though, his parents were immigrants!"
I'm just saying, people are too readily convinced by nazis who scream "we're not nazis we just [do x thing nazis do]" to the point where any argument that remotely sounds like that is suspect.
You're free to believe whatever you want to believe, including people who, of their own volition, have to convince you they're not nazis.
This is the truth. Unfortunately, that's this whole thread and many others on this forum.
Burzum shirts aren't nazi paraphernalia, though. RPGamer is correct, if it were only the shirt it'd mean absolutely nothing, but from him, he gets no benefit of doubt.
I don't see how they would be bought up in this context if they weren't, because boy, if they aren't nazi shirts they would be irrelevant to this entire discussion. (And that isn't me offering a viewpoint on whether or not they're nazi shirts. Just that if they aren't they're not worth discussing and have no reason to be bought up. The fact that they were bought up at all in this context is why I responded the way they did.)
Yeah I definitely believe there are people like this - I listen to artists with whom I don't agree with too. Just in Varva's case it's pretty much unsurprising. Another piece of right wing related thing he likes to have around him.
I listen to metal myself so I know you don't wear a shirt of Burzum without that stigma.
No it's not. There are over 500 replies which dictate the opposite. I am absolutely sick of these lazy arguments, painting everyone's opinion as the same on here.
If you don't like how the forum is run, have issues with moderation, or specific issues with a particular user, you know what to do.
It's impressive really. There's no racist peak too high for white people.
And i say this as someone with a white friend.
This is really funny and I can't believe I haven't seen it before.
This is next level rhetoric that I am almost rendered speechless by.
I can only praise it.
I had this exact same thought. When you can't point to anything that you have done, or anything about your character, in defense of such a charge, but you can only talk about something that was done to people you are descended from... That's not a great look. It's not that different to saying 'I can't be racist. My grandad dated a black woman and he got beaten up for it.'
It's a shirt of a one-man band, whose sole member, Varg, is openly a white supremacist, and is rather infamous for being a convicted murderer. A lot of people enjoy the band regardless of the guy behind it (he doesn't sing about those views in his songs). So, a random person wearing a Burzum shirt is probably not a neo-nazi and they probably just don't care about Varg and enjoy Burzum's music. But, from a guy like Vávra, it's impossible to not make the connection to Varg. So that's why it's brought up.
Oh, I am Czech. I know where the Czech Republic is located and I know the history, too.
Still, you deflected my advice to Vavra to be a better man. If hates communists and nazis, too, maybe he should stop calling everyone "western commies". But he is hypocrite.
Right after Mafia his success went into his mind (maybe even before) and I remember his articles in LEVEL, lol. That guy did not like anything what he were not doing (which was basically everything).
Vavra cleaned up his Facebook from posts regarding climate change denial and toned down his hate machine pretty well before release of the game.
But you can still see (read) normal pattern of every alt-right:
Vavra: "I hate totality and censorship!"
Putin is putting in jail his opponent - Vavra is silent.
EU wants to ban hate speech - Vavra wants a revolution against communists in EU.
Vavra: "People with different opinions should speak freely!"
Czech television let analysts speaks about Hungarian election - Vavra rages about political television and wants to ban the discussion.
People give him proofs of his behaviour - Vavra claims it was joke or it is misinterpreted.
It is tiresome. He is snowflake and cannot look truth in the eyes.
Ohh okay you got me there, zdravim mimochodem : )
Basically I agree, but since our Slav favorite past time, to get drunk as much as possible got me yesterday really hard and I am looking half an hour on this text and do not know how to respond, so when this state goes away, I will respond like a normal human being, if that's not an issue. Thanks in advance for understanding.
Am I supposed to be disgusted that a character who watched his family and friends get raped and butchered by foreign invaders speaks ill of them?
What kind of nonsense is this?
Why is it that people who support horrible shit are always the weakest when confronted on their views.
Because they know their views are complete trash but they surround themselves with people who never question them so they can keep feeling superior even though a child could win an argument against them. It would be hilarious if it wasn't so dangerous at the same time.
