Nintendo First-Party Thread

Deleted member 33 · May 15, 2018

Instro said:
Probably no proof that it's actually the same person. Keep in mind that Harman Smith(the posters original name, which was the same as the youtuber in question) is a character from Killer 7, so it could easily have been a mistaken identity.

Yup, we can't ban someone for having the same name as a video game character. Also, Harman Smith isn't some minor character in Killer 7, he's a major character.

I was the person who changed his username to Killer751. He explained the situation to me and the other admins. He did not sound like Harman Smith from that YouTube channel/Twitter account (at all). I would know because I've dealt with that YouTuber in the past, and he was a real jerk.

Tregard · May 15, 2018

Chalfonts said:
The thing that's confusing me

Pokemon wont be revealed in the direct

Smash wasn't revealed in the direct

3DS games wont be included in the direct

2019 games wont be included in the direct

So what's in the direct?

- Lots of Smash details and characters we still wouldn't be aware of
- Some extra Pokémon details
- Star Fox Grand Prix
- Fire Emblem
- Animal Crossing
- Pikmin 4
- Mario Maker Deluxe / New 2D Mario
- eShop exclusive stuff
- Fortnite, Travis Strikes Again, Switch footage of whatever is announced by Bethesda/Squeenix

Lots of potential.

Coolwhip · May 15, 2018

Chalfonts said:
The thing that's confusing me

Pokemon wont be revealed in the direct

Smash wasn't revealed in the direct

3DS games wont be included in the direct

2019 games wont be included in the direct

So what's in the direct?

10 minutes of Reggie dancing to "Never gonna give you up".

Dark Cloud · May 15, 2018

Kane said:
I haven't seen that, but it would make sense because only Smash and Pokemon would be more than enough to move a lot of systems...

Even Emily said she doesn't think Retro's game is 2018.

Like I've said I think this game started development in 2016 and I wouldn't be surprised if it's not ready for this year.

Deleted member 8593 · May 15, 2018

If you think there ain't gonna be any 2019 games in the Direct, I got a bridge to sell to you. One that you can race your Arwing over.

Sander VF · May 15, 2018

Dardan Sandiego said:
If you think there ain't gonna be any 2019 games in the Direct, I got a bridge to sell to you. One that you can race your Arwing over.

Make it an orbital elevator and we have a deal.

Neoxon · May 15, 2018

Chalfonts said:
The thing that's confusing me

Pokemon wont be revealed in the direct

Smash wasn't revealed in the direct

3DS games wont be included in the direct

2019 games wont be included in the direct

So what's in the direct?

They weren't gonna reveal Pokémon in an E3 Direct anyway. But what we could get (assuming that we hold Nintendo to their word on this being 2018-only) is...

More info & a release date for Smash
More info on Pokémon
A reveal & release date for Fire Emblem
More info & a release date for Yoshi
Some third party reveals (DBFZ, Fortnite, etc.)
Other surprises

That'd still make for a solid Nintendo showing at E3 this year, even if the worst-case scenario happens & we don't hear a peep about next year's line-up.

Dardan Sandiego said:
If you think there ain't gonna be any 2019 games in the Direct, I got a bridge to sell to you. One that you can race your Arwing over.

To be fair, Nintendo was more adamant about it this time, going as far as to say that 2019 titles will be featured at a later date.

Deleted member 4976 · May 15, 2018

Chalfonts said:
The thing that's confusing me

Pokemon wont be revealed in the direct

Smash wasn't revealed in the direct

3DS games wont be included in the direct

2019 games wont be included in the direct

So what's in the direct?

The direct will start off by focusing on the legacy of Metroid Prime and a trilogy port announcement for the Switch, before swerving focusing fully on Star Fox: GP for the rest of the direct. To maximize Era meltdowns.

NintendoMariah · May 15, 2018

Has this been posted

Dark Cloud · May 15, 2018

UmbriaPauly said:
Has this been posted

There's a topic on this. It's a ton of trademarks people figure was for Smash. I read Pikmin, F-Zero and Star Fox mentioned "games" under their trademark.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/76609105

NintendoMariah · May 15, 2018

Dark Cloud said:
There's a topic on this. It's a ton of trademarks people figure was for Smash. I read Pikmin, F-Zero and Star Fox mentioned "games" under their trademark.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/76609105

I saw it too but wii sports wii fit wii play wii music wtf

Deleted member 6730 · May 15, 2018

Emily said:
Yup, we can't ban someone for having the same name as a video game character. Also, Harman Smith isn't some minor character in Killer 7, he's a major character.

