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Customer harassed by Cheesecake factory employees....for wearing a MAGA Hat
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What will that teach the former employees?
Shouldn't we approach these employees with empathy and sympathy instead of shaming them? What they did was wrong, but isn't it time to educate them, talk to them, get to understand where they're political views come from. They're human, humans make mistakes.
Aren't you be concerned that denying them employment forever might not just radicalize them further?
So the idea is that the black guy in the maga hat doesn't realise what he is doing? He is clearly uninformed/uneducated because a black person could never support trump, if they knew the facts?
If he is politically educated, does this make him a racist/homophobic/xenophobic/transphobic/islamophobic hate filled person, or could it be for other reasons not based on hated of other people?
If he is politically educated, does this make him a racist/homophobic/xenophobic/transphobic/islamophobic hate filled person, or could it be for other reasons not based on hated of other people?
Ahhhhhh. No prob. I jumped to conclusions. Tariq is a hotep-lite pimp hustler in my opinion. I don't really fuck with any Hotep of any flavor, even if he's not TOO bad with his Hotepery.
Here's what he is
Clear?
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It has an effect. Not all states give state's electors to statewide winner: example 2012 Elections
Some can do it by congressional district or have a policy in place where the rest of the state;s Electors win most of the district as opposed to popular vote. I would need time to see if any of that went down in last election but 2.8 million isn't really something to sneeze at.
You're right. I had thought it was pretty insightful and sufficiently poignant, upon reading it again it does appear however to be a rambling half coherent pile of utter shite that I regret posting.
More hatred - less attempts at insightfulness and poignancy from me going forward.
Like anywhere else on the internet, 99,99% of the tough guy posters would never go mano e mano IRL/AFK.
It's actually kind of Amazing how this information you provided completely cleared up any confusion about your meaning og log cabin guys I had, yet has left me still completely confused in a new way.
I mean, how? What? This would be like a Road Runner voting for Wil E Coyote.
What are you doing road runner, his platform is I want to spend disgusting amounts of money on absurd programs to kill the road runner.
Like, he wants to kill you AND he's clearly not really conservative with money. You're like 0 for 2 here wearing his hat.
What underlying narrative? All I see is "people who wear MAGA hats aren't nazis" and the exact opposite, and this is absolutely nothing new. The ends don't justify the means here, because neither of them are any
If literally every single damn person who vote votes Democrat in California and New York and other very populated states, they only get the votes for those states, and the Democrat can still lose if not enough democrats in OTHER states vote for them.
The sheer VOLUME of the votes don't matter, WHERE those votes are coming from do.
If gerrymandering mattered that much for the presidental election then no Democrat would have ever won as they always win the popular vote. How did Obama win his two terms if the electorial vote, which he needs to win, is stacked against him? Well, either he somehow pulled some voodoo or the more people voted for him even those or other gerrymandered regions than they did for Hilary.
So in that case, yes, Hilary lost because not enough people in the right places voted for her! Apathy? They liked Trump better? Who knows! But this is the fact; voting matters very much. You know what doesn't? YELLING!!!
Gerrymandering matter for individual elections in states and EVEN THEN...
I'm obviously not saying that no one nowhere voted for Hilary at all, but my personal opinion that there was enough apathy, because again, the Republicans voted for Trump like they did Romney, that she lost. So those apathetic voters, and any new voters, need to get their asses in gear.
I don't care about the divide, I care about the divider, and in this case the divider fucked up royally, and that isn't much up for debate.
User Banned (5 Days): Trolling throughout the thread, previous infractions for similar behavior.
Some people really like Donald trumps personality. He's a pretty hilarious guy. I can imagine a black person liking him even though he is orange and they are black.
Well I'm glad you've seen the error in posting that. Admitting ones mistakes is a sign of maturity. Good on ya.
liking someone's personality is not a reason to advocate for their political positions (MAGA being the slogan that summarizes those positions)
try again
I think a lot of people are supporting trump on personality alone. If you don't think that, that's cool.
Maybe he is a conservative. He doesnt have to support everything Trump stands for or has done but can still like some of his policies.
His response to Charlottesville was a real knee slapper! What a goof!
the premise of your argument is that this man is politically educated, "knew the facts" about trump's policies, and supports him anyway
now you're telling me it's possible he ignores trump's politics and wears a MAGA hat because he's "hilarious"
Oh but PLEASE tell me how wearing a MAGA hat isn't a tacit support of white supremacy. PLEASE tell me how we shouldn't be so mean to fucking RACIST SCUM. PLEASE TELL ME how it's THE LEFT that is being unreasonable.
