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JigglesBunny

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Oct 27, 2017
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But not actually, because they aren't real. Laws protecting minors are about protecting actual humans.
Nope, nope nope nope. We're not doing the "fictional minors shouldn't be considered unlawful because they aren't real" bullshit. It's pedophilic regardless of whether it's fictional or not and there's not a word you can say to justify it. Just throw that shitty and deplorable take right into the trash.
 

Chairmanchuck (另一个我)

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Some generalization in this thread already. Seems most VNs on Steam are nukiges, where the only reason to play is is to wank.

Yep. Most people played Steins;Gate because of it (even though it doesnt have H content).
People read the taiwanese VN companion, because it shows a love story between a former prostitute (without any shown sex scenes) and a scientist.
Oh. I forgot Higurashi, which people play because of the non existent sex scenes.

Most of the VNs I have installed on Steam right now dont even have a 18+ patch, because they dont have such content.

I am not saying there are not games like Huniepop or those ecchi sakura games on Steam, but I would argue when it comes to well produced VNs, there is far more tame stuff on Steam than nukige or ecchi stuff.
 

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These developers saying their queer games are being targeted are being dishonest, portraying minors with pornographic content and sexualising them whether they're LGBTQIA or not doesn't make a difference.

Stop drawing characters that intentionally look < 12 but are said to be "adults", and some games don't even say they're adults, that sort of content is flat out illegal in many countries - against the law to sexualise minors even in cartoon pornographic material and this is what these games do.

Other games that do LGBTQIA and don't sexualise minors and other games with mature sexual themes are not being targeted... funny how that is, it's almost like Valve is taking action against a very specific market/type of games that we know sexualises minors regardless of sexual orientation like those creepy child dating games, never mind that so many of these games target audiences like with lesbian content is for straight men as it is with the animes/mangas that do the same.

It's likely Valve is getting pressured by groups in countries that know this is being put on the platform where it's illegal in many countries.
This is literally not true from what we know so far. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good crusade.
 

Echo

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Oct 29, 2017
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Mt. Whatever
Censorship is wrong, but it'd be nice if they did something about these games littering my Steam store page. I've never shown any interest in one or purchased one. I can't tell if they're so abundant that it is all Steam can show or the algorithm is seriously screwed up and shouldn't be showing me those games.

Use the customization options Valve provides. You can block up to 3 keywords for general store usage (It will still show them if you search however.) You're also granted unlimited keyword blocking for your discovery queue.
 

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Yes, I believe drive-by posts and not contributing to the discussion, which is already miles ahead of your take about "sick fantasies" (unless gay sex in college is a sick fantasy to you) shouldn't be allowed. In which case, why are you still here?
That reaching to make me look like a bigot, lmao. Just stop. It's embarrassing.

From what I've seen they are mostly targeting Loli type games and I'm good with that. Some games may not deserve to be removed but I'm sure if they work with valve they can be added back.
 

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VLC and Plex aren't actively hosting content like Steam does. They don't have a say in what you can play on it. "Inappropriate" content on Steam is there by their consent.

the point was the Steam Link app itself is not hosting the content either, your computer would be the same way it is with Plex which just streams it
 

Stitch

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They're not censoring every wang and boob in every game on the platform, the examples in the OP seem as if they're specifically targeting the overwhelmingly creepy and suspiciously child-like anime dating sim games.

So like, ya know, good on Valve.
Nah not good. Huniepop for example has been on sale for more that 3 years. It's censored anyways and Valve was totally fine with it. I'm sure it even showed up in the Steam Awards a few times.(edit: actually only once)
And now for some reason they're altering the deal like Darth Vader.
 

oneils

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But not actually, because they aren't real. Laws protecting minors are about protecting actual humans.

edit: and again, to be clear, I'm not championing these kinds of games, so much as I am against arguing a principle that makes no sense (like protecting non-existent minors from exploitation).

simply not true in a few jurisdictions. depiction of child porn in drawings and writing is illegal in some countries.
 

Filament Star

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These developers saying their queer games are being targeted are being dishonest, portraying minors with pornographic content and sexualising them whether they're LGBTQIA or not doesn't make a difference.

