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Sander VF

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Also, I don't believe this is something we needed. MK8 was already pretty futuristic with its anti-gravity. And I hoped for a proper MK9 for Switch. I also dreamt about a new F-Zero, even faster and more spectacular than F-Zero GX. This SF GP sounds like lost somewhere in between those two, just with an IP I personally don't like.
The inherent problem with this discussion is that we don't actually know what a Star Fox racer really entails.

You imagine a straightforward futuristic racing game or a kart game, i imagine Arwings and equivalent crafts roaring through nebulas, asteroid fields, solar flares, dyson swarms while simultenously trying to shoot down each other and the obstacle enemies (even bosses) getting in their way.
 

Ephonk

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You imagine a straightforward futuristic racing game or a kart game, i imagine Arwings and equivalent crafts roaring through nebulas, asteroid fields, solar flares, dyson swarms while simultenously trying to shoot down each other and the obstacle enemies (even bosses) getting in their way.
Yeah, if it includes shooting and/or different online modes that go beyond standard racing it'll be a thing on its own.

People often don't know what they want. A soccer game but with cars instead of people, who would want to play that?
 

Dark Cloud

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I've watched multiple YouTube videos where they said "yeah I had sources that told me this too". Wtf how many peoole had "sources" on this game?

Does everyone in the media share the same source??
 

Sander VF

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Yeah, if it includes shooting and/or different online modes that go beyond standard racing it'll be a thing on its own.

People often don't know what they want. A soccer game but with cars instead of people, who would want to play that?
If it has long A to B race (instead of short races with laps. Imagine Space Dakar with 20-30 minute races), each race could be a whole set piece laden adventure where you get to participate in crazy shit on your way to the finish.

Like imagine two racers locked in a deadly dogfight and then a giant space worm boss attacks as they temporarily join forces to take it down.

I'm going in too deep with my fanfiction, but just imagine.

And your Rocket League example is great.
 
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The thought that Star Fox will exist on the expense of F Zero and Mario Kart is understandable because its dumb, but still...

its dumb.
 

Dark Cloud

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I wanted to add no reputable source has said the name of the game is Star Fox Grand Prix. Eurogamer only said they've heard of the game, but not sure of the name.

I guess there's a chance the name is different for those who don't like it.

Unless that logo was real, but did IGN really get it themselves?
 
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Sander VF

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I wanted to add no reputable source has said the name of the game is Star Fox Grand Prix. Eurogamer only said they've heard of the game, but not sure of the name.

I guess there's a chance the name is different for those who don't like it.
The only negative here would be that the supposed logo had an Arwing in it.

I want this to be a space racer with Arwings lol.
 

Tregard

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If it has long A to B race (instead of short races with laps. Imagine Space Dakar with 20-30 minute races), each race could be a whole set piece laden adventure where you get to participate in crazy shit on your way to the finish.

Like imagine two racers locked in a deadly dogfight and then a giant space worm boss attacks as they temporarily join forces to take it down.

I'm going in too deep with my fanfiction, but just imagine.

Shit, now you got me thinking it'll include elements of Split//Second

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Potterson

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I mean, it's Retro. The idea of racing Starfox games sounds weird. But it's Retro.

Also, Emily Rogers said earlier this month that it's some "unique genre". So I doubt they will just give us traditional racer. It must be something more.
 

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I mean, it's Retro. The idea of racing Starfox games sounds weird. But it's Retro.

Also, Emily Rogers said earlier this month that it's some "unique genre". So I doubt they will just give us traditional racer. It must be something more.

Did I say that? I only remember saying that I heard it was an old IP being placed in a new genre.
 

Coolwhip

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So is it racing in cars or flying? Flying doesn't sound very fun to me. Racing not either though, but we shall see. Still wish it was Starfox Adventures 2.
 

Sander VF

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But if it DOES end up playing like F-Zero I'll have to sympathize with F-Zero fans and join them in wondering it couldn't have been that instead.

Sure, 90% of character designs are garbage/ unappealing, but you could easily fix that.
 

softfocus

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In Retro I trust. If this game is real, I bet it'll be fucking amazing.
Kinda makes me wish it was Retro who made the mainline Star Fox rather than Platinum/Nintendo. But hey, if this does well that dream may come true.
 
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But if it DOES end up playing like F-Zero I'll have to sympathize with F-Zero fans and join them in wondering it couldn't have been that instead.