I was the person who changed his username to Killer751. He explained the situation to me and the other admins. He did not sound like Harman Smith from that YouTube channel/Twitter account (at all). I would know because I've dealt with that YouTuber in the past, and he was a real jerk.

That's good to know.

Dark Cloud · May 15, 2018

UmbriaPauly said:
I saw it too but wii sports wii fit wii play wii music wtf

I think most of those trademarks refer to stages and stuff related to Smash including Wii "____" or Nintendo is just reupping those.

Like the link shows there are two separate patents. Smash, Pikmin, F-Zero and Star Fox are in one patent with different categories that seem to point to F-Zero is coming, since it's lumped in with real games.

NintendoMariah · May 15, 2018

Dark Cloud said:
I think most of those trademarks refer to stages and stuff related to Smash including Wii "____" or Nintendo is just reupping those.

Like the link shows there are two separate patents. Smash, Pikmin, F-Zero and Star Fox are in one patent with different categories that seem to point to F-Zero is coming, since it's lumped in with real games.

Thanks man always can rely on you

Eolz · May 15, 2018

Emily said:
Yup, we can't ban someone for having the same name as a video game character. Also, Harman Smith isn't some minor character in Killer 7, he's a major character.

I was the person who changed his username to Killer751. He explained the situation to me and the other admins. He did not sound like Harman Smith from that YouTube channel/Twitter account (at all). I would know because I've dealt with that YouTuber in the past, and he was a real jerk.

Good thinking, shame about the name confusion.
Hopefully the Killer 7 remaster will make more fans :p

Dark Cloud · May 15, 2018

I wonder if we're going to get the Mini Direct that ZhugeEX seemed to hint at?

Adder · May 15, 2018

Tregard said:
- Lots of Smash details and characters we still wouldn't be aware of
- Some extra Pokémon details
- Star Fox Grand Prix
- Fire Emblem
- Animal Crossing
- Pikmin 4
- Mario Maker Deluxe / New 2D Mario
- eShop exclusive stuff
- Fortnite, Travis Strikes Again, Switch footage of whatever is announced by Bethesda/Squeenix

Lots of potential.

Obviously not everything you listed, but third party games such as Spyro, from Ubisoft, Bethesda, Square, Sega and Capcom will be present as well. Anyway, Tregard is on the right track: some of this plus third parties and we are in for a very solid E3. They will show a couple of 2019 things as well I am assuming. And without smoke and mirrors.

ReyVGM said:
What are you talking about? Nintendo is not one of the most hated companies in this site. The mods themselves love Nintendo.

While there's certainly fanboysm all around in all 3 camps, resetera is not a "sony centric" place.

We are not reading the same threads then. For example, Star fox thread is a continously Nintendo bashing thread and we do not know if the game exists.I assure you this will not happen with a Sony game. Fake outrage all over the place. It is not a topic to discuss here though.

Christo750 · May 15, 2018

Chalfonts said:
The thing that's confusing me

Pokemon wont be revealed in the direct

Smash wasn't revealed in the direct

3DS games wont be included in the direct

2019 games wont be included in the direct

So what's in the direct?

2019 games will likely be shown with a short trailer, but no real gameplay breakdown, or maybe not even gameplay footage in their respective trailers. Much like Prime 4's thing last year. Hopefully nothing like Pokemon's announcement last year.

Pokemon will likely have a feature in the Spotlight. X/Y, Omega Ruby/Alpha Saphire, were both featured in their respective years despite being revealed early (the latter being revealed even a month before E3.)

Smash will be in the Direct.

Fire Emblem will certainly be revealed at this point.

Yoshi could get a formal reveal.

Metroid Prime 4 was listed in that Walmart Canada leak, despite most people hypothesizing it'll 2019 (which is probably correct), I can't imagine we don't see a trailer for it here.

Star Fox Grand Prix will likely be revealed.

