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Eurogamer: Leaks suggest Retro Studios making Star Fox racing spin-off (also heard by EG's sources)
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the quality of the game is irrelevant to most of the people disappointed. Most people are disappointed in the IP or genre. They're not saying it will be bad.
Donkey Kong is a better property than Star Fox. Star Fox blew i's chance.
"This isn't an on rails shooter!"
I mean, is a "racing game" all that different than blasting through a SF64 level aiming for time trails / trying to max out score on time to beat it? There will still be enemies, dogfights, obstacles, etc it sounds like from our limited info. This can basically be classic starfox levels but you are also competing against other pilots to reach the end instead of just the clock. If anything it is pretty inline with how most on-rails starfox games felt.
I mean, is a "racing game" all that different than blasting through a SF64 level aiming for time trails / trying to max out score on time to beat it? There will still be enemies, dogfights, obstacles, etc it sounds like from our limited info. This can basically be classic starfox levels but you are also competing against other pilots to reach the end instead of just the clock. If anything it is pretty inline with how most on-rails starfox games felt.
I will never understand how people keep managing to disappoint themselves with Retro.
This will probably be fun, I'm excited to learn more about it. I really hope it comes out this year.
This will probably be fun, I'm excited to learn more about it. I really hope it comes out this year.
Because MiamiWesker basically likes one type of game. It needs to be third person, linear (wide-linear at worst), and full of handcrafted moments.
It seems you want them to make the game you want. Do you really think Retro would've worked upwards of 4 years on this (if true)? They were also the ones really pushing for a Donkey Kong revival but had to put it on hold due to MP3 Corruption. Retro's potential isn't wasted on games they want to make.
Im retired and I'm definitely not making any comments about Retro Studios, but calm down, that's all I'm gonna say.
And lets not forget the steller work they did for MK7. And while people come and go, it's about the leadership and in that regard they have been strong and steady with the same leadership throughout most of their career.
Because the Star Fox franchise is doing so well right now and nobody has been asking for an F-Zero game for the past decade.
Old Wii U ports and indie games are doing way better cuz people love the Switch. Nintendo knows it.
This may be looked at as a spin-off title but depending on how the racing mechanics work it could the best thing to happen to Star Fox in 21 years.
I'm not questioning the quality of the actual game if this thing turns out to be true. Pretty sure it will play and look great but god damn why use the worst Nintendo IP for this when they could have made a new F-Zero instead, wich is what most fans have been asking for years! Good thing is that this is just a rumor so I still have hopes this will turn out fake but yikes if true :(
There's nothing to stop Retro putting characters from F-zero and Metroid in.
The likes of Samus and Captain Falcon would never fit into Mario Kart...but they might fit into this (if Retro wanted to include them)
We know 2 things of this game (or we we think that)
Its starfox
It's a racer
People dissapoonted with any of those two can express their dissapointment.
I love racers and I like retro's output, but it being a Starfox game kill part of my interest in the game.
Like this is what is killing me. Literally no one in this thread is saying the game is bad lol. They're just disappointed. And that's okay.
But apparently we have to be hype and positive because it's Retro and it's impossible for them to make a mistake!
I don't see why Retro can't just expand upon their version of DK and give us an all-new cast. At least that franchise has a history with kart racers. Star Fox has always been a shooter and, let's face it, it doesn't have anywhere near the same popularity and nostalgic appeal as DK does. I don't get the logic behind making it a kart racer.
But it's Retro. They have impeccable management over there. Maybe they produce a badass game out of this weird concept.
It makes a lot of sense too. Nintendo/Retro probably started with the idea of a high-speed hover racer that would offer more variety and greater accessibility than F-Zero, so maybe different vehicle types, weaponry/powerups, and an adventure mode with bosses, etc. Then from there they asked which IP would suit this perfectly. And Star Fox, with its airborne/land/sea vehicles, weapons and powerups, potential transformations, epic bosses, and sense of adventure was the answer.
I think people are going to freak out no matter what Retro Studios is working on.
Personally, I'm inclined to wait and see what it actually looks and plays like before forming an opinion.
Personally, I'm inclined to wait and see what it actually looks and plays like before forming an opinion.
