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EJS

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I think this announcement says more about Nintendo trying to revitalize SF than anything else. Leave it to their best western developer to reestablish the franchise.
 

zoukka

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I love it when VG-industry (aka people in the know) Era users start talking about rumors like they are facts.

Like " Ive known about this for months but somebody else spilled the beans and cat is out of the bag, I'll just proceed to talk about it casually"

Those against the rumor, you better start getting over it, it's done

My "insider" knowledge about Retro is 0%, that was pure speculation and common sense. If you develop a racing game in the Star Fox IP, you are most likely using vehicles and ships from that IP. It's not some wild fan theory lol.
 

Anteo

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I prefer we get from Retro:

1) DKC 3, a continuation of Tropical Freeze (2D gameplay)
2) DKC 3D, a new DKC game in 3D
3) Donkey Kong Racing - with animal buddies

If they are moving away from dk its probably because of the same reason they moved away from metroid. They wanted something new to work in.
 
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One of my buddies who is a huge Ninty fan told me about a resume where it had a horror game on it and this was about Retro. Decided to Google it and found this news. It would be a shame if they cancel a seemingly new IP though. Unless it's Eternal Darkness 2, that's not a new IP, still a shame though.
If ED2 is the canceled project I...I think I'll cry :( are we sure it's canceled though?
 

deep_dish

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I wonder if the cast of Star Fox is enough for a racing game?

There are plenty of characters besides the main four (Krystal, Kat, Bill, Gen. Pepper, Star Wolf Team) plus I'm sure they will create some new ones.

I'm actually most interested, at this point, in seeing the Retro's design for Fox & team. And of course the most pressing question - which Fox design makes it to Smash ??
 

Gartooth

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If leaks, rumors and announcements are to be believed we are not too far from away a new Smash game, mainline Pokemon in HD, Metroid Prime 4, Star Fox and a fucking Ridge Racer.

In a parallel universe real gamers TM would be happy about that.

What we got is anger, outrage and concern trolling.

I'm just getting sick and tired of this bullshit gaming community.

I'm likewise, starting to feel very worn on this community. That vitriol and anger are regular operating procedure here is shameful.

I just feel bad for game developers now.
 

Skittzo

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So part of me is wondering exactly how different from traditional Star Fox this game might be.

Like, imagine a standard linear Star Fox level. The only difference between that and a Star Fox level with racing in my mind is that you'd be competing against other pilots in the latter, and probably holding the boost as much as you can. Other than that the levels will probably be structured the same. Maybe with a few more turns, and maybe repeated laps, but beyond that I think the structure can remain the same.

It could even be possible that the game's story mode is about this "Grand Prix" and not all of the missions are actually races within the Grand Prix. Maybe there will be some standard Star Fox levels complete with standard boss battles.

The more I think about it the more this concept really intrigues me. I think it's going to be extremely unique, and probably have a fantastic showing. I just hope it actually makes E3 this year.
 

Aramon

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If leaks, rumors and announcements are to be believed we are not too far from away a new Smash game, mainline Pokemon in HD, Metroid Prime 4, Star Fox and a fucking Ridge Racer.

In a parallel universe real gamers TM would be happy about that.

What we got is anger, outrage and concern trolling.

I'm just getting sick and tired of this bullshit gaming community.

Same thoughts. It's also interesting to see how these Nintendo related threads always stay open and shit is allowed to flow.

Constructive criticism is fine but when it's mostly hyperbole, vitriolic, jumping to conclusions it's getting annoying.

Compared to say Edge God of War 8 review and that was locked 20 pages, but here the things just keep going.
 

Braaier

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I'm likewise, starting to feel very worn on this community. That vitriol and anger are regular operating procedure here is shameful.

I just feel bad for game developers now.
Yeah it's pretty terrible. Some of these people just want the same iterative game over and over and over again. Retro is allegedly putting a new spin on a classic Nintendo ip. Shouldn't we be excited for this?

I am and I'm excited to hear it will be more story focused. I could never get into mario kart single player but I really enjoyed Diddy long racing for the adventure mode. Really looking forward to this!
 

Skittzo

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How do we even know Adventure Mode will even be racing?

Exactly. I'm betting it'll be heavily based around racing but not necessarily all of it. I'm not sure how boss battles would work during a race.

We gotta wait for more information on this, it could be very different from what most people are imagining.
 

Christo750

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The possibility of Eternal Darkness 2 being cancelled is really upsetting :(

Where did Eternal Darkness 2 come from? I thought the other report on the game in development hell (from that one-up guy) was that Miyamoto thought about appropriating a Nintendo IP to it. Why would it be Eternal Darkness 2?
 

Wiifitkid

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It would be really cool if a few F Zero characters were added into the roster or maybe animal versions or them.
 

Dark Cloud

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Exactly. I'm betting it'll be heavily based around racing but not necessarily all of it. I'm not sure how boss battles would work during a race.

We gotta wait for more information on this, it could be very different from what most people are imagining.
Yeah. The Dasvergen person said it's similar to DKR, but didn't give details. Eurogamer only said they heard similar details.
 

Puru

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Oct 28, 2017
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Are the f zero drivers human? F zero and metroid could work, if so. But where do the furries come in?
F-Zero has a octopus, a t-rex, pretty sure there's also a wolf and a monkey. The F-Zero cast is pretty varied to the point of being kinda nonsensical which i guess is why it's not really liked.
 

K Samedi

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I don't think its Eternal Darkness, that game doesn't need a lot of innovation or gameplay systems. A good story and a good, decent combat system with insanity effects and your good. I cant imagine that kind of game being in development hell within a talented studio as Retro. It must have been some kind of new idea that didn't turn out that well.
 

Boy Wander

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This thread is going according to form. Thank god nobody in this thread has any kind of say in what kind of games get made and which get shit-canned. Let's all just wait and see how this turns out before we start embarrassing ourselves.
 

Glio

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With what they sell today, let's be serious, Nintendo is not going to make a horror game.

With getting SEGA to make a port of Alien: Isolation and maybe finance a new Project Zero they are fine
 

scojitsu

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Could this rumoured game actually be F-Zero starring Fox McLeod and supporting characters from the Star Fox universe?
 

Dark Cloud

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With what they sell today, let's be serious, Nintendo is not going to make a horror game.

With getting SEGA to make a port of Alien: Isolation and maybe finance a new Project Zero they are fine
Just like they wouldn't make a new Star Fox game, right?

These hottakes are hilarious. They'll make a new Eternal Darkness if someone gives a good pitch.
 

Glio

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Just like they wouldn't make a new Star Fox game, right?

These hottakes are hilarious. They'll make a new Eternal Darkness if someone gives a good pitch.

A racing game has a potential sales higher than a horror game.


Nintendo experimented in Game Cube with ips "adult" and it did not work, that's why it has not returned to them.
 

Cup O' Tea?

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Why a racing game?

Nintendo got it right with Lylat Wars and ever since then they've been tinkering way too much with Star Fox. I don't know why they think they need to reinvent the wheel every time they make a new game in this franchise.
 

ConanEdogawa

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Oct 31, 2017
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I feel better about this today. I'm willing to give Retro the benefit of the doubt, but the mention about internal troubles and a project possibly getting canceled have me worried. Wish E3 was a lot closer.
 
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