Well, hopefully something happens now. Sony should at least do an investigation. At least those responsible aren't there, anymore.
Why do you think Sony didn't know the names before this tweet?
Well, hopefully something happens now. Sony should at least do an investigation. At least those responsible aren't there, anymore.
The man lost his job for being harassed. ND can probably say more than "they don't work here anymore".
ND already said that's not what happened. Why would you expect them to say something differrent just because names are now attached to this claim?
The problem there's no proof to back his claim hereThat tweet doesn't paint no one in a good light. Cogburn, Ballestra and Zavadil all dismissed him. And Zavadil is not ND, but Sony.
The idea that Kotaku did an "investigation" is a bit much. ND and Sony should've run a full one, though.
Three current and former Naughty Dog employees, all speaking under condition of anonymity so as not to jeopardize their careers, all said they had not heard anything about Ballard's sexual harassment allegations until this weekend and that they were disturbed by the news. Those employees said they did not know or want to speculate who the alleged sexual harasser may be. Each discipline at the studio typically has two leads, and by one estimate there are around two dozen at Naughty Dog.
One current Naughty Dog employee said that he and co-workers he spoke to were "blind-sided" by the news, and that while he believed Ballard's allegations, he also believed that the studio had been unaware of them. "There definitely is not a culture of covering up bad behavior," that person said. "I and quite a lot of other people wouldn't be here if there was."
It's certainly something, and the only piece of independent investigation we have right now. At the very least it proves that "toxic environment" is probably not true, and explains why Sony fired him.One person who worked with Ballard said that the difficulties began then, and that Ballard had told people he was filing HR complaints, although to that person's knowledge, those complaints were not about sexual harassment but about other issues. Ballard had said he felt harassed for leaving and then returning to the studio, that person said. The person added that they did not know about the sexual harassment allegations until Ballard posted them on Facebook last weekend.
In early 2016, the situation worsened, and Naughty Dog employees confirm that, as Ballard said on Twitter, he had a difficult mental breakdown. Some of Ballard's troubles became more widely known in late February of that year after he sent a hostile e-mail to a tech artist that was CCed to everyone at the company, two people said. Various rumors circulated at the studio and the situation was escalated from Naughty Dog's internal human resources department to Sony's HR.
You always give the victim the benefit of the doubt, alwaysSo I have to ask for all the people wanting the accused dudes head.......
.....How the fuck do you know it's not a false allegation? Unless you lot have some substantial evidence besides the word of one guy, it's pretty sick what some people here are saying. Some of you making it though you watched it happen, as though this is an open and shut case.
Doubt he cares at this point. This was probably just done for his piece of mind. If anyone drags it to court it'll be them, which would end badly because you don't just put this out there without receipts. Glad he outed them. And shame on ND for not standing by him.This seems like something that would be incredibly hard to prove, plus neither people even work at naughty dog anymore. Unless he wants to bring this guy to court I'm not sure what he wants to see happen here.
What does this guy have to gain from bullshitting? If a proper investigation is done and he lied, he's OUT of this industry for good. He's absolutely done. Not to mention the false charges he'll face and fees.So I have to ask for all the people wanting the accused dudes head.......
.....How the fuck do you know it's not a false allegation? Unless you lot have some substantial evidence besides the word of one guy, it's pretty sick what some people here are saying. Some of you making it though you watched it happen, as though this is an open and shut case.
So I have to ask for all the people wanting the accused dudes head.......
.....How the fuck do you know it's not a false allegation? Unless you lot have some substantial evidence besides the word of one guy, it's pretty sick what some people here are saying. Some of you making it though you watched it happen, as though this is an open and shut case.
Perfect username.So I have to ask for all the people wanting the accused dudes head.......
.....How the fuck do you know it's not a false allegation? Unless you lot have some substantial evidence besides the word of one guy, it's pretty sick what some people here are saying. Some of you making it though you watched it happen, as though this is an open and shut case.
What does this guy have to gain from bullshitting? If a proper investigation is done and he lied, he's OUT of this industry for good. He's absolutely done. Not to mention the false charges he'll face and fees.
Why not doing it one year ago ? Why not using this to sue ?Perfect username.
