Kotaku: Hacker Is Trying To Make A Virtual Console For His Switch

Amiablepercy · May 15, 2018

NewGuy said:
I have a real sneaking suspicion that a lot of comments about Nintendo lately are gonna look really silly in about a month...

Same. I'm impressed with this fella's ingenuity and can-do attitude but at the same time, I'm vexed by the homebrew situation. I want to believe that most people own the carts they are ripping but torrent/FTP/certain dump site traffic would lead me to believe otherwise. It's a grey zone that because of my own internal compass I choose not to take part in. That said I won't, and feel bad about if I've ever, make irrational accusations about someone without solid evidence they are being disingenuous/nefarious.

EDIT: I'm still excited about Nintendo's Online classic subscription service. I think it has potential and won't rag on it without experiencing it first hand.

danm999 · May 15, 2018

Chindogg said:
Watch the video. He somehow owns exactly every game on the SNES Classic? Including the unreleased StarFox 2?

According to the article he's cloned an SNES Classic, which is why the library is the same.

ginger ninja · May 15, 2018

maximumzero said:
"If Nintendo won't sell me what I want, I'll just steal it instead." is what I'm getting from that statement.

Why not just invest in a similar Android device if you're looking for retro gaming?

Are you really that naive ? What android device comes with as much power as the Switch, has two built joysticks and a gorgeous big screen ?
The switch is the most amazing piece of hardware that is just ripe for all sorts of homebrew(personally looking for ps4 stream aka vita style).

The attitude of some hardcore Nintendo fans in regards to homebrew just comes off as if it is blasphemous to use Switch for ways Nintendo doesn't want or can't support. I know this because I felt the same way when the PS3 was jailbroken. I used to think that PS3 and it's library was too good to be ripped apart by dirty ol pirates lol. Boy was I young and stupidly brand loyal. The amazing things homebrew achieved on PS3 made me a believer that all hardware should be at least meddled with in healthy ways to unlock it's full potential, beyond what is intended by the manufacturers.

signal · May 15, 2018

Another thread devolved into this boring as shit discussion.

Some people rip their own roms, others do not. For conoles as old as the NES and SNES though, no one cares. Literally nothing is gained by pointing out that some guy on the internet playing an SNES rom probably did not rip the cart himself. Report the video to Nintendo if you're that concerned.

samthebreadman · May 15, 2018

I am the person who made this.

Whew. We're going there with this thread. Folks, I'm not actively pirating anything. All I needed was some dummy data for the launcher to work. This includes boxart pngs and metadata. Nowhere do I have a need for an actual ROM until I get to programming the part where I load a game.

Even then, test ROMs will be homebrew. Not copyrighted games.

Also, on release, every bit of asset like sprites, sounds, ect; that Nintendo owns will be changed to something of my own.

Legality is something I have thought long and hard about.

Can we stop talking about piracy? Does every thread have to end this way?

Ivellios · May 15, 2018

Chindogg said:
His video has StarFox 2. A game that wasn't released.

It's just interesting that his video is a direct clone of the SNES Classic, right down to the exact same rom collection.

I did a quick research and i saw that its possible to extract a rom from the SNES Mini so he could have extracted the rom from the console he bought, which came with the game.

So this is not any proof of piracy.

signal · May 15, 2018

ginger ninja said:
The attitude of some hardcore Nintendo fans in regards to homebrew just comes off as if it is blasphemous to use Switch for ways Nintendo doesn't want or can't support. I know this because I felt the same way when the PS3 was jailbroken. I used to think that PS3 and it's library was too good to be ripped apart by dirty ol pirates lol. Boy was I young and stupidly brand loyal. The amazing things homebrew achieved on PS3 made me a believer that all hardware should be at least meddled with in healthy ways to unlock it's full potential, beyond what is intended by the manufacturers.

Demon's Souls online hacking made me hate ps3 cfw.

Chindogg · May 15, 2018

Animal Liberation Ⓥ said:
Could he not have purchased or been gifted an SNES Mini?

Kthulhu said:
A lot of people own SNES games. The SNES Classic has been hacked for awhile. Wouldn't be surprised if someone found a way to pull Star Fox 2 off it.

