According to Gamelab's founder's Twitter.
https://twitter.com/ivanfdezlobo/status/998528780623900673?s=19
https://twitter.com/ivanfdezlobo/status/998528780623900673?s=19
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Daniel Vavra (Kingdom Come Deliverance) cancels his visit to Gamelab; Spanish development conference
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Guy has received death threats in the past, really funny huh? People cheering for harassment here, shades of NeoGAF.
Harassment if he'd been popular around here, but because he's a controversial figure, he's a snowflake who needs to man up?
Hate to presume, but something might be lost in translation/ESL here, and 'serious insults' might actually mean threats.
since that is the rhetoric he likes to use, I think it's fair to apply to his actions as well.
"serious insults" =/= "death threats".
He replied to the tweet I quoted above, so it's kinda fair to assume he's talking about this.
I mean are we supposed to feel sorry for the guy?
He was acussed of anti-Semitism when he and her couple have family that died in the camps, fyi.
Calling anti-Semitic to someone from Eastern Europe is always opening a huge can of worms because one way or the other, almost all of them have some relationship with the Holocaust. As a Spaniard I feel embarrassed, it's a topic that is totally alien to the people from this country and yet we like to talk like pros.
Calling anti-Semitic to someone from Eastern Europe is always opening a huge can of worms because one way or the other, almost all of them have some relationship with the Holocaust. As a Spaniard I feel embarrassed, it's a topic that is totally alien to the people from this country and yet we like to talk like pros.
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I mean that doesn't preclude him from anti semitism.
But I have no idea what got that accusation thrown at him
It's a ridiculous double standard for users here to pick and choose when harassment is acceptable.
2 wrongs doesn't make a right guys...Just because you don't agree with his views doesn't mean he should be harassed.
No, they called him a nazi while having jewish heritage.
You know, for being harassed.
The thing is, for all we know, this wasn't the case in this instance. And of course, people will blame feminists and "SJW", because spanish "gators" are in all instances of gaming here, from devs to gamejournalists to these events.
No, but you should consider not cheering for precisely the same behaviour that this forum rails against.
And JohnTron is an immigrant who is ridiculously racist.
And FoxNews is full of women who are insanely misogynists
If these people made sense they would not be assholes
I received death threats in the past
focus is in the past.
Police was notified, they laughed and I followed my life.
He didn't appear to have received death threats for going on this or else it would have been mentioned instead of insults.
pretty much, this is becoming a real problem that's gone way beyond politics
lol @ the guys saying "but he's being harrassed"
the only thing we know so far is that he got called a Nazi and is now pissed.
when you tweet out hyper-controversial things, you can't expect to not get flack for it.
I do not agree with calling him a Nazi because I don't think he is a literal (neo-)Nazi but a racist and potential fascist? sure thing.
the only thing we know so far is that he got called a Nazi and is now pissed.
when you tweet out hyper-controversial things, you can't expect to not get flack for it.
I do not agree with calling him a Nazi because I don't think he is a literal (neo-)Nazi but a racist and potential fascist? sure thing.
I mean, if you support Gamergate, you support harassment -- that was the whole campaign ... then for him to complain about harassment, I mean, it's kind of hypocritical. I don't feel a need to stand up to protect someone from their own karma. He helped foster the environment he's now living in.
So is harassment one of those things that's only acceptable when it applies to somebody you don't like/agree with?
No. But enabling harassment is not the right way to act. Specially not when someone uses the "oh look at this snowflake, man up", which was used so many times to deflect and silence legit instances of abuse before. I mean for fucks sake, the forum complains about toxic masculinity almost daily and when someone you don't like feels insulted about something the first thing you can think of replying is "man up"? Seriously?
Would Gamelab have even cared? Not everyone in the industry is a Polygon.
Some really love "disconnecting the art from artist" even while specifically praising the artist.
It's hypocritical yeah but so are the people here who are condoning this behaviour.
he voluntarily posts on twitter. and his posts are controversial to say the least. do you expect people to NOT call him out? he does the same thing with his 30+k followers-
"Daniel Vávra, director of Kingdom Come: Deliverance, a gentleman who's openly racist, sexist and a GamerGate apologist, has been invited to @gamelab for a reason I can't understand"
HOW IS THAT HARASSMENT? She stated a series of facts. He's the director of that game, he's openly racist and sexist and supports harassment, he was invited to Gamelab, and she can't understand it. So much for freedom of speech that women can't state their opinion on public figures.
Death threats are not okay and they're a perfectly legitimate reason to cancel any public appearance.
Still, I wouldn't be surprised if he simply cancelled as an easy way to give a "reason" for his followers to mob the person/group who called him a nazi. Plus all the white supremacists / gamergaters that will join in after smelling blood in the water, of course.
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Oh, I misread. I thought it was insults AND death threats. Yup, sounds a bit snowflakey.
Still, I wouldn't be surprised if he simply cancelled as an easy way to give a "reason" for his followers to mob the person/group who called him a nazi. Plus all the white supremacists / gamergaters that will join in after smelling blood in the water, of course.
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Oh, I misread. I thought it was insults AND death threats. Yup, sounds a bit snowflakey.
He's a racist and a xenophobe nationalist which game tries to paint any non-czech character as villains or beasts.
I think Nazi/Fascist is a good description of him.
There is so much irony that you are saying this considering your posts in this thread.
Theres a difference between someone you don't like and a previously active gamergator
While normally harassment is horrific, gamergators especially deserve a dishing of their own medicine imo. Now if he had came out and apologized, and tried to be better, thats a different story. But afaik, he just went quiet after awhile and hid.
Calling people out on deserved shittiness is not equivalent to years of literally ruining tons of womens careers in the industry.
You're implying that's the only tweet that made him not want to go
People showing it's discomfort that a suposed more diverse "gamelab" edition, brought a racist, mysoginist to talk about his racist, mysoginist game, is not harassment.
how so? it's a rhetoric he supports (I don't) applied to him. issa joke my dude.
While I agree with you with the man up part, iwannaseethereceipts.jpg
because for all we know it can just be people rightfully calling him a sexist and racist which he showed more than enought to be.
People are talking about death threats without a single linked tweet having the word. The OP even use insults instead of harassment.
You need to be SERIOUSLY privileged to think insults is the same as harassment
Calling someone a Nazi is heavy stuff, but it was normalized recently, especially in this board.