Stop drawing characters that intentionally look < 12 but are said to be "adults", and some games don't even say they're adults, that sort of content is flat out illegal in many countries - against the law to sexualise minors even in cartoon pornographic material and this is what these games do.

Other games that do LGBTQIA and don't sexualise minors and other games with mature sexual themes are not being targeted... funny how that is, it's almost like Valve is taking action against a very specific market/type of games that we know sexualises minors regardless of sexual orientation like those creepy child dating games, never mind that so many of these games target audiences like with lesbian content is for straight men as it is with the animes/mangas that do the same.

It's likely Valve is getting pressured by groups in countries that know this is being put on the platform where it's illegal in many countries.

The snake is really eating its own tail in this thread.
 

Palas

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That reaching and to make me look like a bigot, lmao. Just stop. It's embarrassing.

From what I've seen they are mostly targeting Loli type games and I'm good with that. Some games may not deserve to be removed but I'm sure if they work with valve they can be added back.

"Mostly", except not really. We don't know how many games were targeted, but two out of the, what, five games we do know don't feature sexualization of minors in any way, and the third has this really specific catgirl who couldn't have been caught on looks alone since she looks nothing like a minor. So the criteria used in the first place couldn't have been that. You know what's embarrassing? Being a jerk. You're being a jerk. I'm not trying to outyou as a bigot, I'm trying to out you as someone who hasn't read the thread and is just posting to aggravate people while not providing anything insightful.
 

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There's a clear distinction between tasteful, cinematic sex and "get my dick hard looking at some softcore implicit lolis" sex.

If you ask me it's more a case of what is generally accepted as a depiction of sex, versus what begins to be classed as pornographic. As this is the internet, of course someone has compiled all of the sex scenes from The Witcher into some sort of movie that has over a million views (because of course it does)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoH0ynsgccU (I would embed but the thumbnail will probably get me warned)

What you'll find is very little penis if any at all, a lack of vagina and mostly just breasts and implied sex (often with camera cuts and moaning). Implied sex meaning, yes, sex is obviously happening, but it's not graphic penetration. Something that TV and films can't get away with either or they'd be rated as AO/Porn.

Compare that to some of the stuff on steam which is far more graphic.

This starts to move away from the children/minor content and tries to understand why Steam might be hitting some games that don't have minors. Seeing as we already have a few "but what about TW3 and GTA?!" replies already.

The tldr being, it really doesn't matter how tasteful something is for most of the mainstream around sexual content, as long as it's not depicting minors or being incredibly graphic. If it's incredibly graphic, most forms of media then state it is porn or pornographic. It's then up to a platform holder if they want to supply legit porn. Which I personally have no problems with anyone doing, as long as it's not sexualizing minors or supplying CP.
 
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I dunno. I have a friend who looks younger than she actually she is and she's not very confident because of her body type. Like I don't really like the idea that anybody who finds her attractive would be automatically demonized. I feel like people with certain body types should be able to believe that they can be attractive. I mean hell, on the flip side, there are definitely underage girls who look older than they actually are. So, like I don't think someone being attracted to a more petite body type means they suddenly lack morals and are going to go out and rape kids just cause they might have a similar body type to what they find attractive. Just like someone being attracted to a more "mature" body type isn't going to go out and rape some 15 year old just cause "she looked like she could be 20". I guess in the context of a game, I think there's a bit of a difference of a game that's like "hey here's a character of ambiguous age" and five minutes later, you're having sex with them and a game where a character might look youngish but the character's age is very clearly stated as over 18 and the game spends hours establishing them as mentally mature enough before anything even remotely sexy happens with them. Like if a game goes out of it's way to be like "hey, it's alright to find people with this body type attractive but only if they're actually legally and mentally adults", I don't really see the problem. Though, I don't imagine that applies to a lot of games. So, I'm not really defending any of these particular games as I know nothing about any of them other HuniePop which I've seen let's plays of us and I certainly wouldn't defend the "1 year old catgirl character that is ACTUALLY 18 IN HUMAN YEARS GUIS" in that game.
Some adults have bodies that look young, and some teenagers have bodies that develop fast and makes them look like adults.