Monolith Soft's been hiring like crazy for their new project so maybe they're in a position to show something akin to a CG trailer.

Bayonetta 3 could get a CG trailer.

I'm hoping there's a 3rd-party montage that takes like 5 minutes and doesn't spend too much time on these announcements, especially considering a lot of them are probably late ports. Fortnite, GTA, etc. Not necessarily those games but games of that variety.

It has the potential to be jam-packed, just maybe not with megaton announcements. We really have next to no idea about their Q2 aside from Smash and a few titles in July. It's all about filling the schedule now.

EDIT:

Dark Cloud said:
I wonder if we're going to get the Mini Direct that ZhugeEX seemed to hint at?

When did he do this?

Skittzo · May 15, 2018

Pokemon might just be announced in a mini Direct, or maybe just a Direct that's dropped essentially out of nowhere and not necessarily branded as "mini."

I'm starting to doubt we'll see a full-on Direct before E3 like we get most years though, what with Nintendo dropping a lot of info on Aces and Octopath just on Twitter.

Hopefully this mean Directs and their E3 presentations will largely be for new game announcements and reveals, and updates on previously announced videos will just be random tweets.

Deleted member 1413 · May 15, 2018

I was thinking a mini Direct for the rest of the Mario Tennis info, Nintendo Online, and Pokémon, but they dropped a lot of it without a direct so may just be a Pokémon only event if that

SuperBlank · May 15, 2018

Usually Pokemon likes its own Direct, and apart from E3 or spin-offs, I'd be surprised if that changed any time soon.

Killer751 · May 15, 2018

OH YEAH. THAT REMINDS ME.

They BETTER not show Mario Tennis at E3 at all. That would be a real buzzkill. I could see them pulling an E3 2015 and showing off all of these games that no one cares about for fifteen or twenty minutes.

Deleted member 1413 · May 15, 2018

Killer751 said:
OH YEAH. THAT REMINDS ME.

They BETTER not show Mario Tennis at E3 at all. That would be a real buzzkill. I could see them pulling an E3 2015 and showing off all of these games that no one cares about for fifteen or twenty minutes.

I remember when Yarn Yoshi came out early in Europe and then Nintendo has a long segment on Yoshi because the US hadn't gotten it yet. Was so bad, lol.

But Mario tennis will likely be shown in some capacity. Hopefully not long

Deleted member 42164 · May 15, 2018

Killer751 said:
OH YEAH. THAT REMINDS ME.

They BETTER not show Mario Tennis at E3 at all. That would be a real buzzkill. I could see them pulling an E3 2015 and showing off all of these games that no one cares about for fifteen or twenty minutes.

It's coming out the week after E3 ends so they'll most likely want to do a final reminder.
Showing nothing would be quite strange.

Harpoon · May 15, 2018

Christo750 said:
Monolith Soft's been hiring like crazy for their new project so maybe they're in a position to show something akin to a CG trailer.

Eh... IMO, unlikely. Whenever someone asks them about their next project, Monolith always makes it sound like they're going to wait until the XBC2 DLC is done before discussing it. Plus, their recent job hirings make it sound like the game's still a while off yet--I wouldn't expect an announcement until maybe next year, and a release in 2020.

Killer751 · May 15, 2018

Harpoon said:
Eh... IMO, unlikely. Whenever someone asks them about their next project, Monolith always makes it sound like they're going to wait until the XBC2 DLC is done before discussing it. Plus, their recent job hirings make it sound like the game's still a while off yet--I wouldn't expect an announcement until maybe next year, and a release in 2020.

I don't know, we were expecting to have to wait until 2020 for a new Xenoblade, but they managed to pump out XC2 in a couple of years.

LordByron28 · May 15, 2018

So if rumors/leaks are true, I think this will be Nintendo's lineup:
August- Yoshi
September- Smash Bros.
October- Star Fox Grand Prix or Fire Emblem
November- Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee
December- Star Fox Grand Prix or Fire Emblem

1st half 2019 could have Animal Crossing, 2D Mario, Pikmin and ports such as Metroid Prime Trilogy, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Kid Icarus Uprising. Etc.

Christo750 · May 15, 2018

Killer751 said:
OH YEAH. THAT REMINDS ME.

