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Oct 26, 2017
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Alright I finished Muspelheim, did trials 1, 3 and 4. When I then did trial 6 I was invincible for some reason, not sure what happened... got 62 kills before the timer ended for a gold rating.

Now I just have Sigrun left to defeat, all my armor is maxed and I'm lv. 9 so things are as good as they are going to get.
 

SlipperyMoose

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
2,231
So I'm doing some side missions before I get the chisel and I can not beat the last flying dude on the one island. The first two are find but the boss kicks my ass. Any suggestions?
 
Oct 26, 2017
11,034
That would have also gotten old, if they did that. The identical "rip wings off" kill sequences are already immersion breaking. It would have been dramatically improved if they all died in unique ways that reflected their gimmick.

Hopefully the next game has more unique bosses.

Considering the original GOW 1 had the most boring boss fights and 2 had arguably the best and most diverse hopefully the next GOW in this series follows the same trend.
 

ByteCulture

Banned
Nov 1, 2017
706
Iam on my way to the giants realm. :) Playing in "God of War" mode. Got the Tyr Armor and one of the Tyr Shards. Many people have given up way earlier... but i will stand tall and break the gods. :D

I love the double blades :D
 

PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
Member
Oct 25, 2017
115,496
Are the shield combat skills worth it? I never really fight without my ax unless I have to.

Do you ever spend XP upgrading enchantments?

Enchantments can't be upgraded. You only use EXP to learn abilities and upgrade Runic Magic Attacks. And yeah, the shield skills are definitely worth it in a pinch. Especially the upgraded parries.
 

Cocksman

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
1,514
Just finished it. Goddamn, what a game. What an experince. I really hope they get right to work on a sequel. I'd be completely cool if they just reuse assets to get a sequel out quickly on current gen. I just really want to see where the story goes. :)
 

sora87

Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,860
Geirdriful
can fuck right off. First time in the game I just can't work out a fight and get past it.
 

Superman2x7

Banned
Nov 4, 2017
1,692
Just beat Rota, she was quite simple, beat her on my first try. Her moves are easily telegraphed. I just have two more left before the queen. Rota and the one with the red reavers I was able to beat on my first try.

Right now I just have the one surrounded by mist and the one in the challenge area with just the challenges.

I usually dont play a game after I complete it but the combat in this game is so awesome. I have Bloodborne from PS+ which I've never played before ready to go next but I have to complete these challenges first.
 
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bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
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Oct 28, 2017
13,511
Are the shield combat skills worth it? I never really fight without my ax unless I have to.

Do you ever spend XP upgrading enchantments?
Yes. Parries are practically necessary on higher difficulty levels. You also need to fight unarmed for certain enemies, on top of unarmed combat being useful for building the stun meter. It's a waste if you're not using everything you have at your disposal, there's so much to be done with the combat.
 

SunhiLegend

The Legend Continues
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Oct 25, 2017
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Gamer17

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Oct 30, 2017
9,399
Why the fuck this sirgun (Valkyrie queen)so fucking difficult. I m level 8 and weapons fully upgraded at easy(switched from normal to easy for the Valkyries ) and I m trying to kill the bitch for the 14 th time and it's not happening .
 

Perzeval

Prophet of Truth
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Oct 25, 2017
10,533
Sweden
Why the fuck this sirgun (Valkyrie queen)so fucking difficult. I m level 8 and weapons fully upgraded at easy(switched from normal to easy for the Valkyries ) and I m trying to kill the bitch for the 14 th time and it's not happening .
Spec yourself for runic & cooldown. Wait for her attack, evade and unleash your runic attack. Rinse and repeat. Give Atreus the health armor & buy a resurrection stone. Basically be patient and only attack after her attacks. Also, have you maxed out atreus and the runic skills you're using?
 

jarnet87

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 30, 2017
1,612
Finished it today. I have some minor complaints.

thought the game dragged a little too long and there was a bit of combat arena padding, but I may feel this way due to playing some extended sessions this weekend to finish it. Was playing in 45 minute chunks or so up til the weekend and thought the combat was pretty brisk, much less than 1-3.

part that dragged for me was every time it felt like I was close to getting to Jotunheim they would put another road block in the way. Especially the last one with needing to get Mimir's eye. I liked that they found a way to bring the blades of chaos into the game, but wish they had kept its usage to that first trip to helheim. a few less troll bosses would have been nice.

