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Barnak

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,049
Canada
I kinda regret finishing the main story before certain Blades sidequests... now I can't do Perun's because you have to go to the old factory in Mor Ardain which is now filled with lvl 96s... and I'm 75.
So... either i do NG+(we keep our current sidequests in progress right?) or i lvl up a lot by killing unique monsters and using inns?
 

Pablo Mesa

Banned
Nov 23, 2017
6,878
I kinda regret finishing the main story before certain Blades sidequests... now I can't do Perun's because you have to go to the old factory in Mor Ardain which is now filled with lvl 96s... and I'm 75.
So... either i do NG+(we keep our current sidequests in progress right?) or i lvl up a lot by killing unique monsters and using inns?
Nope, NG+ hard resets sode quest
 

VariantX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,874
Columbia, SC
I kinda regret finishing the main story before certain Blades sidequests... now I can't do Perun's because you have to go to the old factory in Mor Ardain which is now filled with lvl 96s... and I'm 75.
So... either i do NG+(we keep our current sidequests in progress right?) or i lvl up a lot by killing unique monsters and using inns?
probably should head toward the spider cave in gormott and level up there since theres a bunch of level 70 enemies there, then kill territorial rothbart to get you to 80, kill the level 80+ mobs behind the locked gate near the port/elevator in mor ardain, then go after the mobs in the old factory. You'll get there quicker than you think if you're good at building elemental combos.
 

Phoenix944

Member
Oct 28, 2017
925
I'm like 15h in the game but I don't know if I want to play more... At that point I just want to see more of the story and the characters.
The one thing preventing this is this passive gameplay. I mean I probably still need to unlock some stuff but after 15h I think I saw most of it, and it bores me a lot :( Even on easy mode it still feel like a slog.

Maybe I'll just skip side quests (since I'm trying to do all of them as soon as I can), but damn I need some motivation.

That being said, I probably don't exploit all there is to the battle system so battles could go faster. Basically what I'm aware of :
- third hit of auto attack does the most damage
- you can combine elements attack for special effect and continue the "combo chain"
- you need to use your skill just after an auto attack hits for extra damage

Anything I should know to speed up battles?
 

Rhaknar

Member
Oct 26, 2017
42,390
At 15h you have seen very little actually, mechanically.

You don't cancel auto attacks with skills for extra damage, you do it to gain meter. You want to be constantly doing it and switching blades to gain increasing levels of meter to chain combo with your other members. Say someone does a level 1 special, you want to build a level 2 so you chain your current blade three skills, switch to another blade and so on.
 
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Kiria

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
1,624
I'm like 15h in the game but I don't know if I want to play more... At that point I just want to see more of the story and the characters.
The one thing preventing this is this passive gameplay. I mean I probably still need to unlock some stuff but after 15h I think I saw most of it, and it bores me a lot :( Even on easy mode it still feel like a slog.

Maybe I'll just skip side quests (since I'm trying to do all of them as soon as I can), but damn I need some motivation.

That being said, I probably don't exploit all there is to the battle system so battles could go faster. Basically what I'm aware of :
- third hit of auto attack does the most damage
- you can combine elements attack for special effect and continue the "combo chain"
- you need to use your skill just after an auto attack hits for extra damage

Anything I should know to speed up battles?

do attack cancel for faster arts. then when you progress in the game you can do arts cancel

imo just skip side quest you can do those later anyways and only missable ones are late in the game
 

Barnak

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,049
Canada
probably should head toward the spider cave in gormott and level up there since theres a bunch of level 70 enemies there, then kill territorial rothbart to get you to 80, kill the level 80+ mobs behind the locked gate near the port/elevator in mor ardain, then go after the mobs in the old factory. You'll get there quicker than you think if you're good at building elemental combos.

Eh... I don't feel like grinding 20 levels for hours just to complete a quest. I might as well do NG+ and get those levels by playing the main game and get the quest again later.

