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The Gif That Keeps on Giffing
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J-Skee

The Wise Ones
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Oct 25, 2017
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Something I was thinking about earlier: are people expecting them to continue with a number-based naming scheme for the sequels (e.g. God of War 2), or something else? I feel like they've kind of shied away from that by calling this one simply "God of War." I was thinking they could go with something like "God of War: Fimbulwinter" and "God of War: Ragnarok" if they decide to go with subtitles. "Fimbulwinter" is maybe a bit esoteric, but "Ragnarok" should be pretty recognizable.
I feel like they can still do numbered, with the next title would being something like God of War II (2020).
 

Dust

C H A O S
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Oct 25, 2017
32,717
How can people doubt that Atreus is Kratos' biological son when game beats you over and over with that.
He even has Spartan Rage.
 

Death Penalty

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
3,318
Well according to Norse mythology, Magni is the strongest Aesir god so he is stronger than Thor who is stronger than Odin. So if Kratos could beat Magni, he has no difficulty beating anyone else,, unless this game is using sorting power in the opposite side. :p
They're definitely not cleaving that close to Norse myth with this, Thor is clearly a greater threat than Magni. After the massive liberties they took with Baldur and Loki, this isn't much of a surprise though.
 

PLASTICA-MAN

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Oct 26, 2017
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They're definitely not cleaving that close to Norse myth with this, Thor is clearly a greater threat than Magni. After the massive liberties they took with Baldur and Loki, this isn't much of a surprise though.

Well i don't think there is massive liberty with Loki and Baldur. Loki is still following the myth being Laufey and Farbauti's son and there is one version of the Norse stories depicting Baldur as eveil and is even mentioned in the wikia. I think making Magni and Modi die in this game and not surviving the Ragnarok is the biggest liberty they took. Unless they aren't really dead, because we still have no confirmation for their deaths anyway.
 

Death Penalty

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
3,318
Well i don't think there is massive liberty with Loki and Baldur. Loki is still following the myth being Laufey and Farbauti's son and there is one version of the Norse stories depicting Baldur as eveil and is even mentioned in the wikia. I think making Magni and Modi die in this game and not surviving the Ragnarok is the biggest liberty they took. Unless they aren't really dead, because we still have no confirmation for their deaths anyway.
There's also the fact that every bad thing a giant has ever done is just a lie spread by Odin and numerous other liberties. This game is not close to Norse myth, it's a work inspired by Norse myth. That's not a shot against it, it's a very excellent work. You just probably can't look at actual myth and judge the power levels of anybody, including Magni who was basically just a mid game boss of no particular consequence rather than the son of Thor who surpasses his father and survives Ragnarok.
 

lmcfigs

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,091
I'm pretty sure that Mimir doesn't see or hear her at all, and is drawing his conclusions from what Kratos says. So,my assumption is that Athena is completely in his head, and is his self doubt manifest.
Now that would be ridiculous. I don't care how distraught you are, nobody who is sane talks to themselves or hallucinates like that.
 

Much

The Gif That Keeps on Giffing
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Yeah, I'll repost some gifs here since some probably haven't seen them.
 

VaporSnake

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Posted this one before way back, but I just love how chaotic this area was.

Honestly wish we could go back to this area, musphelheim is close, but something about just having every enemy in the game thrown at you in quick succession in this area was such a rush, especially that it comes at the perfect moment where you're probably really comfortable mixing up the Axe and the Blades together.
 
Oct 25, 2017
11,594
Urgh that giant gif is triggering me.

This game really suffered from enemy variety for a game this long.

Werewolf and great sword dude were like the last notable enemy types. Only like 3 types of big dudes too.

Bummer you don't fight those 2 statues at the place where you flip the travel room.
 

Kufkah

Permanently banned for usage of an alt-account.
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Oct 26, 2017
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Now that would be ridiculous. I don't care how distraught you are, nobody who is sane talks to themselves or hallucinates like that.
Schizophrenia isn't out of the question for Kratos, between Athena visions in GoW2018/GoW3 and the way he killed his family.
 

MonkeySleeve

Member
Nov 15, 2017
589
Finished the game tonight, what a journey it was. I was absolutely set on exploring every last part and got most of the sidequest before i finished the main story. The Valkeries were awesome to fight but by doing so you get some amazing perks that really make things easier late game.
 

III-V

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Oct 25, 2017
18,827
There's one thing that's been pestering me since I finished the game.


This game leaves nothing to chance, it obsesses over the tiniest details to convey hints and foreshadow future events.

So when you're actually getting the Blades of Chaos, Athena is mocking you saying "Pretend you're everything you are not... Teacher (no reaction from Kratos), Husband (no reaction from Kratos), ---- long pause---- Father (here Kratos turns to her like she struck a nerve)".

I can't shake the feeling that this is hinting to the fact that Kratos is not, in fact, Atreus' biological father.
That's something to think about.
 

