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Oct 25, 2017
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Oooh, this'll be a fun game. You can keep saying what it's not and we'll make new guesses! If it's not casinos, then maybe it's all the green chile that does it? That would be a bold new theory!
Just report/ignore, all they did was shit on the thread and refuse to engage when asked to back up what they said.

I think the ad is garbage tbh, but it will get people talking about his campaign at least.
 
Apr 27, 2018
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You have presented 0 evidence of that. If you want us to take you seriously, please do. We have presented amble evidence that sanctuary city status and crime rates are in no way correlated. If you want to convince any of us, you are gonna need data.

I've presented enough, only the delusional would deny at this point.

Try to have some sympathy for your neighbors.

You're going to the ignore list, have a good day.
 

Branaghs

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Oct 27, 2017
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Hold on there hokage. I also live in the most dusty city as well and while the apd maybe a little understaffed it isn't so bad here.
 

SaintBowWow

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is he running this on TV?

I've presented enough, only the delusional would deny at this point.

Try to have some sympathy for your neighbors.

You're going to the ignore list, have a good day.

The extent of your evidence is that it's a sanctuary city and there's a high crime rate. You have done nothing to prove the correlation but say everyone who doesn't see it is delusional.
 

BWoog

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Oct 27, 2017
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Do Trumpers take an oath that their handles must reference anime in some way?
 

SpottieO

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Oct 25, 2017
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lol at someone crying about sanctuary cities saying you should have sympathy for your neighbors
 

fracas

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Oct 27, 2017
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I guess the sentiment is nice but that's incredibly unprofessional and looks really bad.
 
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Geist

Prophet of Truth
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Oct 25, 2017
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Is he running this on TV?
Yep, apparently it comes with this disclaimer from the broadcaster:
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Deleted member 22490

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Oct 28, 2017
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But you haven't proven anything.

You're just going "we have crime. Also we are a sanctuary city" and thinking that's a correlation when it isn't.
Clearly, the Mexicans are responsible for the crime rate, according to hokage. He just doesn't want to say that because he knows it's racist as fuck and doesn't want to get banned.
 

Steel

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
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I've presented enough, only the delusional would deny at this point.

Try to have some sympathy for your neighbors.

You're going to the ignore list, have a good day.

You've presented evidence that your city has an extremely high crime rate. You've not presented evidence that cities with sanctuary city status have higher crime rates than other cities. You've been presented with evidence to the contrary, that there are deep red cities nowhere near the border with a higher crime rate than the biggest Sanctuary City.
 

Zen

The Wise Ones
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Nov 1, 2017
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Why is it so easy to derail a topic? Dude is obviously not going to offer any kind of discussion beyond 'fuck you I'm right'. Anyway we need more congressmen willing to speak their minds about this to the public. Props to him.
 
Apr 27, 2018
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User Banned (Permanent): Thread derailment, trolling, account still in the junior phase.
Hmm, why do sanctuary cities have a higher crime rate?

All these Einstein's blowing blood vessels just thinking about it, lol

This place is NeoGAF 2.0 after all

Anyway, just watch the guy who says 'No Amnesty'

That's the man to vote for.

The only nod I'll give you is that New Mexico is already a blue state, so there's the advantage.
 

Steel

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
18,220
Hmm, why do sanctuary cities have a higher crime rate?

All these Einstein's blowing blood vessels just thinking about it, lol

This place is NeoGAF 2.0 after all

Anyway, just out the guy who's as says 'No Amnesty'

That's the man to vote for.

The only nod I'll give you is that New Mexico is already a blue state, so there's the advantage.

https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/fl/melbourne/crime

Why does this city have a higher crime rate than Los Angeles? For that matter, why does Los Angeles have a lower crime rate than Chicago which is nowhere near the border? Just play the victim though. That's cool.
 

Fhtagn

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Oct 25, 2017
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Hmm, why do sanctuary cities have a higher crime rate?

All these Einstein's blowing blood vessels just thinking about it, lol

This place is NeoGAF 2.0 after all

Anyway, just watch the guy who says 'No Amnesty'

That's the man to vote for.

The only nod I'll give you is that New Mexico is already a blue state, so there's the advantage.

You haven't given us any evidence that sanctuary cities have a higher crime rate. Stop pointing fingers at anyone else until you do.
 

