CFB '17 Offseason |OT| Urban Meyer is pretty much just the worst.

Jabberwocky said:

The advantage in playing a game against an FCS team in week 11 or 12 is that you are basically sliding in a bye week so late in the season when most other teams are playing meaningful games and in the midst of a grind. I don't have much of a problem with it as much as I don't approve of a team like Bama playing a team like The Citadel to begin with, no matter when it happens.

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So when Bama and others are playing a tougher opponent week 1, are they not at a disadvantage because some other teams are playing what is essentially a pre-season game while they risk a loss early on?

It's a zero sum game; play it early or play it late, most everyone plays an FCS team. I couldn't care less when it's played. The claim that Bama and whoever else are getting away with something here is idiotic.

We can absolutely have a convo about whether or not anyone should be playing FCS teams, but the timing complaints are nonsensical.

Texas hasn't played an FCS opponent in over a decade. Hopefully we never play another one.
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I'd be cool with not playing FCS teams. Until the conference changes rules prohibiting it, everyone will because they'd be at a competitive disadvantage not to.

The other thing that might change it is if a team misses out on the postseason because of it. As of now, it hasn't proven to be a deal breaker.

I care more about conferences adding a 9th conference game before getting rid of the FCS game.

Karl2177 said:

I care more about conferences adding a 9th conference game before getting rid of the FCS game.

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This. But in the SEC it just means more (about 12%/game more).

andycapps said:

I'd be cool with not playing FCS teams. Until the conference changes rules prohibiting it, everyone will because they'd be at a competitive disadvantage not to.

The other thing that might change it is if a team misses out on the postseason because of it. As of now, it hasn't proven to be a deal breaker.

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Karl2177 said:

I care more about conferences adding a 9th conference game before getting rid of the FCS game.

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ErnieMcCracken said:

This. But in the SEC it just means more (about 12%/game more).

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There was a solid 5-6 years where Saban would stump for adding another conference game and dropping the FCS schools. Every year the rest of the league would get up in arms and act like their underwear was on fire over it.

I wonder with having some more former coaches in the league now he could try to get more influence.

Honestly I think it boils down to the cost/benefit. It hasn't cost them anyhing and the benefit is about the same as playing any other G5 school.

I am more disappointed in Alabama going double Sun Belt this year along with Louisville maybe not being as competitive next fall.

I know they have already signed new contracts for better G5 opponents, but I don't think the sunbelt teams should've ever been on the docket. I guess a lot of it is Alabama rarely ever doing a Home and Home anymore unless Nick has a personal relationship or it makes sense for recruiting. Which is kind of disappointing from a fan standpoint



Also from a side note, anyone else see the Al.com article on the "Process" that tried to sly turn the process into a capitalism vs socialism referendum? Regardless of your personal stance I found it kind of painful the length the author tried to stretch to make unneeded point.

Karl2177 said:

I care more about conferences adding a 9th conference game before getting rid of the FCS game.

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I wish the SEC would do this too.

No reason we should be playing some teams in the East division as rarely as we do.

Tebunker said:

There was a solid 5-6 years where Saban would stump for adding another conference game and dropping the FCS schools. Every year the rest of the league would get up in arms and act like their underwear was on fire over it.

I wonder with having some more former coaches in the league now he could try to get more influence.

Honestly I think it boils down to the cost/benefit. It hasn't cost them anyhing and the benefit is about the same as playing any other G5 school.

I am more disappointed in Alabama going double Sun Belt this year along with Louisville maybe not being as competitive next fall.

I know they have already signed new contracts for better G5 opponents, but I don't think the sunbelt teams should've ever been on the docket. I guess a lot of it is Alabama rarely ever doing a Home and Home anymore unless Nick has a personal relationship or it makes sense for recruiting. Which is kind of disappointing from a fan standpoint



Also from a side note, anyone else see the Al.com article on the "Process" that tried to sly turn the process into a capitalism vs socialism referendum? Regardless of your personal stance I found it kind of painful the length the author tried to stretch to make unneeded point.

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The other side of this coin is that Saban can stump for a 9th conference game because he doesn't have a permanent OOC P5 conference opponent. He can also stump for it knowing it has little likelihood of becoming a reality in the near future, while still being able to say that he's in support of it. Nobody is stopping him from not playing FCS teams if he feels that strongly about it.

I'm down with 9 conference games though. It would affect those FCS teams that rely on those paydays to have a program, but I think it's best for P5 programs in the long term. Eventually people will get disillusioned enough in paying high ticket prices for games against FCS opponents.

Since they'll never go for pods, I want nine SEC games just so that teams actually play each other. Last year's game against Florida was the first time A&M played an east team for the second time (other than the starter years against Mizzou and our "rival" USCe). Pretty sure we haven't played Georgia at all. Not sure about Kentucky. A rotation that takes 12 years for a set of home- and-homes isn't a conference schedule.

andycapps said:

The other side of this coin is that Saban can stump for a 9th conference game because he doesn't have a permanent OOC P5 conference opponent. He can also stump for it knowing it has little likelihood of becoming a reality in the near future, while still being able to say that he's in support of it. Nobody is stopping him from not playing FCS teams if he feels that strongly about it.

