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Goldenroad

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Don't play the victim OP. You posted that to illicit a response. You got one. You'll live to Tweet another day and maybe be able to express an opinion without needlessly attacking others.
 

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Whole lotta people in this thread assuming the problem is that Gervais said something snide back and not the fact that he has a legion of crazy people willing to harass everyone he looks in the direction of.

But he is a well known celebrity. He should have a thicker skin and not be all salty every time somebody says something.
 

samoyed

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Oct 26, 2017
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"Fox News is not responsible for how its viewers choose to interpret their news, they're just like anyone else."

"Alex Jones is not responsible for his viewers treating his entertainment as real, he's just like anyone else."

God, you people are impossible. You are actually running the Alex Jones defense for the sake of Gervais.
 

JigglesBunny

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Oct 27, 2017
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This says loads about Gervais and his fan base while all it says in regards to you is that you have good taste for not liking his shit comedy.

Good on ya.
 

Cap G

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He's not "anyone else". If a supreme court justice went on twitter and said "maybe we should do away with the 22nd amendment", do you really think that would be responded to as if "anyone else" said it on twitter?

Really?

What a horrid fucking example. Ricky didn't make a controversial or political statement, he just said "fuck you too" to a guy that said his career is shit. That's a normal response.

A supreme court justice broadcasting political idealogies is the opposite of normal. It's controversial and newsworthy discourse.

The degree to which some of you are inclined to empathize with the ultra privileged over someone related to your immediate social standing is unreal, either aggressively naive or pathetically envious.

Just because I think that the users who decided to harass the OP over something Gervais already had settled through a direct rebuttal are at fault doesn't mean I'm sucking at the teat of the rich. Jesus christ.

If your response is "well of course there's going to be an angry mob for no reason" then you need to think of why you believe that should be so normalized, or whether or not it deserves pushback.
 

Cap G

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"Fox News is not responsible for how its viewers choose to interpret their news, they're just like anyone else."

"Alex Jones is not responsible for his viewers treating his entertainment as real, he's just like anyone else."

God, you people are impossible. You are actually running the Alex Jones defense for the sake of Gervais.

Both of those examples are full of actively misleading information, though. Both of those examples clearly cross lines in factuality that facilitate the audience response, as well as feature prominent calls to action.

What about Ricky's response was so over the line that he is deemed responsible for the clearly over the top reaction from twitter randoms? It seems like his response was a pretty uneventful rebuttal, not some call to action.
 

Surface of Me

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Lmao at the "well you talked shit" defense some are saying in this thread. Are we not allowed to talk about public figures anymore? Also, OP's tweet is the most benign "shit talking" I've ever seen if it's even that.
 

DonShula

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I'm actually siding with Gervais on this one. It's irrelevant that he's searching for his own name on Twitter. He got criticized and responded in kind.

If you don't like the heat of the response, either don't tweet inflammatory stuff to the public, or realize that Twitter is garbage and never log in again. If you wouldn't walk up to someone among their friends in public and call their career trash, don't do it on Twitter. It doesn't seem complex.
 

SageShinigami

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Celebrities searching their name is a bit small.

But. Them clapping back at people who insult them isn't.

BUT! They don't need any help, so "Twitter mobs" can fuck right the hell off. It's a conversation between two people.

Sorry you got swamped, OP.
 

Goldenroad

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Lmao at the "well you talked shit" defense some are saying in this thread. Are we not allowed to talk about public figures anymore? Also, OP's tweet is the most benign "shit talking" I've ever seen if it's even that.

No one is saying the OP shouldn't go on Twitter talking shit, but just that it's dumb to be offended that people would talk shit back. If you are posting on Twitter you are making yourself a public figure. Same rules apply across the board on Twitter.
 

The Boat

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The closer metaphor is if you said something in a normal voice to your friend about someone else in a public area where millions of other people are also saying other things about other subjects, then someone millions of miles away hears you and sends hundreds of his friends to find out where you live.
It's more like being in a public area created for discussion where everyone is on top of a soapbox shouting at each other through megaphones. Person A shouts shit about person C to person B, so person C and his friends shout back. The fact that the megaphone wasn't pointed at person C makes no difference if he is in hearing range.
 

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Bullshit, for him to see this he had to be searching his own name, he wasn't tagged and he wasn't called out, it's more like he was listening to two other people talk on the bus and got offended

Eeehhh I'm not going to defend Gervais here but twitter seems like the last place you would have a conversation if you wanted it private.

If I was on a bus and heard two people calling me a cunt, i would say something.
 

Codeblue

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God, those replies are pathetic. Imagine being an online warrior for a celebrity and making it your business to intervene when their ego gets bruised.
 