I'm not denying that.

I'm saying that, for the most part, the people who make these games make their characters look like children, not adults with 'young' bodies, and the people who play them do so because they are attracted to children.

I would never, ever trust anyone who plays them around my children, or any children if I had a say in the matter.
 

low-G

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First impression is this is seriously fucked of Valve. Arbitrary censorship standards could really hurt Steam.

So where is the line in the sand? Does anyone know? There are high profile games of many types all over the scale on Steam.
 

Kewlmyc

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Oct 25, 2017
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Haven't been following the thread but not surprised there is a defense force for this too. Mods should follow valve and clean house

If you've been following the thread, which I highly doubt since it's like 1000 posts to be fair, the strike zone for these new rules is so broad that some games that don't feature your typical "creepy anime bullshit" are also being targeted. So labeling all the games affected as "sick fantasies" is bound to get people riled up enough to comment on your very low effort drive by post.

You talk about purging accounts, but generalization like you did earlier is also a bannable offensive here, as seen by some casualties in this thread.
 

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the point was the Steam Link app itself is not hosting the content either, your computer would be the same way it is with Plex which just streams it

Aye maybe it works the same way, depending on what sort of deal Apple and Valve have going on.

Seemed like the most likely reason why this has come up out of nowhere with such little notice. This smells more like a legal issue than an ethical one, in my totally baseless opinion.
 

Hexa

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Based on what I've heard:

Interesting. Where did you hear that?
I hope this is what it is, more of a technical issue related thing that makes sense that is blowing up due to Valve being godawful at communicating rather than arbitrary policy.
 

Crossing Eden

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Not actively encouraging violence is not the same as disincentivizing violence. I don't remember Rockstar ever advertising a GTA game with "shoot old person, get money!", or having missions with that kind of objective. And yet, shooting random old person NPC may yield cash in GTAV, much disincentivizing happening there lol.

At the end of the day, random violence is at the core of the GTA experience, and it is about as disincentivized as clicking the random natural disaster button in SimCity games that destroys your carefully built metropolis, meaning not at all.

This "violence is always contextualized, so it's ok"-talking point is a sham for the most part, but especially with GTA as an example. That series does your argument zero favors.
The amount of money you get is so negligible, (funny enough if you die as a result of the police chase you basically lose it all at the hospital as it always takes a percentage of your wallet's amount, up to 5K compared to the what, 150 you got from killing a person?). Violence having more contextualization than objectification is absolutely a valid talking point. We don't have all these articles about God of War's contextualized violence for shits and giggles.

There's a clear distinction between tasteful, cinematic sex
I wouldn't even call the Witcher tasteful, but it sure IS tasteful in comparison to the stuff in the games in question.
 

Frozenprince

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Oct 25, 2017
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Okay, the Roomates thing makes the "cracking down on underage stuff" theory fall apart instantly. So there's a good chance it's at least one jackass flagging a bunch of anime-style games. Fucking hell.
That's always what this is, it's why Patreon bans or restricts adult content creators at random. Because they target people who get reported usually for entirely arbitrary reasons.
 
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Several people have mentioned The Witcher series. And that's a good point. So what is the distinction here? Lots of tits and sex in The Witcher. But that's okay?
That's "okay" because we have no idea what Valve's policy actually is here.
The term "sexual content" doesn't come from Valve but from some developers.

Valve's policy might be "no sexual content depicting people who look like minors" or "no sexual content in anime games" or "no sexual content in any game except The Witcher 3". We don't know.
 

Ferrs

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Come on man, no she doesnt. Adult girls can have smaller breast (my gf for example and she is 30yo), its good that not everyone is big tittied in those drawings because differnet girls have different body types, and her face and proportions as still drawn like an adult. Its very clear when really young lolis are drawn and that girl is not like that.

Also because ive been reading from your other posts in the last pages that all this types of visual novels have rape and minors. Again dont be like that and generalise. Its true some of them have, and those should be rightfully banned, but a lot of others dont. For example hunie pop is a dating game, theres no rape, amd while you could say that objectifies women (but you are playing an erotic game, they are not hidding the sexuality implied) what we need is other dating games that give more option for everyone, like a dating game with all male characters or a game dating game with LGTB characters (both of this exist, but more wouldnt be harmful in the least).