That's really it for negatives. The story was a big improvement over past games. I liked the older portrayal of Kratos and Christopher Judge did a nice job. I didn't do that much side content but I liked what was available and the open world feel of the game. Didn't make use of the equipment system either but I could see it being more important for those playing on harder difficulties. Excited to see where it goes from here.
 

supernormal

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
3,144
Why the fuck this sirgun (Valkyrie queen)so fucking difficult. I m level 8 and weapons fully upgraded at easy(switched from normal to easy for the Valkyries ) and I m trying to kill the bitch for the 14 th time and it's not happening .

I used Sindri's Dwarf armor which is highly focused on empowering your runic attacks, and it honestly made the rest of the Valkyries a piece of cake (compared to the first two I defeated without the armor). It grants you protection while your doing a runic attack and has high cooldown so you basically always have an attack available ( You should be switching back and forth between weapons while your Runic attacks charge). I was basically spamming runic attacks and cutting through Valkyries like they were nothing. Sigrun was a bit different though.

I started out going overly aggressive on her, and while it got me close, I wasn't getting consistent results. I beat her at "barely" level 7 on normal and after trying different strategies this is what worked. You're gonna have to play a reactive fight. Watch her attacks, and learn them. Wait for her to come to you, and capitalize with Runics when she close and open after you've either counter, blocked, or evaded her attacks. I used the Realm Shift talisman, which slows down time when you dodge perfectly. Also Atreus Wolf summon was pretty useful, you keep her in place while you either go in on her, or decide to pick up health.

After you get the pattern down, you'll realize that it's not really that hard, especially if you have a Beserk Resurrection stone. Even doing pretty badly you should be able to get her halfway down, use spartan rage when you're at your last bit of health to get maybe 1 or 2 more chunks out her. Then if you die, you've got another Spartan Rage ready to take 2 more chunks of health out. When that's over you've got 4 full runic attacks and Atreus summon still left.

The most annoying part was the drop attack, which she'd sometimes do while I was in the middle of a long Runic animation and I'd have no way to evade it.

Edit: I would really love if you could fight the Valkyries again and again.
 
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Oct 27, 2017
3,960
I hope they add axe and shield finishers on the next game. Its seems like most finishers are variatons of grapling and tearing the enemies. I think finishers involving the axe would be so awesome. Despite its faults, Ryse has some incredible finishers, with a strong feeling of impact. Also it has some good exemples on how to execute the moves on more than one enemy at once and using a weapon and shield.
 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
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Oct 28, 2017
13,511
Why the fuck this sirgun (Valkyrie queen)so fucking difficult. I m level 8 and weapons fully upgraded at easy(switched from normal to easy for the Valkyries ) and I m trying to kill the bitch for the 14 th time and it's not happening .
It sounds like you're fighting her frustrated. That could be a huge factor into it as playing against a Valkyrie, especially Sigrun, while you're not calm is a death wish. You can't rush your attacks and should back away after a single combo at most. Sprint when you have to in order to get away from her attacks or pick up health stones. Have Atreus in his runic vestment so that he'll toss you health stones when your health is low, or use Ratatoskr (squirrel summon) to get either health (light arrows) or rage (shock arrows) stones. Make sure you've got the berserker stone too so that you can be brought back to life with a full rage meter. Use that to replenish your health and dish some damage at the same time, but make sure you use up your first rage meter before having to use the resurrection stone.

Her attacks are all easily dealt with if you observe her carefully and studied the past Valkyries' attacks because they're all just the same.

What seems to cause people the most problems is her stomp grab attack, so you should dodge roll the second you see her zip out of the screen and be prepared to keep doing so. If you don't see a red/purple arrow on your threat indicator after she's landed, that means she's not going to jump again and is open to an attack. If you do see an arrow, then keep dodge rolling until you don't. The most number of times she'll do this attack consecutively is three. Next to that, there's also the aerial shockwave attack, which can be countered with a quick (remember: accuracy over speed, don't rush it) axe throw or arrow shot once she goes up into the air.
 

stryke

Member
Oct 28, 2017
2,347
Hope they unlock the Valkyries to be fought with multiple times. I didn't think to reserve a save to fight them again :(
 

overcast

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,404
I'm about 4-5 hours into the game and loving it. Not really here to read or get into it as I'm avoiding spoilers but I figure this is the place to talk to PS4 owners.

