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DrROBschiz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,494
Whatever the reason I still dont like it, lets see on future games or G rank versions


this gen so far Capcom x Nintendo relation have been the weirdest. Capcom saw tons of success on 3DS, was likely teh 1st 3rd party shown Switch prototype, Nintendo took direct feedback from em. and yet they have been giving Nintendo the most MEH support. Bethesda, the company that publicly shamed the WiiU and complained that "Nintendo never asked us what do we wanted for their console" been trying harder to support Switch

and there is always the thin foil hats conspiracies (although likely fake)
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I just think MHW is much larger than I expected given the kind of leap they were taking. Its a little unfair to expect content to rival an end of generation homage compilation game like XX

But if thats the bar you expect to be cleared then yeah you need to hold of till late Gen 5

As far as Nintendo and Capcom? Seems like they are working stuff out these days right?
 

Manu

Member
Oct 27, 2017
17,183
Buenos Aires, Argentina
I just don't understand why old fans of MH take every oportunity to shit on World instead of using that energy to get people to try the older games.

It'd be nice to see something like a "MHW new players, check out GU on Switch" thread with some comparisons and shit.
 

Lugalbanda

Member
Apr 26, 2018
62
Mira
The weapon balance is horrible (The GL heat guage in MHX(X) was absolutely insulting, and the way they handled nerfing CB was pretty bad too, among other things), but other than that it's a pretty solid game. It'll be a good introduction for people who want to fight the older monsters and get a taste for some of the more difficult quests in MH games.
 
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DrROBschiz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,494
The original reason given was cause they wanted parity with the 3DS version this had Cross play with in Japan. But there is no 3DS version here so let's fix that framerate

Should be patchable on Switch right?

Just dont know if the effort will be made but it should be passed on as feedback cuz why not

I just don't understand why old fans of MH take every oportunity to shit on World instead of using that energy to get people to try the older games.

It'd be nice to see something like a "MHW new players, check out GU on Switch" thread with some comparisons and shit.

Agree 100%
 

Chindogg

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,241
East Lansing, MI
I just don't understand why old fans of MH take every oportunity to shit on World instead of using that energy to get people to try the older games.

It'd be nice to see something like a "MHW new players, check out GU on Switch" thread with some comparisons and shit.

The same can be said of World fans blasting games they never played.

World's a fine game, but it has some glaring problems. There's nothing wrong with criticizing a game's lacking issues in comparison to previous iterations. It's the same for people who argue over Street Fighter iterations.
 

Wizzly

Member
Jan 10, 2018
558
which should not really be that hard given is MT Framework, and tru Switch is not a power house, but MHW could remove lots of Texture, foliage, polygon count and fit on Switch.

options are that maybe Capcom didnt saw it profitable due to Sony deal for Asia exclusivity, like what would be the point of a World downgraded port if it will miss the market that more likely will eat it up (JP)

I guess MHXX is an easy port and a test on Switch to see how many potential sales it can do.
Perhaps MHW will be ported to Switch if MHXX will do awesome sales.
 

DrROBschiz

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,494
I honestly haven't seen this happen in this thread, or at least not to the extent I've seen World bashing.

If anything, I've seen tons of people excited to try this game after only having played World.

I mean its no secret the amount of chaos MH scene has had over the past few years

Thankfully maybe we can move forward?
 

xEik

The Fallen
Nov 17, 2017
4,422
Principality of Catalonia
Old school right? You create a "room", people join in, you press start?
Mostly. You create a room, only 4 people can join it (I believe not 100% sure) someone posts a quest, people join it, poster starts it.
It's a bit more limited but as a result it is more focused. It forces people to cooperate, something the SOS system dilutes.
Old school rooms are a blast if you find a good group willing to cooperate. They are miserable if you cannot find a good group, specially with randoms.
 

Pablo Mesa

Banned
Nov 23, 2017
6,878
I guess MHXX is an easy port and a test on Switch to see how many potential sales it can do.
Perhaps MHW will be ported to Switch if MHXX will do awesome sales.
XX already did MEH cause it was mostly a compilation of X at full price. game already was ported on Switch, gods know what pushed Capcom to finally localize it.