I dont think I said that? I said there's a lot of games like that yeah, but I think its clear I dont mean all are like that. I actually said I'm ok and it's good to have better depiction of sex in games.
I wasn't even thinking about VN btw, more about those censored RPGs you see in Steam, but still my intention was never to generalise.

About the character, I wasn't even thinking about the size of the boobs when I said how I view her (this would be stupid to me considering I've also been with small chested girls), but anyways, seems like there's another problematic character so it's maybe that one the one Valve found problematic.
 

jph139

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There's a clear distinction between tasteful, cinematic sex and "get my dick hard looking at some softcore implicit lolis" sex.

Not really, though. You know how many work of legitimate merit have been banned as pornographic? Hell, the Diary of Anne Frank has gotten the hammer for sexual content - and that's not to draw a comparison between it and fucking Huniepop games, but to show how extremely those rules can be applied based on individual interpretation.

There has never been a clear distinction between art and pornography. The line is always moving.
 

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Not really, though. You know how many work of legitimate merit have been banned as pornographic? Hell, the Diary of Anne Frank has gotten the hammer for sexual content - and that's not to draw a comparison between it and fucking Huniepop games, but to show how extremely those rules can be applied based on individual interpretation.

There has never been a clear distinction between art and pornography. The line is always moving.

Read my posts above, there has been fairly clear lines for quite a while around media and acting around when something becomes classed as pornographic. Versus when it's simply rated 18/M and having sexual content.
 

Frozenprince

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The problem is Valves arbitrary process to this kind of content. They set guidelines then tell you the guidelines they just set now no longer apply and a completely different set of guidelines are now required to get on the store.

And no it's not just games with content featuring minors, that are hit by this.
 

TLZ

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Noice. Love it. Hopefully all platforms follow suit. This stuff has no place in games. Let games be games please.
 

Trup1aya

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I understand how GTA became popular in the first place. In the same vein, I understand the design decisions Rockstar has made since then. "Let's give the police better aim and advertise the simulation aspects of our game over petty crime while also doing more to contextualize the crime that exists in the game." GTAV punishes petty violence far more than it encourages it, it never tells you, "shoot that old person and take her money for no reason." Am I saying it's perfect with it's execution? No.

This is just untrue.

You argue that sending cops for petty crimes is a punishment... but cops are also sent for campaign missions. So obviously, the developers believe that sending cops creates a fun experience for the player.

That you can trigger a cop response from anywhere in the map by comming acts of violence- without actually starting a mission - just goes to show you how aware they are that players get joy out of the mechanic and how integral it is to the core gameplay loop.

The game doesn't have to tell you to shoot grandma and take her money in order to encourage the behavior. They intentionally make it a rewarding experience by making it hilarious.

If they wanted to penalize petty crime against civilians (as if assault, GTA, and murder are petty), then it would trigger a fail state, not launch the players into the some of the best , most dynamic scenarios the game has to offer.

"Context" is such a weak argument to justify portrayals of gratuitous violence. Why doesn't context also justify gratuitous sexual acts?

"He's a criminal so it's ok if he kills 200 cops in a bank robbery." Is no better an argument than "She's actually 18, even though she looks 12, so this sex scene is ok". The context argument doesn't even fly if the sexual characters are madly in love and clearly of age. Context doesn't excuse the fact, in all cases, the titillating content is what is actually being sold.

So again, culturally, why is gun porn ok, but sex porn bad? If it's all about underage porn/ sexual assault why don't they just say that? (Even though that wouldn't explain the general issue with depictions of sex)
 
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Diablos

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Its possibly mainly due to the age of the characters being affected or how their design is like. Seems like majority affected are Japanese/anime like games with characters that look like underage.


I dont think any of that is in Witcher 3 or GTA5.
That I can understand. Again, I admit my ignorance as I know nothing about these games. But in a general sense it seems like a double standard.

I mean... if you've played Witcher 3 you know the part of the game I'm talking about that blends nudity, sex and violence in a really bad way.
 

