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killdatninja

Member
Oct 26, 2017
623
I'm going to chime in here as a Best Buy employee, well technically Geek Squad, but whatever. Way at the bottom of the totem pole, nothing remotely official, but hopefully able to add some insight.

1: We didn't know they were killing it either. I literally learned about it from this thread, yay communication.

2: I'm almost 98% sure I know why it's dead: Total Tech Support. It's a new program we started selling last week, but I think this week is when we start actually advertising it. For $200 a year you get free, well almost everything. Geek Squad support for all your computers? Check. Car stereo installations for free? Check. Massively discounted in-home services? Check. Discounts on replacement plans, all sorts of shit. Honestly it's pretty crazy how much the company is giving you for free with this plan.

Here's the thing, they've already stated they plan on losing fuckloads of money because of it. It's a massive loss leader. Basically anything done by Geek Squad is now free if you have it. Having appliances set up is damn near free. Work on your car is either free, or hugely discounted. All of those profits are simply gone, in the hopes people will buy more shit. Geek Squad is basically a pure profit machine, and they are giving that up to hopefully sell more products.

GCU probably never made the company any money, in my experience most people with GCU never actually bought much of anything else. Now with Total Tech Support, they have an even bigger loss leader. They likely realized that having 2 loss leaders like that was a really bad idea, especially if GCU isn't really making them anything. People with GCU don't seem to buy much else, they just want games. People with TTS can buy literally anything in the store and the plan benefits them in some way. There is a lot more long-term profit potential if the plan works (and in the test markets, it has worked very well), meaning that they have no need for using games as a loss leader any longer.

3: the way they've gone about it is complete shit. Not telling existing customers is shitty as Hell. Not even bothering to tell employees, so they find out when suddenly the register won't ring it up, is simply fucking retarded. But I do get why GCU is dead.

I worked at BB for 4 years, when they first started gamer's club (with the @Gamer magazine) and when they switched to GCU (started $120->$60). I've been through various rebranding/changes for services and protection plans... while the TTS sounds like a nice plan, based on experience, the actual launching product will suck and will be fine tuned overtime (i.e. not worth the asking price at launch). Also based on experience with BB, one thing has nothing to do with the other, what does a protection/service plan have anything to do with discounted videogames???
 

thebullfrog

Member
Oct 25, 2017
255
I'm wondering what "test market" was used. I don't doubt you man, but $200 dollars for a year subscription on anything is STEEEEP! It sucks that they are killing GCU because this was my main new game store, but I totally see why if they couldn't get anyone else to buy stuff with games or sell the used games.

Keep in mind, fixing your computer once is $200. Having a remote start put in your car once is like $200. And it doesnt cover one person. Like, you could bring in all your cars, your neighbor's, etc. Theres no limit so far as we can tell. Same with the computer services. We have families come in and get 3-4 computers fixed at a time under the plan. Now someone above was right, most people only come in once a year, but when the cost of a single repair is the same as this plan, that also gets you all sorts of other shit, it makes a lot more sense.

A couple years ago we had a local "computer repair shop" buy a $200 service plan. He brought us all his customer's computers. We found out he was charging people $100 a pop for repairs, and just dumping all the work off on us. Honestly, kinda give the dude props for that one. But we did have to cut him off when they put in a limit of 3 computers per plan. That limit is gone again now. So think of the abuses when local car audio installers get wind of this lol.

The point is, people who have kids going to college, people with large families, etc. the plan is very worthwhile. For an individual, not so much.
 

Smokey_Run

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
4,631
They don't need to. They have a large chunk of the market simply for having stores everywhere, and also being the only retail option for parts of the country.
They've been trying to compete with Amazon and this would provide them with another opportunity and they can eat the cost of such a program better than Best Buy. If Amazon drops the 20% discount, it would leave them with an opportunity to come in and be the only one doing it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
16,287
Cincinnati
I worked at BB for 4 years, when they first started gamer's club (with the @Gamer magazine) and when they switched to GCU (started $120->$60). I've been through various rebranding/changes for services and protection plans... while the TTS sounds like a nice plan, based on experience, the actual launching product will suck and will be fine tuned overtime (i.e. not worth the asking price at launch). Also based on experience with BB, one thing has nothing to do with the other, what does a protection/service plan have anything to do with discounted videogames???

He is saying that the money they are going to lose from the new plan is too large to keep both programs going. At least that is his theory. It's a good one, and quite possibly the reason but it's Best Buy so it could be anything. That company was ass backwards when I worked there.
 

Kirbivore

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,928
People keep bringing up Gamestop. The Gamestop which recently introduced a higher tier rewards program in Elite; which offered 20% off used games instead of 10% but then last week raised the price of top used games to $57.99 from $54.99.
This happened long before Elite
 

MaximusPayne

Member
Dec 14, 2017
877
Keep in mind, fixing your computer once is $200. Having a remote start put in your car once is like $200. And it doesnt cover one person. Like, you could bring in all your cars, your neighbor's, etc. Theres no limit so far as we can tell. Same with the computer services. We have families come in and get 3-4 computers fixed at a time under the plan. Now someone above was right, most people only come in once a year, but when the cost of a single repair is the same as this plan, that also gets you all sorts of other shit, it makes a lot more sense.

A couple years ago we had a local "computer repair shop" buy a $200 service plan. He brought us all his customer's computers. We found out he was charging people $100 a pop for repairs, and just dumping all the work off on us. Honestly, kinda give the dude props for that one. But we did have to cut him off when they put in a limit of 3 computers per plan. That limit is gone again now. So think of the abuses when local car audio installers get wind of this lol.