Nightwing123

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Ricky Gervais must be a really insecure person judging by the fact that he looked up his own name and responded to random criticism about him. This just makes me dislike him even more now.
 

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Celebrities are people too. Expecting them to react any differently than a regular human being is nonsense and stupid as hell.

Well i get that, still, the continuous contact with people who are always judging your work (because the work he does is intended to be consumed by the people) should make him more tolerant to these type of comments.

It's not like the OP insulted him and wished his death either. Just an off color (and exaggerated ) remark about his type of comedy and he replied back not only with a bullshit comment about how he is oh so successful, more than OP, effectively denigrating him. But also set his pack of fans against him. Stop defending Gervais idiotic behavior, this kind of cult of celebrity is awful.
 
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People with large followings on Twitter need to have some fucking responsibility with how they use the platform. Fucking quote tweeting people and directing their millions of followers directly at them is paramount to putting a giant red sign over their head saying 'HARASS THIS PERSON'
 

Azerare

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Talk shit as much as you like, just dont be so fucking surprised that someone responds.
Kinda surprising when OP didn't @ him. Dude literally just searched for tweets with his name in it. That's odd and a bit sad.

It' unfortunate OP, best you can do is turn off notifications and let it die down in a few days.
 

SinkFla

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No one is saying the OP shouldn't go on Twitter talking shit, but just that it's dumb to be offended that people would talk shit back. If you are posting on Twitter you are making yourself a public figure. Same rules apply across the board on Twitter.

When you shit talk Gervais with a friend without @'ing, nothing happens. The "victim" still has their multimillion dollar lifestyle.

When Gervais shit talks you while @'ing you, all his rabid fanbase spreads your name like wildfire opening you up to death threats and doing nothing to shut it down. The victim is humiliated without a multimillion dollar career and a million fans to fall back on.

Why is this so hard to understand? Lol. Of course Gervais could reply publically, it's his right. But what does he have to lose in doing so? Nothing, he only stands to gain more reaffirmation for his blatantly frail ego.
 

Orin_linwe

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Twitter has been amazingly successful in de-mystifying celebrity and - I suppose - also humanizing a group of people that often get treated as an unreachable (and desirable) "other".

It makes me think of "the death of the movie star", which basically argues that much of the power of celebrity lies in being present enough to be know, but inaccessible, and fundamentally alien, in order to maintain an odd sort of social power through assumed excellence.

For all that is tedious about Twitter, this is probably one of its richest gifts.

As for the OP, I advice you to turn off your computer, get a bottle wine and a good sandwich, and walk towards the nearest picturesque spot in your town/vicinity.

This is my stand-by strategy, and has yet to fail me. I haven't read every post in this thread, but feel pretty sure that none of this will matter - for anyone involved - in two days.
 

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It's lame that these "celebrities" have nothing better to do than search their name on twitter and retweet anything negative in order to sic their rabid fan bases on the account. I've seen it done with these alt-right assholes
 

Cipherr

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I mean, isn't that what you were looking for?

I'll admit to not understanding the allure of sharing thoughts probably best kept internal and broadcasting them to the world because "reasons". But if you get that attention in response... I mean, and? Outside of people crossing the line (which does happen and is NOT excusable) some return tweets from the person you took a shot at over the internet was/is one of the possibilities you were 100% aware of when you decided to type that.

Whether he searched it or not is completely irrelevant. Sure, he didn't need to search his own name, and you also didn't need to share your random opinion across the internets either.

It's lame that these "celebrities" have nothing better to do than search their name on twitter

Perhaps. I find it equally lame that average people who aren't sitting bored because they are wealthy beyond need take time out of their day to tweet shots and randoms they don't know. Ill never understand trying to pretend that taking that shot at some person over the internet is somehow so much more mature and "okay" than them responding.
 

Messofanego

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No one said that. But OP being offended that he got shit on back after shit talking someone publicly is the problem.
I mean, isn't that what you were looking for?


I'll admit to not understanding the allure of sharing thoughts probably best kept internal and broadcasting them to the world because "reasons". But if you get that attention in response... I mean, and? Outside of people crossing the line (which does happen and is NOT excusable) some return tweets from the person you took a shot at over the internet was/is one of the possibilities you were 100% aware of when you decided to type that.


Whether he searched it or not is completely irrelevant. Sure, he didn't need to search his own name, and you also didn't need to share your random opinion across the internets either.
Bruh, he tweeted about OP so his millions of followers could see and he wouldn't have to do the dirty work. If he was not wanting to sic his army on OP, he would have just replied in the tweet chain.
 

Dracon

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Shaming OP is a pretty lame reaction here, the problem here or on Twitter is the same: the hoard behavior.