I guess we can go that route.

Although I'm probably still right.

Red Alert · May 15, 2018

Amaterasu said:
Yeah, tell the company busy making money at a stellar rate how to run a business, random internet person!

İsnt that samr company utterly failed last time ? They are not perfect and making whole lot of mistakes. Particularly Nintendo only saved by their amazing games

Animal Liberation Ⓥ · May 15, 2018

samthebreadman said:
I am the person who made this.

Whew. We're going there with this thread. Folks, I'm not actively pirating anything. All I needed was some dummy data for the launcher to work. This includes boxart pngs and metadata. Nowhere do I have a need for an actual ROM until I get to programming the part where I load a game.

Even then, test ROMs will be homebrew. Not copyrighted games.

Also, on release, every bit of asset like sprites, sounds, ect; that Nintendo owns will be changed to something of my own.

Legality is something I have thought long and hard about.

Can we stop talking about piracy? Does every thread have to end this way?

Thank you for the post. Looking forward to the progress on this!

D.Lo · May 15, 2018

maximumzero said:
"If Nintendo won't sell me what I want, I'll just steal it instead." is what I'm getting from that statement.

that's always how these things come across.

QuigleyMcShine said:
If Virtual Console were the easy money that so many people claim it is I'm sure Nintendo would be cranking out ROMs on Switch already. More likely I'd think it's marquee games like Super Mario World and Link to the Past doing big numbers while the rest are barely worth the effort. After three consoles of being disappointed with VC I'm willing to try something different, and the subscription service could get me to try some things I wouldn't ever spend $5 or $8 on.

Exactly, ROI was surely poor overall. They have all the data, they'll know how the other retro games are selling. And are stepping ahead to a Spotify/Netflix model from an iTunes model which is the obvious future for back catalogue as seen with all other media.

Ivellios · May 15, 2018

samthebreadman said:
I am the person who made this.

Whew. We're going there with this thread. Folks, I'm not actively pirating anything. All I needed was some dummy data for the launcher to work. This includes boxart pngs and metadata. Nowhere do I have a need for an actual ROM until I get to programming the part where I load a game.

Even then, test ROMs will be homebrew. Not copyrighted games.

Also, on release, every bit of asset like sprites, sounds, ect; that Nintendo owns will be changed to something of my own.

Legality is something I have thought long and hard about.

Can we stop talking about piracy? Does every thread have to end this way?

Just want to congratulate you and say that i am looking forward for this.

Cyanity · May 15, 2018

Can't wait for this. I was gonna wait until Nintendo added a proper virtual console to the switch, but fuck it, they've shown a complete inability to understand what their userbase actually wants. I just hope this dude releases his code.

Wowfunhappy · May 15, 2018

D.Lo said:
And are stepping ahead to a Spotify/Netflix model from an iTunes model which is the obvious future for back catalogue as seen with all other media.

I think you're going to be disappointed when the online service thingy launches.

Nintendo charged $5 per NES game on the Wii and 3DS. There is no way they are going to provide access to a significant portion of the NES's library for only $20. I don't know what the catch will be, but there will be one and it will be big.

NewGuy · May 15, 2018

Animal Liberation Ⓥ said:
Explain...

a lot of people seem frustrated that Nintendo is not moving or saying exactly what they want and exactly the time they want it, you can see this in a number of rumor threads with people assuming everything under the sun and with this hacker who seems convinced that Nintendo has completely abandoned the concept of selling their older catalogue on newer platforms due to what I can only guess was the recent Nintendo online info we received.

these comments, however, all conveniently overlook that in a months time we'll be entering into E3 news blowout where I suspect many rumoured games and details surrounding Nintendo's online will be elaborated on.

nothings for certain, but it will be really funny if Nintendo details a new branded " virtual console" tied to the online service, kinda breaking this guy's whole argument for why he decided to hack this in.

D.Lo · May 15, 2018

Wowfunhappy said:
I think you're going to be disappointed when the online service thingy launches.