By the way.... I'm seeing some of my Blades with maxed Affinity Chart getting ranks like S1 and S2... what's the point of this? Do they get stronger or something?
 
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Rhaknar

Member
Oct 26, 2017
42,390
man fuck this riddle on the wall / uncover the truth quests lol, thank god we live in the age of easy access to youtube :p

also, fuck this
Agate
sidequest while we're at it. And the
polar bear lady
one also.
 
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Pablo Mesa

Banned
Nov 23, 2017
6,878
man fuck this riddle on the wall / uncover the truth quests lol, thank god we live in the age of easy access to youtube :p

also, fuck this
Agate
sidequest while we're at it. And the
polar bear lady
one also.
But agate SQ is easy...once you realize one of her dig spots not fails is in the annoying cave
 

Rhaknar

Member
Oct 26, 2017
42,390
ok, all sidequests up to CH8 done except the stupid
Polar Bear Girl
one, because fuck that one after I saw what you needed later (I really cba) and
Salvage King
, because im missing the
treasure you need a platinum cilinder and specific weather for
(also CBA), 91 hours on the clock so time to go back to the
World Tree
and finish CH8 I think :)
 

Nephilim

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,272
In the middle of chapter 7 after this cave.
I still haven't figured out how to cancel arts... can somebody help? I love the combat system but this aspect i didn't grasp.. only know of this through this thread.
 

MattAces

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,212
Malaysia
In the middle of chapter 7 after this cave.
I still haven't figured out how to cancel arts... can somebody help? I love the combat system but this aspect i didn't grasp.. only know of this through this thread.
https://www.resetera.com/threads/xenoblade-2-blade-chain-driver-combo-advanced-battle-guide.9206/
At least you're still enjoying the combat. Whenever people complain about the combat at the beginning or late game, then give up on the game. I just want to cry . Like seriously please learn Cancel attack and combo the Cancel attack, obtain the 3k affinity skill ASAP. Cancel attack is such a huge mechanic that you will literally be using forever.


I hate it when someone says "yo this game is good after 20-30 hours" but my god, this game is such a different beast after 20-30 hours (after getting cancel attack combo and learning orbs breaking). Whenever I see someone new playing this game I have anxiety, like please push on, I swear the combat gets crazy good later on.
 
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MattAces

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,212
Malaysia
But you didn't use orb breaking on the last boss tho :3
I pretty much learned most of the mechanic in post game like a dumb ass, so yea, I hope everybody doesn't follow. But I planned to continue even after the story, so there was still a lot of chances to enjoy the full combat. This is one of those game that I will keep sending guides for new players, LEARN CANCEL ATTACK and COMBO!
 

Nephilim

Member
Oct 28, 2017
5,272
https://www.resetera.com/threads/xenoblade-2-blade-chain-driver-combo-advanced-battle-guide.9206/
At least you're still enjoying the combat. Whenever people complain about the combat at the beginning or late game, then give up on the game. I just want to cry . Like seriously please learn Cancel attack and combo the Cancel attack, obtain the 3k affinity skill ASAP. Cancel attack is such a huge mechanic that you will literally be using forever.


I hate it when someone says "yo this game is good after 20-30 hours" but my god, this game is such a different beast after 20-30 hours (after getting cancel attack combo and learning orbs breaking). Whenever I see someone new playing this game I have anxiety, like please push on, I swear the combat gets crazy good later on.
Admittedly i had a hard time to get into this combat system, and i finished both predecessors, that's saying something how lackluster the tutorials are in XC2. Or is it me? I don't know. Fact is that Monolith are masters to hide the best things of their amazing games away or make it as obtuse as possible.
The first one was the most accessible out of the bunch. X and XC2 have a lot more systems and layers to grasp, but once you understand all the systems it all makes sense. The problem here is arrive to the point to understand all the systems.