Sure, 90% of character designs are garbage/ unappealing, but you could easily fix that.

I'm a F-Zero fan and I'm not crazy enough to think Star Fox is gonna exist on the expense of Fzero.

And I'm hella crazy.
 

K Samedi

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Im kinda thinking it will be much more of a traditional Star Fox game but with a focus on speed. You will have shooting and flying trough rings for boosts and dodge rolls and stuff, yet your main objective will be to get to the finish as fat as you can, whatever the track may be. I think there will be different vehicles like tanks and submarines too. So the racing theme could work well for this IP. Initially I thought it would be a horrible idea but after reading posts and thinking about it a little, Im kind of excited, especially with this coming out of Retro.
 

Ocarina_117

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May be as Star Fox nears completion some of the studio can move over to the second project and bring together something worthy of the studio :)
 
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Isnt star fox and fzero the same universe to begin with?

Why not have it be "starfox x fzero" Where the singleplayer part is about Fox getting into racing as a newcomer?

But have it be F-Zero.

And 100 racer 60fps multiplayer.
 

lowlifelenny

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Someone needs to do an academic study to see whether Nintendo fans are inherently crazy, or if it's Nintendo that drives people to madness.

Metroid fans are loopy, that's for sure. And I say that as a Metroid fan.

Which is why, after three Prime games, Retro project news is always followed by passionate reactions both positive and negative.

No one wants to be the first one leaking. Someone just opened the floodgates.

Precisely. Nobody wants to be traced back as the source of the leak and catch the blame for it, because they can get in serious trouble and lose industry privileges or even their job.

Once it's public, everyone else with the same information doesn't really stand to lose anything by keeping quiet.

So is it racing in cars or flying? Flying doesn't sound very fun to me. Racing not either though, but we shall see.

My guess is it'll be something like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDi_61LYEHs

But with chequered flags and shooting at each other while we listen to this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AopyArJuwZM
 

Dark Cloud

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Those trademarks from yesterday shows F-Zero game may be coming. A whole bunch of trademarks were made, but F-Zero, Star Fox, Smash and Pikmin had different patents.

Just to show those who want F-Zero it might be coming since we know Smash and Pikmin are real. Star Fox is basically real.
 

Tregard

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Those trademarks from yesterday shows F-Zero game may be coming. A whole bunch of trademarks were made, but F-Zero, Star Fox, Smash and Pikmin had different patents.

Just to show those who want F-Zero it might be coming since we know Smash and Pikmin are real. Star Fox is basically real.

Just playing devil's advocate, could Nintendo properly support three racing franchises? Could they all co-exist without stepping on each other's toes?
 

Gold Arsene

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May be as Star Fox nears completion some of the studio can move over to the second project and bring together something worthy of the studio :)

You know I wish you guys who keep saying stuff like this would fill me in on what "worthy" means. Or why this particular project isn't "worthy."

Can't have them working on a genre/IP that you dislik- I mean isn't worth the developers time.
 

Baji Boxer

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I've never played anything from Retro ( got Metroid Prime Trilogy in my backlog right now ). Have they ever made a bad game?
 

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Metroid fans are loopy, that's for sure. And I say that as a Metroid fan.
I can't deny that. I will never forget going into Metroid-centric forums when Prime 1 was announced and reading the bashing from a bunch of people on the fact that the game was being made by ''dumb americans'', good times.
Ok not really, but it is somewhat nostalgic in a weird way, got a flashback to that on the Bandai Namco Singapore Prime 4 rumor thread.
 

Dark Cloud

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Just playing devil's advocate, could Nintendo properly support three racing franchises? Could they all co-exist without stepping on each other's toes?
The person who told me Retro is contributing in a small way to MPT for Switch also told me racing games are coming to Switch from Nintendo.

If you read Takahashi and Koizumis quotes from last year it sounded like they want to bring back a lot of old IP's.

As long as all the racing games play different I don't see why.
 

Sander VF

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Just playing devil's advocate, could Nintendo properly support three racing franchises? Could they all co-exist without stepping on each other's toes?
If 2D platformer franchises can, then why not?

Wave Race for jet ski racing

F-Zero for futuristic racing

Star Fox for spaceship racing

Excite Truck for offroad racing

Exclusive Ridge Racer for on road racing

Mario Kart for... Mario kart.
 
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