DJwest

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,195
Turned off the console as soon as I saw the health bar of the queen of Valkyries lol. I'm paying in "give me a challenge" difficulty and I'm not ready for that stress tonight lol
 
Oct 25, 2017
11,594
Hmmm are valkyrie strong in the lore? At least compare to the gods in this game haha.

Felt like every story fight was simple on normal, including baldr. Only death was against the first troll dude
 

lmcfigs

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
12,091
The only thing I knew about Valkeries before this game was from that episode of Courage the Cowardly dog. And aside from being women, everything was different.
 

Spartancarver

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 27, 2017
3,453
This game got me listening to Amon Amarth again lol

I'm pretty sure that Mimir doesn't see or hear her at all, and is drawing his conclusions from what Kratos says. So,my assumption is that Athena is completely in his head, and is his self doubt manifest.

This is confirmed in the game. Mimir asks Kratos who he was talking to in his hut.
 

Boy

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Apr 24, 2018
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I think it was a nice touch that the enemies in this game all have some kind of introduction to them when you see them for the first time.
 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
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Oct 28, 2017
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Well no. Tyr's body is apparent and this is not a decoration (dunno how you can say this, the decoration is only on the outer frame). It can't be a random decoartion because it would be irrelevent. That is clealry the ttwirling body of the snake with clear scales in the background hence looking smaller. Like I kept saying carving into iron is much harder than painting on a wall. You have to carve all parts together otherwise the iron parts would fall if they are not stitched together in one piece unlike just paint where you can paint separate parts or even floating ones while not fearing for anything to fall apart while in solids it has to be supported by other basis that is why you see the body of the snake in the background encrusted and hooked to the body of Tyr in the foreground.

Here I highlighted the body of Tyr. His body is apparent with the same pattern of his armor covering his body. I can't understand how you could confuse it with the body with of the snake in the background because of you add that part to the body of Tyr, he would look like a complete mutant being that bloated.
Because that only leaves the striped portion to represent Tyr's torso, which makes him look fairly strange. That, and the position you're implying he's taken and where his arm is anatomically bizarre. But sure, okay, it could be that that's all there is to his torso here. After all, it's not like they're aiming for 100% anatomical accuracy.

I'm considering the possibility that those curves are only decorative because there are other sections that seem to really just be decorative, such as the long and pointy bit between Tyr's supposed torso (the striped part) and his arm that's partially covered by his spear.

Also, I'm pretty sure an iron sculpture can stand on its own while only being partially complete so long as it has something to stand on. In this case, since it's on the wall, it won't need something to stand on. It's part of the wall.
Also the snake head is in the background that is why he looks much bigger than the body like I explained. In fact the snake has the same spiky mane you see in te other paintings and also the same exact eye shape:
You think the head of this creature is in the background...? And that being in the background makes something look bigger? That's not how perspective works.
But to be closer in comparison, we need to compare engraving on iron like there. And in the temple entrance itself there is a big iron engraving showing the snake with the same eye, spiky mane and teeth as the iron engraving on Brok's shop. The art book also shows it and you can check it and post if you want.
There is no doubt now that this is the snake.
If you are not able to see it now, then I am sorry, it can't be helped.
You mean this?

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They're different, just look at the snout. The upper portion is longer than the lower portion, which isn't the case for the one at Brok's Shop. As for the eyes, they're the same shape as Tyr's as well, so it's not really a distinguishing feature. This one also clearly has scales, whereas the former does not. This one is almost certainly the World Serpent, especially since it seems to encircle the temple. The one at Brok's Shop, though? It looks more like a canine, and given that Tyr is stabbing it, it's likely Garm.
Man, as cool as this execution is, I really wish each Troll being unique meant each had their own execution. Real shame.
I think it was a nice touch that the enemies in this game all have some kind of introduction to them when you see them for the first time.
Did the Wulvers get an introduction? I don't seem to recall any.
 

Host Samurai

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Oct 27, 2017
12,235
I thought the enemy variety was on par with the previous games. The boss variety or at least the set piece boss variety wasn't.
 

rusty chrome

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,640
I thought the enemy variety was on par with the previous games. The boss variety or at least the set piece boss variety wasn't.
I also don't think it would have made sense in the story to fight so many bosses in their very first journey together, especially if we're talking killing Gods. God of War 1 was the same way on PS2, except this game had wayyyyy more fights in general. In God of War 1, the only God we kill is Ares, and the story goes from there.
 
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Lunatic

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A shame the valkyries are mere arena challenges instead of story characters throughout the game because you won't see them this up close and detailed in the game. Scenes like you made here should have been their introduction scene when you enter their chamber haha.


Truth. First I ever saw or even heard of a valkyrie was at the end of the Muspel trials. I walked up to it thinking it was some weird egg thing, only for her to emerge from her wings and promptly tear me a new rectum.

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Ciphyde

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Nov 22, 2017
347
There's one thing that's been pestering me since I finished the game.


This game leaves nothing to chance, it obsesses over the tiniest details to convey hints and foreshadow future events.

So when you're actually getting the Blades of Chaos, Athena is mocking you saying "Pretend you're everything you are not... Teacher (no reaction from Kratos), Husband (no reaction from Kratos), ---- long pause---- Father (here Kratos turns to her like she struck a nerve)".