Gentlemen

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Oct 25, 2017
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https://www.npr.org/2018/05/02/6076...l-immigration-does-not-increase-violent-crime

Michael Light, a criminologist at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, looked at whether the soaring increase in illegal immigration over the last three decades caused a commensurate jump in violent crimes: murder, rape, robbery and aggravated assault.

"Increased undocumented immigration since 1990 has not increased violent crime over that same time period," Light said in a phone interview.

In a separate study, these same researchers previously looked at nonviolent crime. They found that the dramatic influx of undocumented immigrants, similarly, did not drive up rates of drug and alcohol arrests or the number of drug overdoses and DUI deaths.

"We found no evidence that undocumented immigration increases the prevalence of any of those outcomes," Light said.

A third study, by the libertarian Cato Institute, recently looked at criminality among undocumented immigrants just in Texas. The state records the immigration status of arrestees, creating a gold mine for criminologists.

Cato found that in 2015, criminal conviction and arrest rates in Texas for undocumented immigrants were lower than those of native-born Americans for murder, sexual assault and larceny.

Finally, a research paper appearing in the current edition of the U.K. journal Migration Letters shows that youthful undocumented immigrants engage in less crime than do legal immigrants or U.S.-born peers.

Time to show your math, squire, because from here you're full of shit and not a little bit racist.
 

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Hmm, why do sanctuary cities have a higher crime rate?

All these Einstein's blowing blood vessels just thinking about it, lol

This place is NeoGAF 2.0 after all

Anyway, just watch the guy who says 'No Amnesty'

That's the man to vote for.

The only nod I'll give you is that New Mexico is already a blue state, so there's the advantage.
Look at this racist guy cry
 

Kyra

The Eggplant Queen
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Oct 25, 2017
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I've presented enough, only the delusional would deny at this point.

Try to have some sympathy for your neighbors.

You're going to the ignore list, have a good day.

Seems like you need a sanctuary city of your own to go to because youve been shut down. The only thing youve put on ignore is common sense. I hope your bigoted outlook sustains you long enough see it crumble by a wave of progressive policy and change. Whatever you think you've proven, you haven't and the truth wont be so because you really really want it to be. Examine yourself.


On topic: I feel like the Pats message will undoubtedly be scrutinized but if more senators/ politicians came forward with a similarly strong message it would embolden others to do the same. Our new leaders need balls.
 

Sephzilla

Herald of Stoptimus Crime
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Oct 25, 2017
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Hmm, why do sanctuary cities have a higher crime rate?

All these Einstein's blowing blood vessels just thinking about it, lol

This place is NeoGAF 2.0 after all

Anyway, just watch the guy who says 'No Amnesty'

That's the man to vote for.

The only nod I'll give you is that New Mexico is already a blue state, so there's the advantage.
You dodged the one poster who pointed out a few big sanctuary cities who have lower crime rates than non sanctuary cities.

But yeah, keep drinking the Diet Racism
 

Ms.Galaxy

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Oct 25, 2017
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I've presented enough, only the delusional would deny at this point.

Try to have some sympathy for your neighbors.

You're going to the ignore list, have a good day.

Well then, "neighbor". I've lived in Albuquerque for nearly three years now, and from my observations and experiences, it seems the main cause of the crime rate is related to our shitty police not doing their fucking job (I'm never counting on these incompetent fucks again after how they dealt my rape and assault cases.) and the lack of safety nets leading many homeless and going into crime.

Edit: Ah, banned, good.

On Topic: I'm glad to see someone with the balls just to say "Fuck the NRA". It needed to be said, more so now than ever before. We shouldn't sugarcoat it any longer, this "lobbiest" group is nothing more than a terrorist organization at this point. Just, fuck the NRA.
 
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Mariachi507

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Oct 26, 2017
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Awesome ad.

I've presented enough, only the delusional would deny at this point.

Try to have some sympathy for your neighbors.

You're going to the ignore list, have a good day.

You've stated two facts, one being the crime ranking and the other involving the city being a sanctuary City.

You've claimed that one of the main reasons for fact number one is because of fact number two but haven't provided any evidence to support your claim but insist on insulting who are just asking you to prove it. A claim means nothing if there is no data to support it.

Now, instead of hurling snowflake insults at me and throwing me on the ignore list could you provide evidence to back up your claim. Replying that I'm ignoring the big picture isn't enough either, post some hard data.

