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Deleted member 9317

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Oct 26, 2017
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My experience eating at restaurants. People sit down at a table. They order, they eat, they pay, they leave. Now one of these people may leave during dinner for whatever reason. The restaurant won't give the bill for their portion at the restaurant as their exiting. They will leave the check with the table. Whoever's left at the table can fight over how they want to pay, the resturant doesn't care, as long as the check is settled.

I don't understand how people don't understand that the restaurant bills the table/booth. A sob story MIGHT get her out of the bill, but how is the restaurant going to trust that you're telling the truth instead of trying to skip out on half of an expensive bill?

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I'm dining and dashing on this thread before it gets me banned. Y'all are cool.

I'll leave this thread with a short paragraph on the phrase "Fraud",

Fraud is when someone tricks or deceives you to gain a dishonest advantage – usually money, goods, services or property. There are many words used to describe fraud, such as scam, con, swindle, extortion, sham, double-cross, hoax, cheat and hoodwink. Although embarrassment or shame can be common reactions, you have no need to feel this way. Some people blame themselves after falling victim to fraud, but you're not to blame – only the offender is responsible for this crime taking place. Penalties for fraud offenses may include criminal penalties, civil penalties, or both. Most criminal fraud offenses are considered felony crimes and are punishable by jail, fines, probation, or all of the above. Civil penalties may include restitution (paying the person back) or payment of substantial fines (geared to punish the behavior). The penalties for your offense will depend on the nature, type, scope, and severity of the action and whether it was committed by an individual or an entity, such as a business, corporation or group.
 
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Dec 12, 2017
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Those are lies people tell themselves to cope with victimization. I literally work with victimized teens (more serious stuff like sex trafficking) and you hear this shit all day while the perpetrators create more cases for us.

Riiiiiight.

So you believe my time is better spent taking off work for a small claims court case or yelling at a restaurant manager to recover ~$80 (which was the amount I paid on her behalf)?

Also, yes sex trafficking is not even in the same ballpark as what happened to me.
 

joecanada

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Oct 28, 2017
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Exactly, I just looked it up. Here's the relevant section of the CA Penal Code:



While the person whose left remaining that has to pony up the bill could try and sue the other party in civil court, they'd have to prove some sort of understanding existed such that the other person was expected to pay their portion of the meal.
I don't think that's it. This is like the engagement ring debate that's in court repeatedly. I'm pretty sure it would be he who would have to prove the dinner was a gift and she agreed to pay for his food which he himself ordered and asked for.

Edit - or maybe you said that as well but I can't tell by the wording
 

Ragnorok64

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Nov 6, 2017
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The amount of money involved isn't worth the time and expense of trying to take this to small claims court. It's a terrible thing to do to someone but it's literally not worth it to pursue in a court.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Riiiiiight.

So you believe my time is better spent taking off work for a small claims court case or yelling at a restaurant manager to recover ~$80 (which was the amount I paid on her behalf)?

Also, yes sex trafficking is not even in the same ballpark as what happened to me.

Dude, that's up to you, but you and others came in with an attitude that fighting this is a waste of everyone's time and that people should just accept this behavior. That's where my problem lies. You literally admit that you helped embolden someone to victimize others by letting them off the hook and come across like that's some sort of superior position to take when it's literally the people who say no that helps prevent these situations altogether.

Your time is your time, but you're literally helping no one at best and actually giving credence to a criminal at worst. Pretending like that's the best option is what causes all sorts of predators to be emboldened whether someone stole dinner from you or did something much worse. Sometimes even little things are worth fighting for to salvage your own dignity and that of every other future victim.
 

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Let me charm you, sweet talk you into seeing me for a date. You get dressed up, you dedicate time for me, you look your best, and you have an entire day planned in your head. You're nervous, meeting me for the first time, wondering what it'll be like. You haven't had luck with dates, maybe this time it'll turn things around. You arrive at the bar, sitting anxious, maybe mildly panicking. I arrive, oh thank God I look like my photos. We start talking, you're intrigued. You may not like certain things about me, but I'm acting all boss ordering expensive meals and drinks, I make you comfortable, we joke around, maybe you share some details of yourself you are comfortable to share. You finally trust me by the end of the date. I excuse myself to charge my phone. You sit there. 5 minutes. 10 minutes. Its slowly kicking in; I'm not coming back. Confidence broken, trust broken, embarassing. Everyone around you now knows you got ditched. The waiter comes, looking confused. You ask for the bill. Maybe you can't afford the entire bill and thought you both will go dutch. You're now about to pay for someone's meal who doesn't respect your time and effort as a decent human being, not one bit. You walk out in shame. Your confidence in online dating is down, you felt like you were cheated on.