FUCK
Trump's policies are garbage.
And wearing a MAGA hat means you've bought into the whole thing, not just "some of his policies". Dude is proud to be a Trump supporter.
For those defending Trump for just having a difference of opinion you realize he gave Breath of the Wild a 6 out of 10 eh?
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That douche should have been perma banned for his first post alone. Which was obviously not sarcasm.
I strongly dislike the President and anyone who supports his policies *BUT* this guy was a customer at the restaurant and deserved to be treated with respect regardless of the hat he was wearing.
Yeah thats true but im just saying there are people that voted and support Trump but not everything he does. There are also people that like his policies.
I'm not a Trump supporter so i wont defend that. I just answered his question because i have conservative friends that like some of Trumps policies but dont like how he behaves or acts sometimes.
If you're going to wear a swastika, then don't feel bad when people call you out for it.
They did the same with NAZI's in the 1930's before Hitler got in power. They'd kick those fuckers with the arm bands out of many establishments, as they knew they were violent arseholes that killed people.
Sadly they failed in the 1930s, so let's not fail again. CALL THESE FUCKERS OUT! Drag em out in the open, were everybody can see them, and do NOT give them a podium.
They did the same with NAZI's in the 1930's before Hitler got in power. They'd kick those fuckers with the arm bands out of many establishments, as they knew they were violent arseholes that killed people.
Sadly they failed in the 1930s, so let's not fail again. CALL THESE FUCKERS OUT! Drag em out in the open, were everybody can see them, and do NOT give them a podium.
Has the story been corroborated?
If true, restaurant employees should know better than to hassle a customer but something doesn't smell right
If true, restaurant employees should know better than to hassle a customer but something doesn't smell right
Oh no, they absolutely do, there's just a time and a place for it.
And you shouldn't use slurs when berating them.
Just jumping in here so if there's context I'm missing, then cool.
1. Wearing a MAGA hat is a good general indicator of a person's likely political views in a broad sense, but it isn't necessarily indicative of an individual's conscious tacit support of white supremacy (because individuals do things for any myriad number of reasons, while being informed or aware to varying degrees). For example, re: the person in this story: if I were betting, I would bet against him consciously supporting white supremacy.
2. As to whether we "shouldn't be so mean to fucking RACIST SCUM." Because of what I just said, it doesn't follow that they are necessarily racist scum. And in general, while the anger is reasonable, the staff at a restaurant shouldn't antagonize people.
3. As to whether it's THE LEFT that's being unreasonable: Anyone advocating aggressive treatment of people for doing what the guy in the OP's story did, is advocating for an approach that may be emotionally justified, but that's detrimental to us as human beings trying to get along in society. I don't think this is specific to THE LEFT.
My worry is a huge amount of people don't make that direct association; while I don't have any sympathy for MAGA hat wearers, a lot of people don't see it as a big deal. And shaming MAGA hat wearers in public isn't necessarily going to convince them that it is a big deal, and instead might cause them to see them as victims of unfair harassment and/or not want to support the people on that "side."
I doubt this behavior is going to convince anyone to become a Trump voter, but I do think it has an effect on the apathetic people who don't vote.. the "neither side" types. And I very seriously doubt the behavior is going to convince anyone to vote "left" who wouldn't have. "Oh hey, I wasn't going to support the Democrats, but now that MAGA hat wearers are being harassed in public, I'm in!"
And there's plenty of people in that "neither side" space who don't consider a MAGA hat anywhere near a swastika symbolically.
lmao
Where is my NYT article asking if the Cheesecake Factory employees still want to boo MAGA hats?
That hat itself is a political statement so I have no problem with people getting shit for wearing one, to a point. If people start being threatening or intimidating to a person because of it, not so cool with that. Also employees stepped over the line, glad they were fired. Hopefully they will be a bit more professional at their next job.
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It was pretty much corroborated by the company who gave a public statement and fired the employees. Other than that, there are no other accounts of the incident. No video, all the news outlets are referring to the same source and it has become in a hit piece used by the Right wing nut jobs to play the victim and use it to show how intolerant and racist the left is (also, see replies in this thread). We don't know also the race of the fired employees, which will somehow explain the racial slurs allegedly said to him (if the employees were Black)
Quick summary:
https://news.vice.com/en_us/article...-guy-in-a-maga-hat?utm_source=vicenewstwitter