Well that is reassuring, not that I needed any reassuring because it's Retro. Hopefully it helps other people in thread
As much as I'd like to see Retro tackle a brand new IP I'm not sure what people would expect from it. I'm sure people would be disappointed in whatever that turned out to be too.
Like, do people expect it to be some kind of Naughty Dog-type action adventure? Yeah that's not going to happen, and just because they're a western developer doesn't mean their games fall into the common popular trend of them. Retro are good at making the kind of games they've put out for almost the last two decades - game play driven properties with some pretty solid narrative and world building.
I'd probably have more interest in this idea if this didn't feel like Nintendo trying to strong-arm the Star Fox IP into something "new" for the umpteenth time; as opposed to either just making a new IP or giving many fans what they actually want and making a proper SF on-rails shooter that actually follows on 64 (and to a lesser extent Assault/Zero) that isn't overridden by gimmicks.The fact they're also trying to fold the Diddy Kong Racing game design setup (multiple vehicles, bosses, hubworlds) and F-Zero gameplay into this AND they intend to make this a reboot/mainline entry rather than a spinoff as well only serve to underline this to me.
It sounds like a bunch of various ideas crafted together that sound good in theory but could easily end up being a patchwork mess in practice; and also simply doesn't sound like the right game for the right time in the context of either of the three IPs mentioned--Star Fox just had its first new game in a decade crash and burn in reviews and sales; and DKR and F-Zero have been buried for over a decade. And I'm saying all of this as a big fan of DKR and SF(64), both of which are two of my favorite N64 games and my favorite games in general (esp. the former).
All that aside; as much as I'm not actually opposed to Retro choosing to make what they want as they are great developers regardless, I was really hoping for them to make a third DKC; namely applying their platformer design talents in a 3D space and giving the series a new 3D platforming game (since TF has been ported to the Switch after it didn't sell too hot on the Wii U). So I'd be lying if I said Retro not working on such a game wouldn't bum me out a lot.
The concept doesn't sound outright terrible; but I'm not gonna lie: I really do hope this is just a rumor, and this isn't the game Retro has been working on all this time.
It sounds like a bunch of various ideas crafted together that sound good in theory but could easily end up being a patchwork mess in practice; and also simply doesn't sound like the right game for the right time in the context of either of the three IPs mentioned--Star Fox just had its first new game in a decade crash and burn in reviews and sales; and DKR and F-Zero have been buried for over a decade. And I'm saying all of this as a big fan of DKR and SF(64), both of which are two of my favorite N64 games and my favorite games in general (esp. the former).
All that aside; as much as I'm not actually opposed to Retro choosing to make what they want as they are great developers regardless, I was really hoping for them to make a third DKC; namely applying their platformer design talents in a 3D space and giving the series a new 3D platforming game (since TF has been ported to the Switch after it didn't sell too hot on the Wii U). So I'd be lying if I said Retro not working on such a game wouldn't bum me out a lot.
The concept doesn't sound outright terrible; but I'm not gonna lie: I really do hope this is just a rumor, and this isn't the game Retro has been working on all this time.
I think that's irrelevant if retro can make a great game out of it.
Because StarFox has more brand recognition than F-Zero even after they keep fumbling the games over and over and over again.
People are mad because Retro's are doing yet another racing game using the Star Fox IP's instead of another action adventure SP game, which would be nice because we aren't lacking arcade racers on Switch
Agreed. But why a racing game though? Why not use a genre that SF already took in the past? *cough* action adventure *cough*
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This year has been laughable for the Switch
The online service is a poorly thought out joke, third party support is at N64 levels, their big game for the first half of the year is mario tennis and retro's "big game" is a wipeout knockoff with starfox characters
The online service is a poorly thought out joke, third party support is at N64 levels, their big game for the first half of the year is mario tennis and retro's "big game" is a wipeout knockoff with starfox characters
Plus FZero games never sold well in the first place
Thats the facts
It could be.
If this is true though (and that's their only game they're working on), i don't understand the logic behind their recent hires, because they brought people experienced on making games in first person mostly from Certain Affinity (but also Twisted Pixel Games and Midnight Studios which worked primarily on shooters and VR titles.
I like many games but yes I have a preference and I prefer to have the best teams working on the best kinds of games. If the zelda team decided to take 4 years to make Star Tropics Cooking I would be just as pissed.
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