I leave with a smug face and a full stomach, laughing my way to the next girl i'm chatting with, all while telling my friend what a hustler I am.

What do you get in return?

Similar stories happen to like hundreds of thousands of people every day lol. Just the risk of dating total strangers. Some are going to use you for a free meal.
 
Dec 12, 2017
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Dude, that's up to you, but you and others came in with an attitude that fighting this is a waste of everyone's time and that people should just accept this behavior. That's where my problem lies. You literally admit that you helped embolden someone to victimize others by letting them off the hook and come across like that's some sort of superior position to take when it's literally the people who say no that helps prevent these situations altogether.

Your time is your time, but you're literally helping no one at best and actually giving credence to a criminal at worst. Pretending like that's the best option is what causes all sorts of predators to be emboldened whether someone stole dinner from you or did something much worse. Sometimes even little things are worth fighting for to salvage your own dignity and that of every other future victim.

All fights aren't equal.

$80 is hardly something to lose sleep over for me.

How others choose to follow up when placed in similar circumstances is theirs to decide.

That is the beauty of all being individuals and not a monolith. :)
 
Nov 9, 2017
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Similar stories happen to like hundreds of thousands of people every day lol. Just the risk of dating total strangers. Some are going to use you for a free meal.

Exactly. That sob story he posted happens to guys all the time. It's not unheard of for women to go out with guys they have no interest in for a free meal / evening. Would this be a news-worthy story if a beautiful woman was going out with below-average looking guys for free meals?
 

Medalion

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Oct 27, 2017
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I suppose I knew "Dine and Dash" was a thing before it had this name.. but when I hear this term, I think of sitcom episodes like Married With Children or That 70's Show that had an episode dedicated to them
 

henhowc

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Oct 26, 2017
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Exactly. That sob story he posted happens to guys all the time. It's not unheard of for women to go out with guys they have no interest in for a free meal / evening. Would this be a news-worthy story if a beautiful woman was going out with below-average looking guys for free meals?

I'm going to assume most instances aren't dine and dashes though? Ghosting usually happens after ;)
 

Emergency & I

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Oct 27, 2017
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Him?


Anyway, an attractive woman should actively search him out. Invite all the women he's fucked over and then do some sort of OH HEY FUCK YOU MEET UP. They should also invite his mother. And the police.
 

dyst

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Oct 27, 2017
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I saw this on Yahoo news not too long ago. I wonder what makes this particular person news worthy.

What he does is pretty pathetic but people do this on dates all the time. It does not make it right but I am not sure how illegal it is.
 

Sowrong

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Oct 29, 2017
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Only reason this is a story is because it's s guy doing it. Hundreds on guys with no chance, are getting used for a free dinner on the daily.
 

roguesquirrel

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Oct 29, 2017
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dudes a scumbag but i lost it the third time he showed up on desus and mero and it turns out he keeps going to the same place
 

Hubologist

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What's odd is the manager of that restaurant knows the guy's a serial dine and dasher, yet he does nothing about it except warn the ladies after it's too late? Why isn't his picture put in the kitchen so everyone knows to either not serve him, or make his victims aware before he scams them out of money?

Something's amiss!
 
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Probably not easy to remember dude's face. He looks like every generic bro.

You'd end up pissing off the other generic bro that he looks like the dasher.
 

Emergency & I

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Oct 27, 2017
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He lives in Los Angeles, a foodie heaven, and he's going to BJs?

What a dweeb.




Not only is he a loser, but he has terrible taste.
 

HiLife

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Oct 25, 2017
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Dudes a POS but wow that headline is hilarious. Bad luck for all the girls he finessed.
 

angel

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Oct 27, 2017
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Pretty much. I wouldn't be surprised if he was one of those guys and this is his way of exacting revenge.

100% this. He got screwed over, hit the gym and tanning salon, then went back out into the world to claim vengeance.

I had a date once where she ordered 2 courses and took 4 bites of them both in total. I refused to pay for hers.
 

MrRob

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Oct 26, 2017
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Absolutely 100%. I refuse to be a victim to an asshole. I'll leave that to the restraunt that probably deals with shit like that daily.
I'm with you here. While I wouldn't make an ass of myself in front of the entire restaurant I would pull the manager aside explain what happened and gladly pay my portion of the bill. Any reasonable establishment would be ok with that I would think.

If not well, bye.
 

Emergency & I

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Pasadena has some nice places on Colorado, though if he wanted some truly overpriced garbage he should've suggested Mi Piace.



Anyway, Paul Gonzales is a basic bitch.