Nintendo charged $5 per NES game on the Wii and 3DS. There is no way they are going to provide access to a significant portion of the NES's library for only $20. I don't know what the catch will be, but there will be one and it will be big.

Get with the actual times. NES games on the NES classic are $2 each, plus you get hardware, controller, cables, power, and retail distribution charges, so really more like $0.5-1 each per game.

NewGuy said:
a lot of people seem frustrated that Nintendo is not moving or saying exactly what they want and exactly the time they want it, you can see this in a number of rumor threads with people assuming everything under the sun and with this hacker who seems convinced that Nintendo has completely abandoned the concept of selling their older catalogue on newer platforms due to what I can only guess was the recent Nintendo online info we received.

these comments, however, all conveniently overlook that in a months time we'll be entering into E3 news blowout where I suspect many rumoured games and details surrounding Nintendo's online will be elaborated on.

nothings for certain, but it will be really funny if Nintendo details a new branded " virtual console" tied to the online service, kinda breaking this guy's whole argument for why he decided to hack this in.

Yeah that's the other thing, 'Virtual Console' is literally just a branding, there are many retro games available on Switch already and more coming from Sega etc, including even a version of Super Mario Bros, just not under that brand.

Animal Liberation Ⓥ · May 15, 2018

NewGuy said:
a lot of people seem frustrated that Nintendo is not moving or saying exactly what they want and exactly the time they want it, you can see this in a number of rumor threads with people assuming everything under the sun and with this hacker who seems convinced that Nintendo has completely abandoned the concept of selling their older catalogue on newer platforms due to what I can only guess was the recent Nintendo online info we received.

these comments, however, all conveniently overlook that in a months time we'll be entering into E3 news blowout where I suspect many rumoured games and details surrounding Nintendo's online will be elaborated on.

nothings for certain, but it will be really funny if Nintendo details a new branded " virtual console" tied to the online service, kinda breaking this guy's whole argument for why he decided to hack this in.

All of that is definitely a possibility, time will tell.

I also don't blame people for being constructively critical with the way Nintendo has been handling it on the last few systems and Mini releases.

We should (hopefully) have a clear picture at E3. If it is still cryptic, then this is on Nintendo.

sensui-tomo · May 15, 2018

samthebreadman said:
I am the person who made this.

Whew. We're going there with this thread. Folks, I'm not actively pirating anything. All I needed was some dummy data for the launcher to work. This includes boxart pngs and metadata. Nowhere do I have a need for an actual ROM until I get to programming the part where I load a game.

Even then, test ROMs will be homebrew. Not copyrighted games.

Also, on release, every bit of asset like sprites, sounds, ect; that Nintendo owns will be changed to something of my own.

Legality is something I have thought long and hard about.

Can we stop talking about piracy? Does every thread have to end this way?

Looking forward to seeing more of your work mate. Wish i had that kind of talent.

danm999 · May 15, 2018

NewGuy said:
a lot of people seem frustrated that Nintendo is not moving or saying exactly what they want and exactly the time they want it, you can see this in a number of rumor threads with people assuming everything under the sun and with this hacker who seems convinced that Nintendo has completely abandoned the concept of selling their older catalogue on newer platforms due to what I can only guess was the recent Nintendo online info we received.

these comments, however, all conveniently overlook that in a months time we'll be entering into E3 news blowout where I suspect many rumoured games and details surrounding Nintendo's online will be elaborated on.

nothings for certain, but it will be really funny if Nintendo details a new branded " virtual console" tied to the online service, kinda breaking this guy's whole argument for why he decided to hack this in.

It'll be awesome if Nintendo does decide to do that but it won't really change the fact it will have taken them a good 18 months or so to implement the full package for their online plans for the Switch.

That's still a pretty disappointing delivery time for a modern console's online.

spam musubi · May 15, 2018

samthebreadman said:
I am the person who made this.

Whew. We're going there with this thread. Folks, I'm not actively pirating anything. All I needed was some dummy data for the launcher to work. This includes boxart pngs and metadata. Nowhere do I have a need for an actual ROM until I get to programming the part where I load a game.

Even then, test ROMs will be homebrew. Not copyrighted games.