They BETTER not show Mario Tennis at E3 at all. That would be a real buzzkill. I could see them pulling an E3 2015 and showing off all of these games that no one cares about for fifteen or twenty minutes.

They'll probably include it in a little montage before the main series of trailers, much like they did with ARMS. Won't be in it enough to be offensive. Hopefully, they make NO mention of tournaments or eSports at all though.

Killer751 · May 15, 2018

LordByron28 said:
So if rumors/leaks are true, I think this will be Nintendo's lineup:
August- Yoshi
September- Smash Bros.
October- Star Fox Grand Prix or Fire Emblem
November- Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee
December- Star Fox Grand Prix or Fire Emblem

1st half 2019 could have Animal Crossing, 2D Mario, Pikmin and ports such as Metroid Prime Trilogy, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Kid Icarus Uprising. Etc.

They have to have more than that.

MaitreWakou · May 15, 2018

Killer751 said:
They have to have more than that.

I don't know, it's a very good line up for the end of the year. Pokémon and Smash are huge sellers. Fire Emblem and Star Fox (if it's 2018) are good niche titles. Yoshi is a good casual title. That's fine I think. You can expect some ports maybe like Super Mario 3D world.

Deleted member 1413 · May 15, 2018

Killer751 said:
They have to have more than that.

That's like one big game a month. Would be nuts to have more

Killer751 · May 15, 2018

Cartridge Games said:
That's like one big game a month. Would be nuts to have more

I wouldn't call another 2D Yoshi game a 'big release.'

Please keep in mind we haven't had a really good Switch release all year so far.

Phendrift · May 15, 2018

I mean, ARMS launched the week after E3 last year and they didn't focus on it in the spotlight, I wouldn't worry about Tennis getting too much attention

Killer751 said:
They have to have more than that.

That's a pretty insane lineup. Like 5 main series entries in great franchises. That's probably the best case scenario, I'd lower your expectations.

Gobias-Ind · May 15, 2018

Killer751 said:
I wouldn't call another 2D Yoshi game a 'big release.'

Please keep in mind we haven't had a really good Switch release all year so far.

Yeah we have.

And nobody else is publishing a lineup close to that this holiday season. They don't have to have more than that.

MaitreWakou · May 15, 2018

Killer751 said:
I wouldn't call another 2D Yoshi game a 'big release.'

Please keep in mind we haven't had a really good Switch release all year so far.

Come on, we just had Kirby and Labo, and in a few weeks we'll have Mario Tennis and Sushi Striker...

2017 : 1 2 Switch, Zelda, Arms, Splatoon 2, Fire Emblem Musou, Mario, Xenoblade 2. 7 games. (8 with Snipperclips)
2018 : Kirby, Labo, Sushi, Mario Tennis, Yoshi, Smash, Pokémon, Fire Emblem. 8 games (9 with Labo Robot), maybe more.

Phendrift · May 15, 2018

MaitreWakou said:
Come on, we just had Kirby and Labo, and in a few weeks we'll have Mario Tennis and Sushi Striker...

Don't you know? Only mainline 3D Mario, Zelda and Metroid are good

Dark Cloud · May 15, 2018

LordByron28 said:
So if rumors/leaks are true, I think this will be Nintendo's lineup:
August- Yoshi
September- Smash Bros.
October- Star Fox Grand Prix or Fire Emblem
November- Pokemon Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee
December- Star Fox Grand Prix or Fire Emblem

1st half 2019 could have Animal Crossing, 2D Mario, Pikmin and ports such as Metroid Prime Trilogy, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Kid Icarus Uprising. Etc.

It feels like there should be one more Nintendo game.

Mistle · May 15, 2018

Killer751 said:
They have to have more than that.

Best start tempering your expectations

MaitreWakou · May 15, 2018

Phendrift said:
Don't you know? Only mainline 3D Mario, Zelda and Metroid are good

And Pokémon full open world 3D Breath of the Wild engine !

Killer751 · May 15, 2018

If I wanted to play a 2D Yoshi game, I would play Island again.

I don't particularly want another Yoshi rehash for Switch. I want them to do something new. Yoshi has been long overdue for a proper 3D entry. Imagine a 3D Yoshi's Story. That would be gorgeous.