Again, go ahead and try and reason with Vavra, try to educate him and please report back. I am really curious about the outcome. Have you had any previous success with coddling and reforming extremists?
Being called racist when you ARE a racist isn't harassment.
He could alternatively try not being a terrible person. Then we could appropriately cluck our tongues and wag fingers at social media for being mean to the guy that subscribes to a movement about sending death threats to zoe quinn and thinks a pizza place harbored a child sex ring.
He could alternatively try not being a terrible person. Then we could appropriately cluck our tongues and wag fingers at social media for being mean to the guy that subscribes to a movement about sending death threats to zoe quinn and thinks a pizza place harbored a child sex ring.
They want to have their cake and eat it too. It's that simple.
Gamergate brought many awful things, but also brought to the table some kind of catharsis in the English speaking game journalism, a realization that something very fucked up was going on in this hobby.
This catharsis totally skipped our own game journalism.
If I had to guess I'd say the catharsis was really just English gaming journalism, speaking from a French perspective the toxic gaming community is being weaponized by populist candidates trying to get a following.
The people that would be able to do anything about it won't do anything because they like the money way too much.
Gaming journalism has never been a forte for the French press, I don't know if anyone take them seriously but I certainly don't think they should.
If you want actual journalism, you kind of have to go for either PC centric magazines or professional computer related stuffs like 01Net or something.
This is the woman who did It...and she works for EDGE Spain.
She is the nazi
Wonder if she'll be fired?
This is the woman who did It...and she works for EDGE Spain.
She is the nazi
Is a joke, buzzfeed Lola is a YouTube feminist channel and she claims that's her work outfit.
Is your man's pride so hurt that she's a "nazi" for that? You want to say that she's a "feminazi", right?
But men are trash though.This is the woman who did It...and she works for EDGE Spain.
She is the nazi
Anyone else think it's ridiculous that people keep saying that it's dangerous to call people nazis (despite sharing ideals) as it dilutes the word, yet these same people are fine with calling women feminazis?
Nah, he didn't call her a feminazi, he called her a nazi
Irony is dead
You joke but I am genuinely beginning to wonder....what is it about guys like him that they are so quick to grab on to this ideology, and ideology that generations ago was fought back and declared unfit for the world that these guys latch onto so quick. What hardship or struggle have they faced that they feel the need to "fight back" against? Shit don't make any sense.
Making a general point that I don't see any of these users going into threads about the "worrying" trend of diluting the word nazi when it comes to people using the term feminazi.
Though it will be interesting to see if these same users tell off germuso for his blaze use of it.
That shirt is only is slightly poor taste... due to how people at ToysRus Spain are probaby about to be fired.
For her, it's ok doing this to men, because they are not the víctim...wtf nobody reserve this, women or men.
Even feminists are against her.
https://mobile.twitter.com/azulcorrosivo/status/961292735222370304
Here you are the topic with answers.
That topic is cringeworthy. If there is any good argument against the shirt down there, would you be kind enogh to dig it out? All I see are insults after her replies to Inés.
'When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression.'
Also, racism is ingrained in white people. And i say this as a white person, not even joking right now. I'm originally from Portugal, which is all things considered, a very mild country when it comes to racial violence nowadays, though this certainly wasn't always true. There's still a lot of normalized racism that permeates its social structures, but on an individual level, it's mostly the diet, unconscious kind. From the frequent 'innocent' jokes to the occasional outburst of conscious, obvious racism. I have lived in several European countries by now and the same shit happens everywhere to different degrees. Put a group of only white people together and the chances that something racist will be said grows by the minute. I have literally had people who i'd never think of as bad people before say the vilest shit out of the blue. And i mean shit like 'but black people are inferior' and 'i don't have a problem with black people in Africa but i'd get rid of all those in Europe if i could'. And yes, 'get rid' in that sense. I think most of the mild shit just comes from ignorance because most people don't really think much about anything really. But there's also a lot of irrational hate that i don't really get either.
Humans are fucking weird and downright shit at times.