Also, on release, every bit of asset like sprites, sounds, ect; that Nintendo owns will be changed to something of my own.

Legality is something I have thought long and hard about.

Can we stop talking about piracy? Does every thread have to end this way?

I wouldn't get upset over it. A bunch of people here have a weird hangup about emulation and seem threatened by the very concept of it. You're doing good work.

Wowfunhappy · May 15, 2018

D.Lo said:
Get with the actual times. NES games on the NES classic are $2 each, plus you get hardware, controller, cables, power, and retail distribution charges, so really more like $0.5-1 each per game.

The NES classic is also selling them all as a $60 without the ability to pick and choose. Yes, the online service is too—but that's $20, not $60. And it comes with online multiplayer—which yes used to be free, but it's not now.

I doubt the NES Classic costs much to manufacture, and remember that while the same cost differences could be said for physical vs digital, digital games tend to be more expensive if anything.

AR Starts · May 15, 2018

Here is my "if I was Nintendo" pitch:

-2016: Release NES classic with special code inside box that says to be redeemed on next Nintendo console and build up some NX anticipation
-2017 Spring: Release the Switch
-2017 Fall: Release SNES classic with another mysterious code
-2018 Spring: Announce Nintendo Classic apps for Switch. Two apps NES and SNES. Apps that act like classic edition front end. Initial release of all the games from the classic edition console with more games to be added later. Games are $1-3 each. Codes from classic unlock all of the games included on that mini console for free.
-2028 Summer: NES mini reprint.
-2018 Fall: N64 Classic. GB and N64Classic apps on Switch. Smash for Switch with GameCube controller adapter. GameCube pad re-release. GameCube JoyCons. GameCube Bluetooth controller reproduction for Switch.
-2019 Winter: GCN/Wii Classic app on switch no mini console
-2019 Spring: Nintendo Classics Controllers for Switch. Bluetooth reproductions of classic NES/SNES/N64 controllers for Switch
-Fall 2019:Nintendo Classics JoyCons: NES/SNES/N64 themed JoyCons.

New games get added to classic apps every month. Nintendo online service gives away one free title each month like games with gold. Some games get added online multiplayer as planned for current online service.

Bonus: Make each mini console an amiibo that unlocks a bonus in three games: Smash, Botw, Odyssey

NES: 8 Bit Mario Costume for Odyssey and Smash/Zelda 1 Level 1 Eagle bonus dungeon shrine in BOTW

SNES: Super Mario World costume with cape in Smash and Odyssey/Bug catching net indestructible weapon with recharge in BOTW

N64: Bob-omb battlefield bonus level in Odyssey/N64 mode in Smash/Temple of Time bonus shrine with puzzles and enemies inspired by OoT

Would make a lot of money.

Snorkel the dolphin · May 15, 2018

I can't play the NES or SNES Classic in portable mode. Would love to play old SNES games on my Switch so time will tell if Nintendo ever offers the games themselves or if I'll end up using homebrew emulators. Being able to play DKC2 on the go would be amazing.

Vito · May 15, 2018

chronomac said:
I just wish Nintendo would sell the SNES and NES Classics as software collections for the Switch. Basically just take the emulator and ROMs and throw them on a cart and sell it for $60. Make it available digitally and physically. It'll give Switch owners their much-wanted classic games and make it easier for everyone else to buy the little consoles.

I imagine they'd sell millions of both and still have just as many subscribers to their online service.

THIS.

I want retail collections from NES-N64.

NewGuy · May 15, 2018

danm999 said:
It'll be awesome if Nintendo does decide to do that but it won't really change the fact it will have taken them a good 18 months or so to implement the full package for their online plans for the Switch.

That's still a pretty disappointing delivery time for a modern console's online.

sure you could see it that way, but in my opinion, a virtual consul like service is more than likely guaranteed at this point, more than likely tied to switch online (which may be a negative for some). my main issue, however, is that these people seem to be justifying the hacking because of Nintendo's apparent admission when every indication has been pointing in the opposite direction.

yes, the "virtual console" brand is gone but that does not stop them rebranding the same or similar service as literally anything else (Nintendo classic or Arcade Archives comes to mind)

it just seems so silly that people are attempting to create some sort of moral high ground against a flipping corporation, these things run on schedules that are often convoluted and unpredictable. sure go do your thing if you're not willing to wait, but don't think stating that their somehow depriving their customers of the product as justification when we already have an indication that they're gearing up to supply that said product.

appears very childish and impatient to me.