I love this beautiful game, but i have a major issue with it: enemy placement/density and UI regarding that i can not disable or customize it properly. It takes away quite a bit immersion when every monster has the level number above their heads. This wasn't the case in the previous games.
The only two downsides of the game, parts of ch.4 and the cave in ch.7 have one thing in common: enemy placement. Putting high level foes in your way that can one hit kill you is stupid. Don't mind if an area is optional, but don't put this shit in mainquest progression. Especially in "that" cave i had to rely on luck to pass a specific point.

That's really it with my complaints. What makes me wonder how easily this issues could be removed in order to make the game even more enjoyable.
 

duckroll

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,121
Singapore
Will we get an announcement for May's patch details tomorrow? Will there be another new rare blade for season pass holders this month?
 

CeroMiedo

Member
Oct 26, 2017
4,337
Will we get an announcement for May's patch details tomorrow? Will there be another new rare blade for season pass holders this month?
I'm more concern about that triple combo glitch, I just lost 40 tachyon chip after doing that flashy move on a random superboss without knowing it would break the game
 

AlanOC91

Owner of YGOPRODeck.com
Verified
Nov 5, 2017
959
Is there risk of making the game too easy by doing tons of side-quests instead of progressing through the main story?

I'm on the end of Chapter 5 and
Aeshma
was kicking my ass to be fair and I was like 10 levels ahead of it.

I just don't want to make that distance too high by the end of the game.
 

MattAces

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,212
Malaysia
Is there risk of making the game too easy by doing tons of side-quests instead of progressing through the main story?

I'm on the end of Chapter 5 and
Aeshma
was kicking my ass to be fair and I was like 10 levels ahead of it.

I just don't want to make that distance too high by the end of the game.
Doing subquest won't neat you xp directly, only those enemies that you kill. You have to go to the inn to cash in xp, and that is where you can choos to not over level yourself, or use it when you're under level.
 

Barnak

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,049
Canada
Is there any items that can speed up the Blades switch recharge? I'm trying to farm up some gold chips and core crystals in the process, but i often miss a Break->Topple>Launch->Smash combo because one of my Blade with the necessary Art is on recharge...

By the way... does any NG+ exclusive Blades have sidequests related to them like the others?
 

Zen Hero

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,627
Is there any items that can speed up the Blades switch recharge? I'm trying to farm up some gold chips and core crystals in the process, but i often miss a Break->Topple>Launch->Smash combo because one of my Blade with the necessary Art is on recharge...

By the way... does any NG+ exclusive Blades have sidequests related to them like the others?
Yes there are.

The driver accessory called overclocking bangle speeds up blade switching. Also there are blade aux cores called fast blade switch.

Another thing to keep in mind is that different blades have different recharge times. You can check in their stats.

The NG+ blades don't have side quests but they do have heart to hearts.
 

Rhaknar

Member
Oct 26, 2017
42,390
theres actually a few new sidequests in CH10 but I just want to finish the game now tbh, these last few chapters are just bombshell after bombshell. I assume they will stay in your log when you finish the game so I might get around to do them when im bored at work just to pass the time or something. But yeah for now, time to finish the game I think.
 

Barnak

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,049
Canada
I got Dahlia yesterday, and man she's the worst design I've ever seen. I wonder if voice actors ever saw the design of their characters before doing their job? I doubt it.
"So you're going to do VA for this character for a story about helping a little girl who is very fond of you".
"Oh, how cute. I'll do it!"
"Also, your character is going to be half naked and have ginormous boobs because...reasons, here is how she looks."
"Wha...?"

They even took the time to make an animation where she lean forward lol.

As much as I like the game, I hope they tone down on the half naked girls and big boobs in the next Xenoblade. I don't the mind the anime, just... it's hard to take a character seriously when they're like that. And it seems the writing and design teams never talked to each other because no one in the story seems to acknowledge how ridiculous some Blades look like.
Oh well, I'm sure this was talked about a lot when the game launched.
 