The audio on my headphones keeps breaking up in high intensity moments. Super frustrating and killing my momentum. Anyone else experience this? I tried my controller and my brother's controller now and it happened with both.
 

Gamer17

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
9,399
Spec yourself for runic & cooldown. Wait for her attack, evade and unleash your runic attack. Rinse and repeat. Give Atreus the health armor & buy a resurrection stone. Basically be patient and only attack after her attacks. Also, have you maxed out atreus and the runic skills you're using?

I used Sindri's Dwarf armor which is highly focused on empowering your runic attacks, and it honestly made the rest of the Valkyries a piece of cake (compared to the first two I defeated without the armor). It grants you protection while your doing a runic attack and has high cooldown so you basically always have an attack available ( You should be switching back and forth between weapons while your Runic attacks charge). I was basically spamming runic attacks and cutting through Valkyries like they were nothing. Sigrun was a bit different though.

I started out going overly aggressive on her, and while it got me close, I wasn't getting consistent results. I beat her at "barely" level 7 on normal and after trying different strategies this is what worked. You're gonna have to play a reactive fight. Watch her attacks, and learn them. Wait for her to come to you, and capitalize with Runics when she close and open after you've either counter, blocked, or evaded her attacks. I used the Realm Shift talisman, which slows down time when you dodge perfectly. Also Atreus Wolf summon was pretty useful, you keep her in place while you either go in on her, or decide to pick up health.

After you get the pattern down, you'll realize that it's not really that hard, especially if you have a Beserk Resurrection stone. Even doing pretty badly you should be able to get her halfway down, use spartan rage when you're at your last bit of health to get maybe 1 or 2 more chunks out her. Then if you die, you've got another Spartan Rage ready to take 2 more chunks of health out. When that's over you've got 4 full runic attacks and Atreus summon still left.

The most annoying part was the drop attack, which she'd sometimes do while I was in the middle of a long Runic animation and I'd have no way to evade it.

Edit: I would really love if you could fight the Valkyries again and again.

It sounds like you're fighting her frustrated. That could be a huge factor into it as playing against a Valkyrie, especially Sigrun, while you're not calm is a death wish. You can't rush your attacks and should back away after a single combo at most. Sprint when you have to in order to get away from her attacks or pick up health stones. Have Atreus in his runic vestment so that he'll toss you health stones when your health is low, or use Ratatoskr (squirrel summon) to get either health (light arrows) or rage (shock arrows) stones. Make sure you've got the berserker stone too so that you can be brought back to life with a full rage meter. Use that to replenish your health and dish some damage at the same time, but make sure you use up your first rage meter before having to use the resurrection stone.

Her attacks are all easily dealt with if you observe her carefully and studied the past Valkyries' attacks because they're all just the same.

What seems to cause people the most problems is her stomp grab attack, so you should dodge roll the second you see her zip out of the screen and be prepared to keep doing so. If you don't see a red/purple arrow on your threat indicator after she's landed, that means she's not going to jump again and is open to an attack. If you do see an arrow, then keep dodge rolling until you don't. The most number of times she'll do this attack consecutively is three. Next to that, there's also the aerial shockwave attack, which can be countered with a quick (remember: accuracy over speed, don't rush it) axe throw or arrow shot once she goes up into the air.

Thank you guys for your help .now I will meditate to relax and then try to kill the bitch haha.will look into sindri armor as well.cheers
 

Gamer17

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
9,399
I'm about 4-5 hours into the game and loving it. Not really here to read or get into it as I'm avoiding spoilers but I figure this is the place to talk to PS4 owners.

The audio on my headphones keeps breaking up in high intensity moments. Super frustrating and killing my momentum. Anyone else experience this? I tried my controller and my brother's controller now and it happened with both.
Weird .no I never had this issue .but I was listening through sound system and not head set
 

Cyborg

Banned
Oct 30, 2017
1,955
Thank you guys for your help .now I will meditate to relax and then try to kill the bitch haha.will look into sindri armor as well.cheers

It took me 11h to beat her. My tip as soon as she goes in the air for her light attack use the Boy to shoot at het and break her attack. The rest you can block or dodge
 

Sir Guts

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm about 4-5 hours into the game and loving it. Not really here to read or get into it as I'm avoiding spoilers but I figure this is the place to talk to PS4 owners.