King of FeatherCoin · May 15, 2018

Abdul Malik Ka'bah said:
""I just wanted an authentic SNES Classic or NES Classic experience so I can take out my Switch, give a Joy-Con to a friend and play some games," Breadman told Kotaku in an email. "Nintendo is rather tone-deaf in this situation. If they aren't going to provide a proper solution, I am. Or someone else will. That's why I love homebrew so much. Doing what Nintendo doesn't. I never understand their business decisions."

Yesssssssss, tell this incompetent company

+1

Izanagi89 said:
Chrono Trigger on Switch on the go. Yeah I'm down for this.

Ah yiss, a proper CT that isn't the mobile version or having to bring back my DSi or 3DS.

DigitalOp · May 15, 2018

Metal Slugger said:
"I don't get why they won't stop making $60-80 devices that constantly sell out for years on end to provide a worse, cheaper version that I can play with a Joy Con. BAD BUSINESS DECISION NINTENDO, TIME FOR PIRACY"

Boy we've bought these games 10 times over sheesh lol

WhiteRabbitEXE · May 15, 2018

Mesoian said:
I mean this is neat, but for really realz.

Nintendo won't make virtual console because they want you to buy this.

and this

Full stop.

They'd much rather you pay 80 dollars for this than whatever software solution they'd do, and on top of that, they want to use whatever switch based emulation solution they have to rope you into paying for their online service.

It's not that hard to figure out.

Except those provide 21 and 30 game respectively meaning there's still literally hundreds more games to sell for those two platforms alone. Setting aside the N64, GameCube, Wii, GB/GBC, GBA, DS, and various obscure titles from obscure platforms... And it seems remarkably unlikely that they'll ever give away even a small fraction of those via their online service, especially since right now it's NES only and there's what, a total overlap with the games provided by the NES classic? Even ignoring third party games entirely, Nintendo is leaving hundreds of games in their backlog with no legal way of obtaining on their current gen hardware, with several not even available on the Wii U or 3DS.

It's pretty absurd and indefensible that their "plan" involves you literally not being able to buy... basically the large majority of their entire back catalog? Nintendo arguably has the richest and most culturally significant back catalog of any media company not called Disney, and they literally won't let people access it.

Also: to be honest, I'd actually be willing to pay $60 and $80 respectively to get the NES and SNES Classic libraries on my Switch, and I'd imagine others would as well.

danm999 · May 15, 2018

NewGuy said:
sure you could see it that way, but in my opinion, a virtual consul like service is more than likely guaranteed at this point, more than likely tied to switch online (which may be a negative for some). my main issue, however, is that these people seem to be justifying the hacking because of Nintendo's apparent admission when every indication has been pointing in the opposite direction.

yes, the "virtual console" brand is gone but that does not stop them rebranding the same or similar service as literally anything else (Nintendo classic or Arcade Archives comes to mind)

it just seems so silly that people are attempting to create some sort of moral high ground against a flipping corporation, these things run on schedules that are often convoluted and unpredictable. sure go do your thing if you're not willing to wait, but don't think stating that their somehow depriving their customers of the product as justification when we already have an indication that they're gearing up to supply that said product.

appears very childish and impatient to me.

Nah, children wait for other people to solve their problems because they aren't self sufficient. Adults solve their own problems.

NewGuy · May 15, 2018

danm999 said:
Nah, children wait for other people to solve their problems because they aren't self sufficient. Adults solve their own problems.

are we still talking about video games here?

like I said he's an adult he can do whatever he wants, just don't try to manufacture some grandiose "me against the corporation" as justification for it, it very disengeniouse.

however, with the man himself posting here it seems that out look is simply a result of Kotaku's reporting, that choice quote dosent help tho.