OP was talking about a public figure, not to a public figure, and people entitled with public opinion power have to put themselves limits, he probably was just using your tweet as some stair quote to say something witty, but it sucks, sorry for you OP.
 

Kermit

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You mocked and belittled him, he responded without a personal attack. You shouldn't have been rude if you didn't want a backlash. You know what Twitter's like.

He created The Office. Even if everything post-Extras has been crap, your comment is off-base. Don't be a knob next time.
 

AtomLung

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Public figures are human beings, and a lot of them have Twitter accounts. I'm really sorry you're getting an inconvenient number of notifications though.
 

Goldenroad

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When you shit talk Gervais with a friend without @'ing, nothing happens. The "victim" still has their multimillion dollar lifestyle.

When Gervais shit talks you while @'ing you, all his rabid fanbase spreads your name like wildfire opening you up to death threats and doing nothing to shut it down. The victim is humiliated without a multimillion dollar career and a million fans to fall back on.

Why is this so hard to understand? Lol. Of course Gervais could reply publically, it's his right. But what does he have to lose in doing so? Nothing, he only stands to gain more reaffirmation for his blatantly frail ego.

It's almost like you responding to me in this thread despite me not @ing you. Why even bother responding to me. Gervais does have nothing to lose. Neither does OP. It's just some bullshit Twitter thing that everyone will forget about tomorrow. OP got his 15 minutes and even got a 10 page Era thread about it. No one is really going to be hurt by any of this at the end of the day.
 

Cipherr

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Bruh, he tweeted about OP so his millions of followers could see and he wouldn't have to do the dirty work. If he was not wanting to sic his army on OP, he would have just replied in the tweet chain.

And the OP tweeted his random fucking opinion out into the internet so others could see instead of keeping that shit to himself. Once you go there I have zero sympathy for the person attacked not responding in the exact fucking specific method that you would prefer just because you are scared of suddenly thousands of people doing to you, what you just did to him.... Judging someone you don't fucking know from a distance.

You literally signed up for that shit when you sent that tweet. Over the top abuse/doxxing and the other shit that can happen as a result isn't excused; but the possibility of, or existence of that terrible behaviour fails to shroud that your initial action was in just as poor taste as his.

Talk shit as much as you like, just dont be so fucking surprised that someone responds.

This.... Sorry but good luck getting sympathy from the generation that aged before the existence of social media. Once upon a time people expected a reaction when they ran their mouth off at someone. It's like a heckler crying about getting roasted after being an ass towards a comedian at a local club.
 
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Well i get that, still, the continuous contact with people who are always judging your work (because the work he does is intended to be consumed by the people) should make him more tolerant to these type of comments.

It's not like the OP insulted him and wished his death either. Just an off color (and exaggerated ) remark about his type of comedy and he replied back not only with a bullshit comment about how he is oh so successful, more than OP, effectively denigrating him. But also set his pack of fans against him. Stop defending Gervais idiotic behavior, this kind of cult of celebrity is awful.

I'm not defending anyone, I'm calling out OP's own behavior. Also, I don't even like Ricky Gervais, so you attempting to use that "cult of celebrity" as some sort of argument against me is really stupid and childish.
 

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I'm not defending anyone, I'm calling out OP's own behavior. Also, I don't even like Ricky Gervais, so you attempting to use that "cult of celebrity" as some sort of argument against me is really stupid and childish.

This is the second time you call me stupid with (ironically) really dense arguments yourself. which are your arguments against the rest of my reply? talking about childish.
 

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Public figures are human beings, and a lot of them have Twitter accounts. I'm really sorry you're getting an inconvenient number of notifications though.
If I'm Ricky Gervais I couldn't be remotely bothered enough to search my name on twitter to see who fucks with me or not because at the end of the day I'm still a rich fuck.
 

Messofanego

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And the OP tweeted his random fucking opinion out into the internet so others could see instead of keeping that shit to himself. Once you go there I have zero sympathy for the person attacked not responding in the exact fucking specific method that you would prefer just because you are scared of suddenly thousands of people doing to you, what you just did to him.... Judging someone you don't fucking know from a distance.

You literally signed up for that shit when you sent that tweet. Over the top abuse/doxxing and the other shit that can happen as a result isn't excused; but the possibility of, or existence of that terrible behaviour fails to shroud that your initial action was in just as poor taste as his.
It's not about Ricky Gervais responding. He is within his rights to. But celebrities got to have a sense of responsibility when bringing up randos on Twitter who they want to set their armies after. Use your power responsibly. You know if OP gets doxxed and his online life ruined, you're just making the case for OP actually.
 
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