If this game is what capcom intends to use a measuring stick for "care" they are giving the win side a heavy handicap from the start imo
 

Vena

Community Resettler
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,441
There may be something there but it still wouldn't make sense. Why would Sony pay them to not release a Switch port of an old titlethe west for a year, but allow them to do it in Japan where World is exclusive to PS4?

Western market, probably, was the focus. World given Asian exclusivity is enough over an old, months-before-World release of MHXX in Japan. XX in Japan (3DS/Switch) came out nowhere near World and it was exhausted largely by the 3DS even earlier, and then you have the announcement just after that cut off the legs/appeal of XX Switch.

Seems fairly par and explicable. So 365 it is. :P
 

CaseyVGCx

Member
Oct 27, 2017
286
Boston
I honestly haven't seen this happen in this thread, or at least not to the extent I've seen World bashing.

If anything, I've seen tons of people excited to try this game after only having played World.

if you been following this thread, there are a few cases. If went to the announcement on Nintendo twitter, it looks just as bad as console war arguements
 

Rhowm

Member
Nov 27, 2017
1,670
maybe MH:W would help cause Mainstream recognition of the brand, but at the same time same said main stream is extremely graphics oriented and many of the "convenient" changes in world will be missing



im 90% sure they scrapped that, and just when with UE4, the only new engine they have used is whatever they used for RE7



World is MTFramework. one of the most scaling-able engines ever.
Apologies, my mistake, & you're right MT Framework is an excellent engine that's been used extensively in other Capcom games. That being said, MW:H still pushes the PS4 & Xbox 1 to the limit & it's worth being at least open to the possibility that putting it on switch would be take time & resources that could be used elsewhere & it doesn't necessarily make them "lazy" for not doing so.
 

Chackan

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Oct 31, 2017
5,097
Mostly. You create a room, only 4 people can join it (I believe not 100% sure) someone posts a quest, people join it, poster starts it.
It's a bit more limited but as a result it is more focused. It forces people to cooperate, something the SOS system dilutes.
Old school rooms are a blast if you find a good group willing to cooperate. They are miserable if you cannot find a good group, specially with randoms.

Hummm, gonna be playing with randoms mostly :S And online, not local.
 

Jafku1

Chicken Chaser
Member
Oct 25, 2017
591
Apologies if this has already been answered, but is this the japanese version from last year just translated for the west?
 

Greg NYC3

Member
Oct 26, 2017
12,495
Miami
Apologies if this has already been answered, but is this the japanese version from last year just translated for the west?
Yes, I think that they've made some tweaks to past localization projects and they'll most likely be removing some of the licensed armor sets but there's no official word yet on any changes so more than likely it's just a translation.
 

Eolz

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
7,601
FR
There may be something there but it still wouldn't make sense. Why would Sony pay them to not release a Switch port of an old titlethe west for a year, but allow them to do it in Japan where World is exclusive to PS4?
Oh yeah, I didn't say that about the Sony bit, just that it's interesting that it's indeed a year later, nearly day for day, like some other recent exclusives.
MHW was a PS4 exclusive in asia, and Capcom always knew it was going to sell less than portable entries there anyway. That's the western localization that is interesting.

Good post from Vena about it too:
Western market, probably, was the focus. World given Asian exclusivity is enough over an old, months-before-World release of MHXX in Japan. XX in Japan (3DS/Switch) came out nowhere near World and it was exhausted largely by the 3DS even earlier, and then you have the announcement just after that cut off the legs/appeal of XX Switch.

Seems fairly par and explicable. So 365 it is. :P


Should be patchable on Switch right?

Just dont know if the effort will be made but it should be passed on as feedback cuz why not
Should be patchable, but they have no reason to do it.
Would likely be unlocked framerate rather than 60fps, like nearly every MH release, but it sure would be nice yeah.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Though the 3DS ones didn't work mainly because I believe of the region blocking.