MagnesG · May 15, 2018

Switch hacked = more sales at the end of the day.

danm999 · May 15, 2018

NewGuy said:
are we still talking about video games here?

like I said he's an adult he can do whatever he wants, just don't try to manufacture some grandiose "me against the corporation" as justification for it, it very disengeniouse.

however, with the man himself posting here it seems that out look is simply a result of Kotaku's reporting, that choice quote dosent help tho.

I don't get the grandiose tone you're seeing to be honest. I don't think calling a decision a company makes tone deaf is particularly incendiary.

D.Lo · May 15, 2018

Wowfunhappy said:
The NES classic is also selling them all as a $60 without the ability to pick and choose. Yes, the online service is too—but that's $20, not $60. And it comes with online multiplayer—which yes used to be free, but it's not now.

I doubt the NES Classic costs much to manufacture, and remember that while the same cost differences could be said for physical vs digital, digital games tend to be more expensive if anything.

So you have no idea about the economics of this stuff, gotcha.

Manufacture is only one aspect, you have R&D, design, coding and of course wholesale and retail distribution is not free and retail needs a decent cut to stock an item. And in the end that's simply not how markets work, costs do not equal value, what people will pay is what something is worth.

And digital new releases are basically only more expensive because of retailer clout, not anything to do with actual costs.

WrenchNinja · May 15, 2018

Good on him. I hope the hacking scene iron out all the kinks.

noyram23 · May 15, 2018

samthebreadman said:
I am the person who made this.

Whew. We're going there with this thread. Folks, I'm not actively pirating anything. All I needed was some dummy data for the launcher to work. This includes boxart pngs and metadata. Nowhere do I have a need for an actual ROM until I get to programming the part where I load a game.

Even then, test ROMs will be homebrew. Not copyrighted games.

Also, on release, every bit of asset like sprites, sounds, ect; that Nintendo owns will be changed to something of my own.

Legality is something I have thought long and hard about.

Can we stop talking about piracy? Does every thread have to end this way?

Don't mind them, homebrew thread usually devolve to them using 'piracy' defense. It's usually the fanboys defending their 'beloved consoles', they'll be eventually warned by mods. Good luck and please share your work after you finished it :) I got a 2nd Switch just for VC.

HstrangeDreaMs · May 15, 2018

Can't you emulate VC for cheap using some 3rd party handhelds, existing mobiles (if android its easy) and PC ? People buying another switch ($300) just for VC looks really strange like they can't do it somewhere else. I doubt these people are buying it just for Piracy to play games free as this is not cheap investment to play some random homebrew and VC with 2D games which they can play from somewhere else easily with enhancements.

martinstraka8282 · May 15, 2018

I would spend so much money on VC, im kind of glad they didnt offer it as ridiculous as that sounds.

Metal Slugger · May 15, 2018

samthebreadman said:
I am the person who made this.

Whew. We're going there with this thread. Folks, I'm not actively pirating anything. All I needed was some dummy data for the launcher to work. This includes boxart pngs and metadata. Nowhere do I have a need for an actual ROM until I get to programming the part where I load a game.

Even then, test ROMs will be homebrew. Not copyrighted games.

Also, on release, every bit of asset like sprites, sounds, ect; that Nintendo owns will be changed to something of my own.

Legality is something I have thought long and hard about.

Can we stop talking about piracy? Does every thread have to end this way?

So people who use your software are only going to use homegrown organic ROMs and definitely not illegally downloaded ones why would you even think that sheesh guys trust me?

Like for real dude, you're making software explicitly for playing illegal ROMs because Nintendo won't let you download Tennis for $5.

NewGuy · May 16, 2018

danm999 said:
I don't get the grandiose tone you're seeing to be honest. I don't think calling a decision a company makes tone deaf is particularly incendiary.

perhaps its just the phrase Nintendont that's got me thinking this way, the phrase has a lot of preconceived baggage in our community, the most relevant in this context being the implication that you are supplying something that Nintendo can't or refuses to supply and I've already stated in my previous comments why I think such justification for hacking on the switch is wrong.

either way, the guy's comments on here have convinced me that no ill intent was intended, perhaps all the Nintendo hysteria on this board lately has got me a little high strung.