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Rhaknar

Member
Oct 26, 2017
42,390
welp, theres the last boss fail... sigh. And yes, im using the combos, he was almost dead, then did the one shot, Morag survived, got me up and I got Nia up... but he still didnt come back in range, he just did another 1 shot right after. Neat >_>
 

Disclaimer

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,417
welp, theres the last boss fail... sigh. And yes, im using the combos, he was almost dead, then did the one shot, Morag survived, got me up and I got Nia up... but he still didnt come back in range, he just did another 1 shot right after. Neat >_>

Set up 4-5 orbs to break and one shot him before he gets low enough to one shot you, IIRC.
 

LinkStrikesBack

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
16,340
thats what im doing. Just had 5 orbs now, and I actually couldnt keep the chain going and then the adds killed me lol. Sigh...

You are transforming Pyra/Mythra in to pneuma before the chain attack right? You should easily be able to kill him somewhere from nearly half health with 5 Orbs if you do. If you get Pneuma to attack with her level 3 in a chain attack, it's basically done.
 
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Rhaknar

Member
Oct 26, 2017
42,390
And finished

WHOS CUTTING ONIONS IN MY ROOM?

Great ending to a fantastic game, marred only by the ridiculous and completely unnecessary fanservice that actually sorta ruins a lot of scenes, I'm really not sure what Monolith were thinking with these designs. Still, easily one of my favorite JRPGs ever, and alogn wtih Zelda probably already justified my Switch purchase. Now give me Xeno X port pls Nintendo :(
 
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Man God

Member
Oct 25, 2017
38,276
It's kinda funny that they didn't do a song number for Ursula's quest especially considering how much work it is.
 

MattAces

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
3,212
Malaysia
And finished

WHOS CUTTING ONIONS IN MY ROOM?

Great ending to a fantastic game, marred only by the ridiculous and completely unnecessary fanservice that actually sorta ruins a lot of scenes, I'm really not sure what Monolith were thinking with these designs. Still, easily one of my favorite JRPGs ever, and alogn wtih Zelda probably already justified my Switch purchase. Now give me Xeno X port pls Nintendo :(
Now go play xc1, if you plan on playing it, don't read anything about it, or else just go ahead and spoil yourself. Prioritise xc1.
 

Pandora012

Moderator
Oct 25, 2017
5,495
Sooo got my switch and decided to buy xenoblade 2 because of all the hype and Monolith are the people that created my favorite games Xenogears and Saga. However, I'm having a roughish time with this game. It's not clicking at all with me, like Monolith's previous entries. The games doesn't seem to have the spirit of the other games, but the story seems interesting on it's own. Granted I'm only on chapter 2, how long before the story gets going?
 

OrakioRob

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,491
Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
Hey! I just bought a Switch and I'll grab Xeno 2 as my fist game. I'm a huge Monolith fan and Xeno X is probably my favorite game ever (played it for +350 hours on my Wii U).

I know there's a new story coming in the future through DLC and I'm sure I'll get it eventually, but I'm a bit low on money right now. Am I missing something if I wait a bit and only buy the season pass after I beat the game? I read the DLC release notes and I see they include item packs, but I don't know what those items actually do. Do they improve the game somehow or only make the game easier? Also, are the extra sidequests worth the price of the season pass?
 

Zen Hero

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,627
Hey! I just bought a Switch and I'll grab Xeno 2 as my fist game. I'm a huge Monolith fan and Xeno X is probably my favorite game ever (played it for +350 hours on my Wii U).

I know there's a new story coming in the future through DLC and I'm sure I'll get it eventually, but I'm a bit low on money right now. Am I missing something if I wait a bit and only buy the season pass after I beat the game? I read the DLC release notes and I see they include item packs, but I don't know what those items actually do. Do they improve the game somehow or only make the game easier? Also, are the extra sidequests worth the price of the season pass?
Currently the DLC side quests and items are nice to have as you're playing through for the first time, but they're not a big deal. The real meat of the DLC is the story expansion. Personally, I don't think there's a problem waiting to buy the DLC later.