As on PSP it was fine.
Online? Local play PSP had region lock, as me and my cousin discovered trying to play FU together for the first time lol.

Last game I played was 4U so yeah I guess generations had some improvements I wasn't aware of.
Generations has stuff like hold a button to gather instead of pressing multiple times, and the speed of gathering is faster so you don't have to crouch to quick gather.
 

Tenbatsu

Member
Oct 27, 2017
308
Tell me more. I only played about an hour of Generations on 3DS a long time ago. I mained bow in MHW though. What do I have to look forward to?
To activate brave mode, fill up the brave gauge by firing at the monster. You can fill your gauge faster by using brave reloading.

Once you're in brave mode, you will be granted the ability to do crouching fire and the ability to run and slide after a roll/reload. During a slide or a roll, you are also able to cancel and instantly go into crouching fire mode. Do note that you will lose your brave mode over time and in order to maintain the gauge, you would have to keep firing at the monster.

Below is an extremely high level gameplay demonstrating brave style heavy bow in MHXX for Switch against a max level Bloodlust Diablos. I will spoiler it just in case:
 

Radline

Member
Oct 28, 2017
925
I can't wait to get this. I've put plenty of hours into MHW and I love its QOL improvements, but I'm willing to take a step back into the classic formula for more content. MHW is fun, but I just wish it had a larger monster roster. The save transfer feature is enough for me to guarantee a purchase.
 

Greg NYC3

Member
Oct 26, 2017
12,495
Miami
To activate brave mode, fill up the brave gauge by firing at the monster. You can fill your gauge faster by using brave reloading.

Once you're in brave mode, you will be granted the ability to do crouching fire and the ability to run and slide after a roll/reload. During a slide or a roll, you are also able to cancel and instantly go into crouching fire mode. Do note that you will lose your brave mode over time and in order to maintain the gauge, you would have to keep firing at the monster.

Below is an extremely high level gameplay demonstrating brave style heavy bow in MHXX for Switch against a max level Bloodlust Diablos. I will spoiler it just in case:

Man, watching that video, as awesome as it is, made me realize how much I'm going to miss seeing the damage values. It really helped me get much better with the range weapons.
 

xEik

The Fallen
Nov 17, 2017
4,422
Principality of Catalonia
Hummm, gonna be playing with randoms mostly :S And online, not local.
Then my recommendation is to try to make some online friends whenever you cross paths with a good player.
I have absolutely no idea how the friend system works on the Switch. I made a few online friends in Adhoc Party almost 10 years ago just by playing MH and that was a convoluted mess so I guess you should have no problem nowadays.
 
Then my recommendation is to try to make some online friends whenever you cross paths with a good player.
I have absolutely no idea how the friend system works on the Switch. I made a few in Adhoc Party almost 10 years ago just by playing MH and that was a convoluted mess so I guess you should have no problem nowadays.
If this works like the other 3DS Monster Hunter titles, you'll be able to add players directly to your Switch friends list, bypassing the other methods entirely.
 

impact

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
5,380
Tampa
I just don't understand why old fans of MH take every oportunity to shit on World instead of using that energy to get people to try the older games.

It'd be nice to see something like a "MHW new players, check out GU on Switch" thread with some comparisons and shit.
Platform wars bro

In an ideal world Gen would be coming to PC/XB/PS and Switch would be getting World, but at least the games are being localized now. My only issue is I'd need to pay for another online service if I wanted to play with my boy Ridley.
 

TreIII

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,280
Columbia, MD
I mean its no secret the amount of chaos MH scene has had over the past few years

Thankfully maybe we can move forward?
I think the only way we'll truly be able to move forward is once we have an idea of what Ichinose and his team's next game shapes up to be like. Then we can just have a nice idea of what to expect from console and "portable" MH's respective directions, going forward.