I can't shake the feeling that this is hinting to the fact that Kratos is not, in fact, Atreus' biological father.
Because Kratos isnt that good of father at the beginning to Atreus so Athena was mocking him saying that he should stop trying to be. Atreus is the last thing he has left, of course it struck a nerve. Why would they make a whole game off of a father/son relationship - only to make Atreus not his actual biological son? Would be a pretty shitty twist
 

thisismadness

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Oct 25, 2017
4,485
Yeah, I thought the game had a decent variety of enemies. I think it feels like there arent many because they really front load their introductions. I also thought they did a good of mixing/matching different combinations of them to help freshen things up.
 

rusty chrome

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
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Because Kratos isnt that good of father at the beginning to Atreus so Athena was mocking him saying that he should stop trying to be. Atreus is the last thing he has left, of course it struck a nerve. Why would they make a whole game off of a father/son relationship - only to make Atreus not his actual biological son? Would be a pretty shitty twist
That and Cory already confirmed Atreus is Kratos's biological son. Nothing to speculate about there.
 

OrdinaryPrime

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Oct 27, 2017
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Now that would be ridiculous. I don't care how distraught you are, nobody who is sane talks to themselves or hallucinates like that.

Why would Athena show up because of the Blades of Chaos? They weren't the blades she herself gave Kratos in God of War III. If she isn't a figment of his imagination, it makes no sense for her to appear.
 

Host Samurai

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Oct 27, 2017
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I also don't think it would have made sense in the story to fight so many bosses in their very first journey together, especially if we're talking killing Gods. God of War 1 was the same way on PS2, except this game had wayyyyy more fights in general. In God of War 1, the only God we kill is Ares, and the story goes from there.

Some non god boss fights would have been nice. Like how they handled it in GoW2. That game didn't hold back when it came to boss fights that were interesting. You get to fight the Colossi of Rhodes, Medusa's sister, The Kraken and even Persus. That's not even counting the SoF and Zeus.
 

crimzonflame

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Oct 25, 2017
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Should I upgrade my weapons to the max before tackling the end game? Also should I finish Niflheim and the other extra realm before fighting the Valkyries?
 

Strings

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Oct 27, 2017
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Thought Thor's sons were pretty poor characters (though having Troy Baker and Nolan North voice them is rad), Atreus's god complex was really rushed and kind of hokey (compared to the rest of his development), and that the epilogue was awful outside of its 'rule of cool' appeal (Atreus looking the same, a cut that bridges years).

The rest was fab. The dwarves, Mimir and Freya all tied in thematically and were exceptionally realized (Mimir's nipple story was especially hilarious). The pacing was great (okay, until the last 1/5 - I could have done without flipping the temple and entering the world serpent (though I can see how excrutiatingly difficult it would be to cut this idea once you've had it)), Kratos and Atreus earned their relationship (and there were a bunch of nice swerves, like Kratos unloading re: his godhood during a lowkey moment, instead of saving it for a big sequence), and the execution of the blades scene was god-tier.

Baldur was... Okay. His mommy issues tie in nicely in terms of theme, but his 'thirsting for feeling' sctick was too one note. That said, it's exceptionally hard to build a villain when you don't leave the protagonist's POV, and he served his role in the story just fine. Keeping Odin, Tyr and Thor (until he isn't) offscreen was a great decision.

But yeah, real gud game. Everyone involved put in tremendous work, and it really, really shows.
 

Spartancarver

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Oct 27, 2017
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It's amazing how easy the first Valkyrie fight is on repeat playthroughs after you've already beaten the Queen. I like how each Valk progressively has more and more moves for you to learn, leading up to the Queen. But the first Valkyrie seems to only have the blockable and highly telegraphed moves, and is almost humorously easy even on Challenge mode.
 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
Moderator
Oct 28, 2017
13,534
I thought the game had a good variety of enemies to fight. My only complaint, as many others have also said, would be the variety between the Trolls. I enjoyed all those fights, and I didn't mind that they were reused, reskinned, and slightly retooled, but it was too much by the end. Especially so for the Helheim Troll, "Helson." It's a lot more disappointing after hearing the devs (or was it Sid Shuman in that one PlayStation Underground video...?) talk about how each Troll had its own story and that each was unique, etc. Sure, they looked different and fought slightly differently, but they had the same face, body, and totem. It would have been way cooler to have them in different sizes and use different items as "totems" and really change up their faces and bodies.

The boss variety was alright too, and I never felt like there should have been more bosses than what we got. It felt natural to the story that they only encountered that much and in those locations. The Dark Elf King was disappointing, though. And I suppose I do wish the final boss was much more different compared to the first boss.
 

Anbec

One Winged Slayer
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Oct 26, 2017
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So what was on the last panel that Kratos saw on the paintings from the giants? I'm still reading this thread but that thing resonated a lot it seemed kind of bad..

God! I just want the sequel now :( keep the experience and improve those areas that felt weird on the game