I'm down with 9 conference games though. It would affect those FCS teams that rely on those paydays to have a program, but I think it's best for P5 programs in the long term. Eventually people will get disillusioned enough in paying high ticket prices for games against FCS opponents.

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Other conferences have teams that do have permanent P5 opponents and manage to have 9 game conference schedules. The only SEC team that I can see having trouble with this is Florida because they have both Miami and FSU to play. Sure it gets a little bit stale seeing Iowa every year, but it's still possible to throw in another P5 every few years in addition to the permanent P5 opponent. Even then, there's still no harm in some of these programs scheduling good G5 teams. Toledo made a great G5 opponent for us a few years back.

Ideally we'd get rid of conferences all together and build the top 4-8 teams from the mesh matchups and slap them in a playoff. But hey I ain't in charge.

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Other conferences have teams that do have permanent P5 opponents and manage to have 9 game conference schedules. The only SEC team that I can see having trouble with this is Florida because they have both Miami and FSU to play. Sure it gets a little bit stale seeing Iowa every year, but it's still possible to throw in another P5 every few years in addition to the permanent P5 opponent. Even then, there's still no harm in some of these programs scheduling good G5 teams. Toledo made a great G5 opponent for us a few years back.

Ideally we'd get rid of conferences all together and build the top 4-8 teams from the mesh matchups and slap them in a playoff. But hey I ain't in charge.

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Getting rid of conferences isn't something I'm down with. Part of the appeal of college football to me is the regional nature. 9 conference games and getting rid of FCS games is something I'd be okay with. And even pods within conferences, sure. So long as we can work out the existing rivalries that matter, I'm down.

ryseing said:

The solution to that is to move to pods, not add a 9th conference game.

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They're both viable solutions.

Alabama's SoS looks pretty poor this season.

They have a neutral site game against Louisville w/o Lamar Jackson, Tennessee which finished 0-8 in conference last year, a mediocre Mizzou team that even Texas crushed a few months ago, 2 Fun belt teams, 1 FCS team, and an overall declining SEC west schedule.

May end up being Alabama's weakest schedule in a decade after it's all said and done.

Ron Paul said:

Alabama's SoS looks pretty poor this season.

They have a neutral site game against Louisville w/o Lamar Jackson, Tennessee which finished 0-8 in conference last year, a mediocre Mizzou team that even Texas crushed a few months ago, 2 Fun belt teams, 1 FCS team, and an overall declining SEC west schedule.

May end up being Alabama's weakest schedule in a decade after it's all said and done.

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Is this a comparison to UCF or Wisconsin from last year?

Ron Paul said:

Alabama's SoS looks pretty poor this season.

They have a neutral site game against Louisville w/o Lamar Jackson, Tennessee which finished 0-8 in conference last year, a mediocre Mizzou team that even Texas crushed a few months ago, 2 Fun belt teams, 1 FCS team, and an overall declining SEC west schedule.

May end up being Alabama's weakest schedule in a decade after it's all said and done.

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It's the weakest we've had in a long time on paper, right now.

Obviously, things could shake out differently (our schedule last year was supposed to be pretty solid, but we all know what happened).

@LSU and the Iron Bowl are really the only games that I would say could challenge Alabama. aggy will be breaking in their new coach this year and the Mississippi schools are back down to early 2000's levels. Bert Bullemia was canned so Arky will be breaking in a new coach as well.

Miss. St. has a lot of pieces, could be like 2012 A&M. Still have Bama on top, but I think clanga could beat out the War Tigers for a close second.

Lonestar said:

Fuck, I totally forgot they fired Bert

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Borderline erotic

Ron Paul said:

Alabama's SoS looks pretty poor this season.

They have a neutral site game against Louisville w/o Lamar Jackson, Tennessee which finished 0-8 in conference last year, a mediocre Mizzou team that even Texas crushed a few months ago, 2 Fun belt teams, 1 FCS team, and an overall declining SEC west schedule.

May end up being Alabama's weakest schedule in a decade after it's all said and done.

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but as we all know SOS dont mean shiiiiiiiiiiit now

Gonna be a really interesting year for the SEC with all these new coaches coming in.

You know the Raptors firing their coach the other day and the Lebron James talk gave me mad flashbacks of the SEC lately and how everyone's trying to beat Saban.

Bucknuticus said:

but as we all know SOS dont mean shiiiiiiiiiiit now

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Cute.

102 Days until the season begins. Damn. That feels like forever.

andycapps said:

The other side of this coin is that Saban can stump for a 9th conference game because he doesn't have a permanent OOC P5 conference opponent. He can also stump for it knowing it has little likelihood of becoming a reality in the near future, while still being able to say that he's in support of it. Nobody is stopping him from not playing FCS teams if he feels that strongly about it.

I'm down with 9 conference games though. It would affect those FCS teams that rely on those paydays to have a program, but I think it's best for P5 programs in the long term. Eventually people will get disillusioned enough in paying high ticket prices for games against FCS opponents.

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Look at Andy up in here talking all big and shit about an "OOC P5 conference opponent" like he's UF playing FSU, Notre Dame playing USC, or even Iowa playing Iowa State. Y'all play Georgia Tech. Watch for chop blocks and coast on into the post season.