Again, I'm fully on-board with the idea that they may be doing something quite different. Maybe it'll be a "spinoff" of World's basic ideas, with adjustments made to account for a console that has TV and portable modes. Maybe it'll be more of a classic MonHun with some of World's QoL applied. Or maybe they have their own ideas altogether for how a "5th gen" MH game can go, and "arcadey" stuff like X/XX's Styles and Hunter Arts are just a foretaste of what's to come (still would like those Hunting Dog and Boomerang weapons they teased postmortem for X's development). I dunno! The possibilities are vast, atm, and that's honestly pretty exciting.

Either way, the main takeaway I'm hoping for is that there will be a little bit of "something for everyone", and people will be free to favor whichever MH style they choose. All I care about is that something that continues where XX/GU left off, thematically, is in the cards, as I definitely prefer many aspects of that game, and portable-style Monster Hunter, in general, over the direction World chose.
 

Arih

Member
Jan 19, 2018
471
If i only played MHW, is this very different? Because i remember the OT from MHW and people were saying there were a loooooooot of quality of life changes in MHW.
 

NSESN

▲ Legend ▲
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Oct 25, 2017
25,320
Call me crazy, but I think this will sell well even after all the controversy.
 

Chackan

Member
Oct 31, 2017
5,097
Then my recommendation is to try to make some online friends whenever you cross paths with a good player.
I have absolutely no idea how the friend system works on the Switch. I made a few online friends in Adhoc Party almost 10 years ago just by playing MH and that was a convoluted mess so I guess you should have no problem nowadays.

On the Switch you have a "Recently players met in online games" kind of option, so it's cool!
 

xEik

The Fallen
Nov 17, 2017
4,422
Principality of Catalonia
One thing I won't envy from the old timers in the eventual MHGU OT: explaining in every page of the thread why is your hunter stuck in place when chugging a potion and the flex afterwards. It was tiring 10 years ago, imagine having to explain it to those that are used to being able to move while healing or even roll-cancel it.
 

jackal27

Member
Oct 25, 2017
940
Joplin, MO
I can't wait to get this. I've put plenty of hours into MHW and I love its QOL improvements, but I'm willing to take a step back into the classic formula for more content. MHW is fun, but I just wish it had a larger monster roster. The save transfer feature is enough for me to guarantee a purchase.
This is pretty much exactly where I'm at. I just want more Monster Hunter, particularly on the go. I love MHW, but I miss some of my classic boys. Zinogre would have been amazing in World. I'm also just super excited to have Monster Hunter on my favorite piece of hardware at the moment.
 

Redcrayon

Patient hunter
On Break
Oct 27, 2017
12,713
UK
Hummm, gonna be playing with randoms mostly :S And online, not local.
The way the rooms work and the search function let's you set things up well though. When you start a room, you can select from a huge number of 'targets', and state that the room is targeting any monster in the game, taking turns to post a quest, grinding a specific quest etc etc. The room host can set it to private, kick people out etc. If you start a room saying 'x quest', and pin the quest up on the board, everyone joining that room knows your intention. I used to set up a specific room for when grinding an item or looking to advance on an urgent quest, and 'round robin' rooms (everyone posts a quest in turn) when just playing for fun. For the most part, the community is great, and if not, it's really easy to just leave, join another room or start one, put the kettle on and wait for fresh hunters. I rarely had to wait long.

Generally the accepted community etiquette for whose turn it is to post, or if you are in the wrong room, is pretty obvious after a short while. If someone has helped you out, stick around to at least help them with one run is my general rule of thumb, even if you're keen to move on.
 

Black_Red

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Oct 27, 2017
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I just don't understand why old fans of MH take every oportunity to shit on World instead of using that energy to get people to try the older games.

It'd be nice to see something like a "MHW new players, check out GU on Switch" thread with some comparisons and shit.


Its nit about systen wars likelother poster said, is the same with every online game changing things to make things easier/more simple.
Smash melee -> Brawl and 4
Wow / MOBA patches, etc...

When you make things simpler most players would agree it makes things better, but the game also loses complexity that hardcore players were used to (like the debate about removing IV un Pokémon).