The audio on my headphones keeps breaking up in high intensity moments. Super frustrating and killing my momentum. Anyone else experience this? I tried my controller and my brother's controller now and it happened with both.
Whats your headphone? + Works fine with other games?
 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
Moderator
Oct 28, 2017
13,511
Thank you guys for your help .now I will meditate to relax and then try to kill the bitch haha.will look into sindri armor as well.cheers
Good luck! Sometimes all you need is a break, just like with studies, personal projects, and work. If you still have a difficult time, feel free to ask for some more tips. I could even post my recording of the fight (I played on Give Me a Challenge, though) if you think that'll help.
 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
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Oct 28, 2017
13,511
Thank you guys for your help .now I will meditate to relax and then try to kill the bitch haha.will look into sindri armor as well.cheers
Oh right, one last thing. If you haven't yet, you should get the Shattered Gauntlet of Ages. Fully upgraded, you'll have three enchantment slots for it, and you can slot it with three of the Infinity Stones (there are six specific legendary enchantments that reference Marvel's Infinity Stones, while the gauntlet itself is a reference to the Infinity Gauntlet) to unlock an upgraded version of its talisman ability. While the ability is not essential to defeating Sigrun, it does give you an additional attack. This is on top of the stats those enchantments will give you. Mine gave me a total of 70+ points.
 

Deleted member 36086

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Dec 13, 2017
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Geirdriful
can fuck right off. First time in the game I just can't work out a fight and get past it.

These are the moves that gave me trouble at first:

Unblockable aerial attack that makes everything go dark: when she signals this attack, do a quick turn. If she's not on screen when she does this move it wont hit you.

Dagger throw attack followed up by a quick charge that stabs you (ublockable): She will do two dagger throws immediately followed up by the unblockable stab move. If you dodge the second dagger throw she wont charge you, instead she will do a third dagger throw.

General tips: don't try to counter, dodge. Try to always dodge to your right. Let her come to you. There's an enchantment that speeds up your dodge speed and covers more distance. Use it if you have it.

I beat her on GMGOW difficulty using sindri's set.
 

overcast

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Oct 25, 2017
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Elfstruck

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
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I have steinheisser 598's in great shape. Even decided to plug in my other headphones to see if that was the issue and the audio still had those occasional hiccups. My brother is gonna let me borrow his usb headphones tomorrow though.
Hmm, I used the Beoplay H8 with mix amp pro and there was no problem. Are you using the same cord?
 

BossAttack

Member
Oct 27, 2017
42,949
Just beat Rota, she was quite simple, beat her on my first try. Her moves are easily telegraphed. I just have two more left before the queen. Rota and the one with the red reavers I was able to beat on my first try.

Right now I just have the one surrounded by mist and the one in the challenge area with just the challenges.

I usually dont play a game after I complete it but the combat in this game is so awesome. I have Bloodborne from PS+ which I've never played before ready to go next but I have to complete these challenges first.

Once you've played Bloodborne you'll suddenly realize how inferior most game's combat systems are, including GoW.
 

jon bones

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Oct 25, 2017
25,996
NYC
Damn, this game is amazing so far. Every aspect is pitch perfect.

My only wish was for some cosmetic DLC so I can play with an Old Man Thor skin & Stormbreaker.
 

BossAttack

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Oct 27, 2017
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lmao

It's not BB but it's damn good, in fact I can't even remember a western AAA game having combat as good as GoW in recent years.

Different strokes for different folks. I find it to be quite mediocre at best. I find it too sluggish, the enemies soak up too much damage, combos meaningless since spamming light attack will work out fine, and it too reliant on power levels/gear instead of skill. Also, the enemy variety is extremely lacking.
 

zoukka

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Oct 28, 2017
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Different strokes for different folks. I find it to be quite mediocre at best. I find it too sluggish, the enemies soak up too much damage, combos meaningless since spamming light attack will work out fine, and it too reliant on power levels/gear instead of skill. Also, the enemy variety is extremely lacking.

"Extremely" is such a drastic word.
 