Kirby was a disappointment for the same reason. I'm not interested in Labo, and Fire Emblem is still unannounced. It COULD be a huge step in the right direction for the franchise, but it could also double down on Fates' problems. That leaves Smash Bros, which probably isn't going to be just a rehash of Smash 4.

I am NOT happy with the Switch line up so far this year.

DecoReturns · May 15, 2018

Killer751 said:
I wouldn't call another 2D Yoshi game a 'big release.'

Please keep in mind we haven't had a really good Switch release all year so far.

Yoshi will most likely sell more then Xenoblade 2. And Xeno was considered a big release, Yoshi is one as well.

We've had a couple of good Switch releases. Kirby is doing well, Bayonetta is doing better then the Wii U Version And DK is looking like it's might end up Doubling its Wii U counterpart.

Zippo · May 15, 2018

I wouldn't delve much out of this, but Andre said Derrick is at a preview event at the moment, all he said was "it'll work out and we'll soon see why."

Killer751 · May 15, 2018

DecoReturns said:
Yoshi will most likely sell more then Xenoblade 2. And Xeno was considered a big release, Yoshi is one as well.

We've had a couple of good Switch releases. Kirby is doing well, Bayonetta is doing better then the Wii U Version And DK is looking like it's might end up Doubling its Wii U counterpart.

I think that has nothing to do with the games themselves, but the Switch simply being a much more popular platform than the Wii U.

I believe that a 3D Yoshi game would do significantly better than another 2D one.

DecoReturns · May 15, 2018

Zippo said:
I wouldn't delve much out of this, but Andre said Derrick is at a preview event at the moment, all he said was "it'll work out and we'll soon see why."

So you're saying people will be ashamed of their words and deeds? :P

MaitreWakou · May 15, 2018

Killer751 said:
I think that has nothing to do with the games themselves, but the Switch simply being a much more popular platform than the Wii U.

I believe that a 3D Yoshi game would do significantly better than another 2D one.

But what if nobody wants to do a 3D Yoshi ? Let Nintendo do what they want to do, it's going fine for them. You are not happy with the current line up, I get it, I can understand. But they don't "have to have more". It's a very very good line up.

Deleted member 6730 · May 15, 2018

"Hey guys I'm going to go into a thread titled 'Nintendo First-Party' and talk about how much I'm not interested in their games."

ASilentProtagonist · May 15, 2018

Zippo said:
I wouldn't delve much out of this, but Andre said Derrick is at a preview event at the moment, all he said was "it'll work out and we'll soon see why."

Hmmmm..

Skittzo · May 15, 2018

Killer751 said:
I think that has nothing to do with the games themselves, but the Switch simply being a much more popular platform than the Wii U.

I believe that a 3D Yoshi game would do significantly better than another 2D one.

While I don't really disagree that this year is looking fairly lackluster in games I personally like, you have to realize that we don't represent the mass market.

3D Mario's sell worse than 2D generally. Hell, 3D platformers in general sell worse that 2D platformers. A 3D Yoshi would not do better than a 2D one, at least the first foray into 3D.

Deleted member 1413 · May 15, 2018

Killer751 said:
I wouldn't call another 2D Yoshi game a 'big release.'

Please keep in mind we haven't had a really good Switch release all year so far.

Mario Tennis is out next month.
It's fine, no other console manufacturer has or is expected to put out a retail release monthly

Plankton2 · May 15, 2018

DecoReturns said:
Yoshi will most likely sell more then Xenoblade 2. And Xeno was considered a big release, Yoshi is one as well.

We've had a couple of good Switch releases. Kirby is doing well, Bayonetta is doing better then the Wii U Version And DK is looking like it's might end up Doubling its Wii U counterpart.

Yeah but Nintendo has mentioned a few times now, they (finally) realized the need to cater to all demographics. If they ended up just going back to what they normally do they may ultimately end up back to a Wii U situation which is no what they want. Diversifying their catalogue is important despite raw sales figures.

And I don't think it's unfair to say the first half of 2018 is weak if you already had a Wii U. 2nd half looks good, and potentially whats lining up for 2019 might be amazing.

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