Once I see reputable data backing you up then I'll believe it.

Edit: too late, and of course they wouldn't post anything to back their bogus bullshit. To the person who ask why feed the troll ? my answer is that I can't help it. I know it's not going to get me anywhere trying, but it's just how I'm programmed. You post a claim and then you support it with data, it's such a fucking easy concept to understand that it amazes me how people just don't get it. I know we live in the times of "alternate facts" where anyone can spout any type of bullshit they want with no factual basis, but it's so goddamn infuriating.
 
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Dali

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Oct 27, 2017
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I like the debate or rather the points of view put fourth by several people in an npr segment i heard not too long ago. There were a couple of gun owners against the nra one of which used to be a member.
Midwestern listener Scott disagrees. Scott was "born and raised essentially around firearms," he says. He grew up participating in shooting sports, hunted, trapped fish, and spent eight years in the military. He was a lifelong NRA member. But, after the Parkland shooting he says he left the NRA.

"You know, as more and more mass shootings happened, the political rhetoric from the NRA really started to change," he says. "You know, when I was younger, the organization seemed to be primarily focused on gun safety and hunters' rights. And they did themselves promote safe gun regulation and sensible, in my opinion, gun regulations. But as time went on, they changed, in my opinion."

So yeah at this point I have to agree. Fuck the nra. As demonstrated by the above opinion you don't have to be anti-gun to be against the nra. The things they champion are just despicable now.
 

el jacko

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Dec 12, 2017
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Just for the record, and I'm not here to judge anyone, but here's a November 2017 peer-reviewed article reviewing all prior articles and theories on the relationship between immigrants, crime, and sanctuary cities. It claims there is no connection between immigration and crime. It has three and a half pages of references on this topic. I quote:

Neither immigration nor limited cooperation policies are directly positively associated with higher rates of crime.

I understand that the "immigrants and crime" argument is less about facts and more about feelings, but I do think pointing out empirical evidence is important!
 

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I like it, just straight to the point about what he stands for. I'm not American, but I wish political ads in the UK were more like this without all the filler.
 

Sub Level

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Oct 25, 2017
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We need more progressives like this guy and for democrats to adopt a progressive platform front and center.

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Fuckin awesome.
 

Gaia Lanzer

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's about time politicians start taking strong stances against the NRA. I hope this continues.
Yeah, we need politicians with balls. No more "But guys, we gotta take the high road!". We ARE the high road (because we still believe in equality, progression, opportunity for all, no matter race, religion, gender and sexual identity, we are fighting for EVERYBODY). We can still call out the Right's bullshit and rub their face in it.
 

Gentlemen

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Oct 25, 2017
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I like the debate or rather the points of view put fourth by several people in an npr segment i heard not too long ago. There were a couple of gun owners against the nra one of which used to be a member.


So yeah at this point I have to agree. Fuck the nra. As demonstrated by the above opinion you don't have to be anti-gun to be against the nra. The things they champion are just despicable now.
We might have heard the same NPR segment, about how the NRA transformed from a niche group that promoted gun safety and hunter's rights to Team More Guns For All* around the time of the Civil Rights movement.
Which I'm sure is a complete coincidence.
 

I Don't Like

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Dec 11, 2017
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I guess the sentiment is nice but that's incredibly unprofessional and looks really bad.

Ah yes, with what's going on in America and the NRA going after high school kids who survived a massacre and their new president calling them civil terrorists, it's PROFESSIONALISM we need to worry about.

Or is it that you just don't really follow what the NRA has been up to? Your comment is way off-base and your concern for professionalism is completely misplaced.
 

Gaia Lanzer

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Oct 25, 2017
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I will be banned

And not a single tear was shed.
Oh well, people try to peddle that Reddit bullshit over here and they get iced. Here's hoping the Blue Wave's gonna kick ass, and also hoping those like Hokage learn to swim.

Ah yes, with what's going on in America and the NRA going after high school kids who survived a massacre and their new president calling them civil terrorists, it's PROFESSIONALISM we need to worry about.

Or is it that you just don't really follow what the NRA has been up to? Your comment is way off-base and your concern for professionalism is completely misplaced.
Not to mention the NRA's president is a LITERAL TRAITOR to our country. Fuck the NRA, fuck those who stand by them and fuck those that coddle those shitstains.