LostSkullKid

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Some adults have bodies that look young, and some teenagers have bodies that develop fast and makes them look like adults.

I'm not denying that.

I'm saying that, for the most part, the people who make these games make their characters look like children, not adults with 'young' bodies, and the people who play them do so because they are attracted to children.

I would never, ever trust anyone who plays them around my children, or any children if I had a say in the matter.
I guess so but it feels like a lot of people in this thread are automatically deeming any character that doesn't fit some weird specifications as a child. Like there's definitely some characters that are clearly designed to look like children. But I've seen people referring to characters that are relatively tall and even have pretty noticeable breasts as children just because of the artstyle or something. I just don't get where the line is drawn.
 

CerealKi11a

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I look forward to the day I can pick a random anime in a given season or a random anime-inspired game and have to turn it off because it's simply bad and not because of the random, pointless ecchi BS you get in 70% of the medium.

Hopefully stuff like this helps enforce that change.
 

Hammee

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Use the customization options Valve provides. You can block up to 3 keywords for general store usage (It will still show them if you search however.) You're also granted unlimited keyword blocking for your discovery queue.

Cool, will check this out. I appreciate the tip.
 

hobblygobbly

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But as shown above, the Roommates game has LGBT content and does not depict minors (You cannot convince me that a game where the developer makes a point to set it in the first year of College depicts minors in any sense, if you looked at the characters in the game they're all drawn in a manner that is decidedly "older") and they got hit with a strike. If it's due to sexual content, Ladykiller in a Bind should have been hit as well. It just reeks of inconsistent application of some arcane rules that Valve has not made public. (Again, all the people in the thread who are absolutely certain it's about the depiction of minors are talking out of their asses because we genuinely cannot know due to Valve's silence)

This is literally not true from what we know so far. But let's not let facts get in the way of a good crusade.

Okay I do apologise since I did not look at every game, but the ones I am aware of in the past and the ones mentioned in this thread like Kindred Spirits too, I missed Roommates and yeah you're right that doesn't have pornographic material involving minors. I just think the vast majority of these genres like yuri that depict minors in pornographic material and sexualised is unacceptable, and they do exist on Steam. I mean I don't think valve is targeting content like Life is Strange: Before the Storm.

I apologise I don't mean to be generalising and yes we don't know if it's going to target all sexual content, it's just that there's a lot of the yuri games with sexualised minors on steam that to me this seems what it's about.
 

Echo

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If you ask me it's more a case of what is generally accepted as a depiction of sex, versus what begins to be classed as pornographic. As this is the internet, of course someone has compiled all of the sex scenes from The Witcher into some sort of movie that has over a million views (because of course it does)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoH0ynsgccU (I would embed but the thumbnail will probably get me warned)

What you'll find is very little penis if any at all, a lack of vagina and mostly just breasts and implied sex (often with camera cuts and moaning). Implied sex meaning, yes, sex is obviously happening, but it's not graphic penetration. Something that TV and films can't get away with either or they'd be rated as AO/Porn.

Compare that to some of the stuff on steam which is far more graphic.

This starts to move away from the children/minor content and tries to understand why Steam might be hitting some games that don't have minors. Seeing as we already have a few "but what about TW3 and GTA?!" replies already.

You keep saying that Steam has all this graphic and AO stuff, but in actuality the versions hosted by Valve/Steam don't let you access these things. You are required to go lord knows where and download patches and hope that Steam doesn't auto-update the game to make it back to original.

When all is said and done, these games will be further censored and still available to buy, but given the nature of PC, you'll just be able to uncensor again via a patch.

For a long time VN fans have operated this way. A popular example would be Fate/Stay Night. It's originally a PC game with plenty of lewd, but they made a PS2 and Vita version with updated graphics and story so some consider those the definitive editions. You know what PC crowd did? Ripped the Vita ver for it's new videos/music and the PS2 ver for everything else, patched in the adult content again and made a new "definitive" version from all 3.