Sir Guts

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Different strokes for different folks. I find it to be quite mediocre at best. I find it too sluggish, the enemies soak up too much damage, combos meaningless since spamming light attack will work out fine, and it too reliant on power levels/gear instead of skill. Also, the enemy variety is extremely lacking.
Spamming light attack will work out fine? Yeah if you're playing on easy..
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Spamming light attack will work out fine? Yeah if you're playing on easy..
Ey spamming light attack is actually pretty OP on GMGOW since you can immediately cancel out of it.

Jeezus christ this Sigrun fight is getting on my last nerve. playing on give me a challenge and while many fights where hard including the other valkryies I still felt they were fair, This shit is just straight up bullshit from the constant flying around losing track of her due to the shit camera, constant unblockable attack spamming bs, on top of high hp and high damage output despite being at lvl 8 with fully upgraded Valkyrie set with all epic enhancements and both weapons equipped with epic pommels, fully maxed out HP and rage meter along with a resurrect stone and i still can't beat this bitch. I refuse to lower the difficulty since i played through the entire game so far and won't lower just to beat one cheap ass boss.
Glad to pop back into this thread and see people still blaming the game for them being bad.
 

Robiin

Member
Oct 26, 2017
311
Uhm, is this a big ass difficulty spike or am I fucking horrible at this game?

Playing on the second highest difficulty, everything up to this point has been relatively easy. Now I reached The land of Giants or whatever and this guy with a HUGE sword is just bullying me...

EDIT: Just beat him, apparently called a Traveller. By far the hardest enemy in the game so far.
 

~Fake

User requested permanent ban
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Oct 27, 2017
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Ey spamming light attack is actually pretty OP on GMGOW since you can immediately cancel out of it.
Lol. This thread keep giving. The early GMGOW of this game is a living hell, Its hard to believe someone have guts to speak that.
I mean, one strike and you dead, they level up without animation and turn into knockback/launch imunne.
We probably played different games.
 

Nephilim

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Oct 28, 2017
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Different strokes for different folks. I find it to be quite mediocre at best. I find it too sluggish, the enemies soak up too much damage, combos meaningless since spamming light attack will work out fine, and it too reliant on power levels/gear instead of skill. Also, the enemy variety is extremely lacking.
Yeah. Similar to Bloodborne. R1 is Bloodbornes most used button too.
 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
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Oct 28, 2017
13,511
Also, the enemy variety is extremely lacking.
I think a lot of people are getting this impression due to the Trolls and Ancients. It's true that that was a weak point in the game, but the rest of the enemies we face are quite varied. I can think of up to 14 enemy types off the top of my head, and this is without their variations. The Draugr alone has numerous different versions, although they do also have the most variations, on top of all the different versions we have of all the other enemies. In my opinion, we got a generous number of enemy types and variations that create various scenarios requiring the players to approach them tactically. At least that's how I felt while playing on Give Me a Challenge.
 

BossAttack

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah. Similar to Bloodborne. R1 is Bloodbornes most used button too.

The point is that Soulsborne doesn't stuff its combat with meaningless complex combos. The entire combat systems of those games is built around Light Attack (R1) and Heavy Attack (R2). It's about judging for yourself which to use during a fight and being fully in control and committing to one of those attack animations.

I think a lot of people are getting this impression due to the Trolls and Ancients. It's true that that was a weak point in the game, but the rest of the enemies we face are quite varied. I can think of up to 14 enemy types off the top of my head, and this is without their variations. The Draugr alone has numerous different versions, although they do also have the most variations, on top of all the different versions we have of all the other enemies. In my opinion, we got a generous number of enemy types and variations that create various scenarios requiring the players to approach them tactically. At least that's how I felt while playing on Give Me a Challenge.

A slightly different version of a Dragur is not what I call enemy variety. I've already beat all of the main Muspelheim trials, including the boring "Kill 100 enemies" one which painfully reveals the lack of enemy variety. Off the top of my head the enemies are basically Dragurs (Ice and Fire), Heavy Draugrs (Ice and Fire), Nightmares (Ice, Fire, or Poison), Reavers, Light Dark Elf, Heavy Dark Elf, Trolls, Ancients, Travelers, Burrow Dog things, and Wolves. That's not exactly a lot, especially when many are so similar.