UW had to play Rutgers, y'all can't say shit to me

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UW had to play Rutgers, y'all can't say shit to me

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And to think, UW could have played UW. If only UW weren't such jackasses for backing out!

Rowlf said:

Look at Andy up in here talking all big and shit about an "OOC P5 conference opponent" like he's UF playing FSU, Notre Dame playing USC, or even Iowa playing Iowa State. Y'all play Georgia Tech. Watch for chop blocks and coast on into the post season.

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Hey I'm not saying Georgia Tech is a great program, but they're P5. And if they ever get the balls to fire Johnson, they could improve. Also, playing the triple option beats up your defense for the potential SEC Championship game one week later.

An interesting story out of Clemson where a few former players robbed a fellow current football player. What's interesting is that they knew exactly where all the cash was. And how this student had such a large amount of cash. Maximum sentence for their charges is 35 years.

Ohio State Michigan back on Fox this year, means more gus johnson

YOU GOT BBQ BACK THERE

Good thing I've already got a BBQ party scheduled for Saturday.

AquaRegia said:

Good thing I've already got a BBQ party scheduled for Saturday.

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You making brisket or pulled pork?

andycapps said:

You making brisket or pulled pork?

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Schichtfleisch. Sorta turns out like pulled pork, but takes half the time. Here's a link to my previous cook of it:
https://www.kamadoguru.com/topic/37896-schichtfleisch-aus-dem-kamado/

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Good forum for general BBQ info, even if it's geared to the kamado style.

AquaRegia said:

Schichtfleisch. Sorta turns out like pulled pork, but takes half the time. Here's a link to my previous cook of it:
https://www.kamadoguru.com/topic/37896-schichtfleisch-aus-dem-kamado/



Good forum for general BBQ info, even if it's geared to the kamado style.

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I have never heard of that but that seems like a very German thing, meat with meat haha. Looks tasty though. I smoked some brisket last weekend. Felt good to get the smoker going again.

AquaRegia said:

Schichtfleisch. Sorta turns out like pulled pork, but takes half the time. Here's a link to my previous cook of it:
https://www.kamadoguru.com/topic/37896-schichtfleisch-aus-dem-kamado/



Good forum for general BBQ info, even if it's geared to the kamado style.

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Wow that's pretty awesome way to do a bbq style. You use loin? Shoulder? Butt? It looked like loin.

We used our instantpot to do a shoulder not too long ago. Worked great.

Cooked a brisket on my last camping trip, all day over a fire, off center of the main heat, wrapped tight in aluminum fooil and then put in a pan with a tight lid. Added a smidge of liquid to keep it from burning. We were probably a little too drunk and needed to flip it once or twice more. Got a slightly hard cap on it but rest of the meat was perfect. Was proud of our group because we spent that whole day playing disc golf and we weren't around the fire at all that day.

I used a loin, though many of the recipes called for pork neck. Didn't know if that was a bad translation or a cut of meat not common to me. The loin worked great, as the dutch oven means you keep all the juices.

Ohh if it translated to neck it probably meant shoulder. Even then a pinic ham or spareribs would work. Looking at the video and now some searching that neck cut is like the front cap on the shoulder so you get a good mix of marbling.

The Loin and Chops don't usually get you that fall apart/pull apart meat as easily since they don't have as much fat.


After looking at the page you linked I am thinking I want to do something similar. Man I can talk bbq all day

Jesus, Aqua. That looks delicious and now I'm hungry. You're an ass. :(

Rowlf said:

Jesus, Aqua. That looks delicious and now I'm hungry. You're an ass. :(

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I have said time and again that the podcast needs a BBQ or tailgate segment. I have no idea if they've ever done one since my podcast app refuses to acknowledge their existence, so I can't really listen, but the suggestion remains.

I'm down for some BBQ in here. Some beef ribs I smoked:



Own a Big Green Egg and it does quite a nice job.

AquaRegia said:

I have said time and again that the podcast needs a BBQ or tailgate segment. I have no idea if they've ever done one since my podcast app refuses to acknowledge their existence, so I can't really listen, but the suggestion remains.

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Unfortunately it would be me talking to myself if we did a BBQ segment.

andycapps said:

Unfortunately it would be me talking to myself if we did a BBQ segment.

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Need a rotating chair then, cause damn it looks like we got enough people who'd gladly hop on for a segment on tailgating stuff.

"Talkin' Tailgating with Tom"

You're welcome.

We can have the Brew and BBQ section where lonestar and Az can sit quietly.

Bucknuticus said:

We can have the Brew and BBQ section where lonestar and Az can sit quietly.

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I drink beer, I'm not a homebrew nerd like you.

It's like the '27 Yankees, but the complete opposite.

Oh hey I found this thread again. Anyone else been playing CFB Risk?

https://vote.redditcfb.com/cfbrisk.php

Tebunker said:

Need a rotating chair then, cause damn it looks like we got enough people who'd gladly hop on for a segment on tailgating stuff.

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Not a bad idea. The best idea is me randomly unmuting people in the live audience.