The point is, people who have kids going to college, people with large families, etc. the plan is very worthwhile. For an individual, not so much.

lol...advertising to get ripped off. Good luck BB. I see kind of where it's coming from. "A family plan. Until we catch you." Should be the slogan for it. ;)
 

Inki

Member
Oct 30, 2017
1,331
Now that I've purchased a PC I don't use it as much as I used to. To be honest I'd prefer they give me some sort of credit if they're going to turn it off. I know they're saying I can continue to use it until it ends but....

"You're a member through
Nov. 2, 2020."
 

KodaRuss

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,858
Texas
I guess I am pretty lucky here. I resubscribed March 29th. So I am in for close to another year. This sucks that the program is ending.
 

Deleted member 22750

Oct 28, 2017
13,267
It really would be amazing if the people who still have gamers club get their full subscription. But obviously that isn't how the world works.

I just don't see people who purchased gamers club buying into their new subscription service given how they handled gamers club and still have not sent anyone any info on it being cancelled.

True story......Best Buy sent me a letter in the mail with their logo hidden and said the name of a security company. It stunk of junk mail. I opened it only to see it is from Best Buy telling me my credit card information and security code was stolen last September. It was so fucking pathetic how they told me about this. Their logo was hidden. It was meant to be hidden.
 

BWoog

Member
Oct 27, 2017
38,280
Not showing for me either. They better give me a fucking refund if they decided to yank it.
 

Darknight

"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,842
Man, I was just in the middle of placing an order when the discount changed during checkout. Bleh.
 

Nelo Ice

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
7,446
Well if this doesn't change then glad I impulse preordered Nintendo games on Amazon with the discount and bought DKC and HW last week.
 

Take5GiantSteps

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,291
Ohio
Wow. Fuck off Best Buy. I'll purchase my games elsewhere for the remainder of my subscription due to this. There's no reason that they deserve another dollar from me.
 

Thoraxes

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,197
Gehenna
Glad I pre-ordered like 15 games the night this happened.

On the other hand, maybe they're changing the system to be only 10% off when they reboot all their shit.
 

Deleted member 3017

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
17,653
Yep, no GCU discount for me either. Might be a glitch caused by their 10% off sale, but these types of things are going to happen all the time now. Best Buy no longer has any incentive to make GCU members happy and I expect plenty of problems with stuff like this in the future, until they just cancel everyone's sub.

Really quite disgusting how they're handling all this.
 

HeeHo

Member
Oct 27, 2017
476
Came here to comment on the lack of 20% discount. I was looking at .hack and Dragons Crown and I was only getting like 5 bucks off.

Sad. Hope it's not permanent. I have only really used GCU for 6 months during a time I was not buying as much.
 

DaveB

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
4,513
New Hampshire, USA
Wow. Fuck off Best Buy. I'll purchase my games elsewhere for the remainder of my subscription due to this. There's no reason that they deserve another dollar from me.
Because forfeiting a 20% discount - costing yourself more money - is a logical retaliation tactic?

Sucks that they're killing it, but I honestly don't understand how it lasted as long as it did. That discount had to seriously cut into their video game software profits. I worked there part-time during a Christmas season about 14 or so years ago, and I remember even with the employee discount of cost + 5%, the price reduction wasn't dramatic.
 

Darknight

"I'd buy that for a dollar!"
Member
Oct 25, 2017
22,842
Even if this is a glitch, let this be a reminder warning to preorder everything now to lock in your pricing. Don't wait. It could disappear at any time if it hasn't already.
 

FinKL

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
2,957
I literally just bought State of Decay 2 [DIGITAL] from Best Buy, no 20% or 10% which is normal.

I did have the physical edition in my cart and it gave me a 20% discount even though it doesn't actively show when browsing. So who knows

EDIT I must of missed this by a minute, everything does seem 10% off, including the digital copy of State of Decay 2. I could of saved $3 lol!
 
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mrmoose

Member
Nov 13, 2017
21,190
Keep in mind, fixing your computer once is $200. Having a remote start put in your car once is like $200. And it doesnt cover one person. Like, you could bring in all your cars, your neighbor's, etc. Theres no limit so far as we can tell. Same with the computer services. We have families come in and get 3-4 computers fixed at a time under the plan. Now someone above was right, most people only come in once a year, but when the cost of a single repair is the same as this plan, that also gets you all sorts of other shit, it makes a lot more sense.

A couple years ago we had a local "computer repair shop" buy a $200 service plan. He brought us all his customer's computers. We found out he was charging people $100 a pop for repairs, and just dumping all the work off on us. Honestly, kinda give the dude props for that one. But we did have to cut him off when they put in a limit of 3 computers per plan. That limit is gone again now. So think of the abuses when local car audio installers get wind of this lol.

The point is, people who have kids going to college, people with large families, etc. the plan is very worthwhile. For an individual, not so much.

So, uh, how are they going to make money off of this? The abusers are going to come out in droves once this gets out. All I need is to know someone with a sub and free installation/setup/whatever? Yeah that's not going to last.
 

mrmoose

Member
Nov 13, 2017
21,190
Wait, there's 10% off digital codes with this glitch/sale? Ok, no tax and 10% off, I'll buy Hyrule Warriors digital. Nintendo DLC, here I come.

While the GCU stuff is frightening, hey, don't look a gift horse in the mouth. :)
 

Darth Smurf X

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,037
Hoth, WI
What is going on?

First Amazon won't list Playstation games or digital PSN cards. Now Best Buy is killing it's Gamer's Club? At least I already had Detroit and Spider-man on preorder with my discount. My membership expires next June... are they refunding us for the remainder or will it remain in effect until then?
 

LiK

Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,099
10% off ain't 20% off. I'd rather wait for a sale for the digital games on PSN/XBL