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Black woman removed from United flight for 'pungent' complaint by white man that took her seat
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Could have been, but the pilot is specifically NOT supposed to leave the cockpit for basically any reason - so even if it wasn't a pass of the buck they have to do that.
That's why the pilot is the perfect scapegoat. He really can't contradict the flight crew because passengers aren't allowed to see him.
It's certainly who I'd say made the call if I was a United employee looking to sort out this dispute ASAP.
Do you think accounts from the pilot, the flight attendants, other passengers or United would be useful here?
If someone in a burqa tried to steal a seat and insisted that they had to stay in the seat no matter what they would be shot dead by an air marshall
White dude does it and he is able to warp space time around him and ruin the day for not just another person but children as well
White dude does it and he is able to warp space time around him and ruin the day for not just another person but children as well
Possibly yeah. The fact that United declined to comment meant they probably want to find out internally what happened.
That and they've had a few incidents like this on their planes so they wouldn't take anything for granted and are probably checking pretty thoroughly what everyone did.
Women fucking smell sometimes! :lol
This no doubletalk. Check them
Well they can't comment because it's pending litigation. Currently we have no input whatsoever from anyone but the person filing the suit. That's an important part of the story to be sure but it's not sufficient.
Yeah they may also, depending on what they find try to settle out of court so keeping their mouths shut makes sense at this point. No sense taking options off the table.
I'l take an asswhooping for a few mil. Come get me United, I'm ready.
Unless someone's body is somehow emanating horrible poisonous gases that threaten your very survival and those in the plane, you sit in your assigned seat you paid for, you shut the hell up, and mind your own miserable life.
From the your very first trip in business or first, the major airlines create a file for you. They track if you have any special service requests, drink preferences, how many times you have had a drink before takeoff, and during the flight, allergies, dinner choices, whether you preferred peanuts or pretzels, or if a hot towel disgusts you.
The airline absolutely knows all the flying habits of that man (and the woman and her kids).
My guess (and I hope I am wrong) is that the guy is clearly a High Value Customer, maybe even a million-miler. If my hunch is correct, don't expect his name to be revealed at all, and he might even get a personal phone call from VP-level or above leadership at United to assure him that everything will be taken care of.
In situations like this, the de-escalation process unfortunately will just lean on and pressure who they feel is the more compliant and less threatening party. They will never officially say it's because of that one person but a conflict is between two parties and removing one is a relatively easy solution. It sucks but that's the way it is. In seat-disputes in coach/economy, the loudest and most irate passenger is usually the one bumped up to first class, not the more quiet one.
The airline absolutely knows all the flying habits of that man (and the woman and her kids).
My guess (and I hope I am wrong) is that the guy is clearly a High Value Customer, maybe even a million-miler. If my hunch is correct, don't expect his name to be revealed at all, and he might even get a personal phone call from VP-level or above leadership at United to assure him that everything will be taken care of.
In situations like this, the de-escalation process unfortunately will just lean on and pressure who they feel is the more compliant and less threatening party. They will never officially say it's because of that one person but a conflict is between two parties and removing one is a relatively easy solution. It sucks but that's the way it is. In seat-disputes in coach/economy, the loudest and most irate passenger is usually the one bumped up to first class, not the more quiet one.
Very strange call by the crew.
If taking a passenger off the flight is on the table, why then would you NOT choose the loudest passenger making the trouble?
If taking a passenger off the flight is on the table, why then would you NOT choose the loudest passenger making the trouble?
I recently got to my seat someone was sitting there. He nicely said "Hey man this is my wife mind if I sit here?" I said "no problem" we switched tickets and I stood in the back waiting for everyone to be seated before going towards the front of the plane. When I got to my new seat (by this time all the attendants knew what was going on).
Get to my new seat and someone else is sitting there. I got all my stuff in my hand. They have openings in first class. Instead of giving it to me the guy standing with all his shit a few isles away. They make the white guy already sitting with his belt on get up and get his stuff to move into first class... How does that make any sense? This was also United by the way.
Guy had this look on his face like "This makes no sense but oh well I ain't turning down first class!!"
I'm not sure what the proper way to handle this would have been but the way he blocked her seat was clearly the wrong thing to do.
I don't understand how booking tickets even works anymore. I was on a business trip last year and we ended up with united tickets. During check in I had the option to pay extra and more or less steal someone else's seat. Jokingly I tested this out and ended up taking my coworker's exit row seat since I was in line ahead of him (he's a tall dude). How are people sitting in the wrong seats, and why is the airline not just making them move.
Here's a proper way of handling:
"Sir, shut the fuck up and stay in your seat. If you do not cooperate we will be forced to deplane you." was that so hard?
I mean, maybe I'm oblivious to Americas ability to reach new lows.... But can you really say this like it's fact? If so that's super fucked up
Probably because they want as little trouble as possible so they let the asshole have his way
I think we are all loosing sight of the more important question here.
Did she actually smell? Cause that would be a deal breaker for me.
Did she actually smell? Cause that would be a deal breaker for me.
If I had to sit next to someone on an airplane who smelled to that strongly of a degree, I would complain. If you are going on an airplane you have a responsibility to those sitting next to you to be hygienic. Especially on a flight from Africa to Canada!
Youre sitting on a plane, youre going to get sick regardless of where youre coming from lol
Counterpoint: nobody smells fresh after flying from Nigeria to California, and also so fucking what? If airlines are going to keep people from making connecting flights because they smell bad after a transatlantic flight then they better be willing to pay for hotel accomodation.
united sounds like a seriously fucked up airline. Almost every negative think piece article about fuck ups on airlines has been united.
Even if they did smell, that's no reason to kick someone off the plane.
I fly around the world all the time and I smell fine. It isn't that difficult to not smell bad, even on an international flight.
Except it was only after she insisted on her seat that suddenly her "smell" became an issue. Why are you taking the person that wouldn't get out of her seat at his word on that?
You find it hard to believe because you're under the mistaken impression everyone in the US gets treated like white people.
I'm not taking him on his word. I'm just wondering, did she actually smell? The article never says! I worked at a voting station during the 2012 elections. I had a supervisor that smelled like I never knew a non-decomposing human could smell. There are people out there that smell like something else. Sitting next to one of those people on a 10+ hour flight would be my version of hell.
Sorry but what the fuck are you doing on long flights that make you produce unpleasant body odors? Like you're just supposed to be sitting there chilling
I don't know that taking anyone at their word can really be criticized in this case unless you don't do it yourself. We have only one side of this story from a single person, and it's the person filing the lawsuit. We have zero input from anyone else who was either present or involved in the aftermath. Any judgment right now means you have to take someone's word and I can't see how anyone can judge whether or not that's a good idea. None of us know anything about either of these two people.
Well we do know that the woman did not file anything for two years and then, before the airline had a chance to even look at the suit, she went to the media. Which makes me at the very least slightly skeptical.