I still, however, don't think much of any of this is justified, even if Era hacker here doesn't use the programme he makes for anything malicious that won't stop any number of other people from doing so.

Jahranimo · May 16, 2018

That's really cool OP. Good luck with your project.

Half of the others in this thread. Whew, you all are exhausting. All the fuss over wanting to pay for old games again.

Thatguy · May 16, 2018

Metal Slugger said:
So people who use your software are only going to use homegrown organic ROMs and definitely not illegally downloaded ones why would you even think that sheesh guys trust me?

Like for real dude, you're making software explicitly for playing illegal ROMs because Nintendo won't let you download Tennis for $5.

Well most hacking is done on Windows so really its Microsoft fault, but then again most keyboards hackers use are made of plastic so its the plastic makers fault.

Seriously, its just a tool. what people use it for is their business. You can't blame the tool maker or else it becomes a slippery slope.

Chindogg · May 16, 2018

Thatguy said:
Well most hacking is done on Windows so really its Microsoft fault, but then again most keyboards hackers use are made of plastic so its the plastic makers fault.

Seriously, its just a tool. what people use it for is their business. You can't blame the tool maker or else it becomes a slippery slope.

Man did we really get the guns argument for emulation now?

I'm fine with emulation, but let's not bullshit ourselves as to the real reason why the majority of people have it. It's been the worst kept secret whenever the topic comes up on this forum or the previous one.

samthebreadman · May 16, 2018

Metal Slugger said:
So people who use your software are only going to use homegrown organic ROMs and definitely not illegally downloaded ones why would you even think that sheesh guys trust me?

Like for real dude, you're making software explicitly for playing illegal ROMs because Nintendo won't let you download Tennis for $5.

It is up to the user to make that decision.

dc3k · May 16, 2018

Metal Slugger said:
Like for real dude, you're making software explicitly for playing illegal ROMs because Nintendo won't let you download Tennis for $5.

A bit of a stretch.

RockmanBN · May 16, 2018

Metal Slugger said:
Like for real dude, you're making software explicitly for playing illegal ROMs because Nintendo won't let you download Tennis for $5.

Yeah because that was their full intent.

RedFyn · May 16, 2018

It's unfortunate people have to come in and derail every emulation thread.

samthebreadman said:
I am the person who made this.

Whew. We're going there with this thread. Folks, I'm not actively pirating anything. All I needed was some dummy data for the launcher to work. This includes boxart pngs and metadata. Nowhere do I have a need for an actual ROM until I get to programming the part where I load a game.

Even then, test ROMs will be homebrew. Not copyrighted games.

Also, on release, every bit of asset like sprites, sounds, ect; that Nintendo owns will be changed to something of my own.

Legality is something I have thought long and hard about.

Can we stop talking about piracy? Does every thread have to end this way?

Thanks for getting this going. The switch is such a great device for VC.

Bluelote · May 16, 2018

the mini consoles are no excuse for nintendo.
they are not portable and require another hdmi/power connections and add lots of wires to your living room, also the hardware on the Switch is much better and could deliver better emulation.

fiendcode · May 16, 2018

This looks awesome.

danm999 · May 16, 2018

NewGuy said:
perhaps its just the phrase Nintendont that's got me thinking this way, the phrase has a lot of preconceived baggage in our community, the most relevant in this context being the implication that you are supplying something that Nintendo can't or refuses to supply and I've already stated in my previous comments why I think such justification for hacking on the switch is wrong.

either way, the guy's comments on here have convinced me that no ill intent was intended, perhaps all the Nintendo hysteria on this board lately has got me a little high strung.

I still, however, don't think much of any of this is justified, even if Era hacker here doesn't use the programme he makes for anything malicious that won't stop any number of other people from doing so.

Nintendon't is an old joke from the Genesis days.

It's pretty funny how schlocky it all is actually.

Deleted member 20297 · May 16, 2018

samthebreadman said:
Can we stop talking about piracy?

Yes, please. And can we start talking about how you actually did that? What did you have to do to get this running on the Switch?

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