The same will happen here, only easier of course because no ripping yada yada, but you get my point.
 

daegan

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they need to actually spell out rules and actually hold to those rules. this type of scattershot going directly to devs without issuing any kind of overarching statement leads exactly to the kind of circular discussion happening here. and if they are only going after anime-style games because of that art style, that's horseshit, but there's no way to know because it's only the developers/publishers talking about it right now.
 
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JC Lately

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Huh. Roommates, but not Lauren The Amazon Princess? Huniepop but not huniecam? Weird. Wonder if Littlewitch Romanesque got hit by this?

No sex in Princess Maker, but some nudity here and there. Will that get hit too?

Also, Coming Out On Top, Dream Daddy, and Ladykiller seem to be unaffected, so go off on claiming it's somekind of LGBT+ crack down.
 

Frozenprince

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Valve recently removed
https://store.steampowered.com/app/793450/Desecration_of_Wings/

From the store repeatedly while it's creator was given the run around repeatedly about what she had to do just to get her game on the platform. It features no underaged or loli models in sexual situations, everybody is an adult, and yet she still couldn't get a version with no sexual content other than what you'd find in any other M rated game on the platform while Valve refused to communicate.

The issue has always been that Valve does not communicate at all anything about any reasoning why beyond arbitrary shifts.
 

Hierophant

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Okay I do apologise since I did not look at every game, but the ones I am aware of in the past and the ones mentioned in this thread like Kindred Spirits too, I missed Roommates and yeah you're right that doesn't have pornographic material involving minors. I just think the vast majority of these genres like yuri that depict minors in pornographic material and sexualised is unacceptable, and they do exist on Steam. I mean I don't think valve is targeting content like Life is Strange: Before the Storm.

I apologise I don't mean to be generalising and yes we don't know if it's going to target all sexual content, it's just that there's a lot of the yuri games with sexualised minors on steam that to me this seems what it's about.
It's good that you are at least willing to look into it, because the way Valve has conducted this isn't as cut and dry as many in this thread proclaim, it is arbitrary and I can understand why some of the developers are scared shitless about it especially since there's no actual feedback besides "get rid of pornographic images". Plus the lack of any communication has led to some of these Devs being absolutely sure that it's due to their queer content (again, something we cannot know, just as much as we cannot know that they're specifically targeting games that have questionable ages)

 

Braaier

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That's "okay" because we have no idea what Valve's policy actually is here.
The term "sexual content" doesn't come from Valve but from some developers.

Valve's policy might be "no sexual content depicting people who look like minors" or "no sexual content in anime games" or "no sexual content in any game except The Witcher 3". We don't know.

There must be developers here who publish on Steam and can give us more details on the actual policy, right? Or is there no written policy and this is just at the whim of some folks at Valve?
 

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You keep saying that Steam has all this graphic and AO stuff, but in actuality the versions hosted by Valve/Steam don't let you access these things. You are required to go lord knows where and download patches and hope that Steam doesn't auto-update the game to make it back to original.

When all is said and done, these games will be further censored and still available to buy, but given the nature of PC, you'll just be able to uncensor again via a patch.

For a long time VN fans have operated this way. A popular example would be Fate/Stay Night. It's originally a PC game with plenty of lewd, but they made a PS2 and Vita version with updated graphics and story so some consider those the definitive editions. You know what PC crowd did? Ripped the Vita ver for it's new videos/music and the PS2 ver for everything else, patched in the adult content again and made a new "definitive" version from all 3.

The same will happen here, only easier of course because no ripping yada yada, but you get my point.

But even if it's censored by pixels like Japanese porn, it's still incredibly graphic in some of these games

I'm assuming it looks like this during play?

NSFW (I blurred it myself)

Mod Edit: NSFW removed

Yet the dev is on twitter saying



I wouldn't really call that tame even if it is censored. "Tame" is the likes of The Witcher 3 supercut video I posted above.
 
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Kemono

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Does this include some VR games that are straight up porn? And what's stopping people from modding these content back in?

And I'm playing Ace Attorney to help me become a Public Defender.

So videogames don't affect real life? Then this whole thread has been for nothing.

Fantastic.

Haven't been following the thread but not surprised there is a defense force for this too. Mods should follow valve and clean house

Or you could make it easier for the Mods and leave on your own.
 
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