He's clearly not out to gain anything. I don't think he throw names out there without being able to back it up. This stuff can easily be proven. He can share emails and whatnot about his complaints, and how ND reacted.
Huh?Why do you think Sony didn't know the names before this tweet?
Sucks nothing will be done to punish the people.No one involved in the allegations works at Sony anymore. Even the HR rep he names has left. Seems like this allegation might have been kept off the record except for his firing from the giant group email.
My guess: He already had proof, but he still wanted to work in the industry so he was quiet. Now he's probably like, "Whatever. Fuck these guys."My only question is why wait this long? Was he able to get hard proof?
No one involved in the allegations works at Sony anymore. Even the HR rep he names has left. Seems like this allegation might have been kept off the record except for his firing from the giant group email.
In law, it's exactly the opposite actually:
Benefit of the doubt means that a defendant is considered innocent and acquitted by the jury if his or her guilt has not been proven beyond reasonable doubt.
My guess: He already had proof, but he still wanted to work in the industry so he was quiet. Now he's probably like, "Whatever. Fuck these guys."
While I'm not out here calling for blood, it's bold of him to name that many people if this is totally fake. He has nothing to gain, could fuck his career in the future if he was to lie like this.So I have to ask for all the people wanting the accused dudes head.......
.....How the fuck do you know it's not a false allegation? Unless you lot have some substantial evidence besides the word of one guy, it's pretty sick what some people here are saying. Some of you making it though you watched it happen, as though this is an open and shut case.
This entire site was founded on believing victim's, my dude.So I have to ask for all the people wanting the accused dudes head.......
.....How the fuck do you know it's not a false allegation? Unless you lot have some substantial evidence besides the word of one guy, it's pretty sick what some people here are saying. Some of you making it though you watched it happen, as though this is an open and shut case.
Fully agreed with this. Almost zero chance there's any kind of public statement but I do hope the people in charge are taking it seriously and work to prevent a situation like this from happening again and to ensure a more appropriate response.Sad that stuff like this happens =(
Even if they do not work at Sony anymore, ND and Sony as a whole should reflect on this situation and take it into consideration. Therefore they have a responsibility to ensure better practices, procedures or actions against these things should they occur again in the future. Stuff like this should not happen anywhere in a workplace or any other environment.
Well, that's for sure.Well, they clearly need to examine their business practices at the very least. This seemingly was handled poorly at the time
Except, for a variety of reasons, that's very unlikely to happen.An apology for creating such a toxic working environment? Promise to do better next time?
Just looked at his Twitter, says he works at Giant Squid (ABZÛ). And going by his other tweets it appears that he was just pissed that they made it seem like he was crazy.Where is he working now? If he had evidence and isn't working in the industry I figured he would have come out with it long ago
A court of law doesn't find you innocent, they find you not guilty. There is an important distinction between the two. And just cus you're found not guilty in a criminal court, you can be found guilty in a civil court where the barrier of proof is lower. Not that it really matters here very much, as this isn't a court of any kind.
I really dislike this line of thinking, and I especially changed my stance on it when that article of those two dudes who spent 20+ years in jail for being falsely accused by someone.
Cogburn was a trash developer anyway. He ruined one of the best multiplayer games on the market. .....
What even is this post?Cogburn was a trash developer anyway. He ruined one of the best multiplayer games on the market. Uncharted 2 was amazing and had a very dedicated community. Then Cogburn ruined Uncharted 3 with all the casual BS thrown into the game. After he got ripped for it, he claimed Uncharted 4 would be much more like what fans of 2 would want. In the end, he basically took a mod of Uncharted 3 MP and fused it with TLoU MP and Destiny (why do grenades recharge in an Uncharted game?) to make Uncharted 4 MP. Those of us that loved UC2 MP kept giving NaughtyDog feedback throughout the years. Time and time again we would complain about the same issues, only to have Cogburn spit in our faces. Some of my favorite gaming memories were playing UC2 MP back in high school. Some of my most aggravating gaming memories were playing UC3 MP. And some of the most boring times I've had gaming have been playing UC4 MP. It really says something about how Cogburn viewed us fans, when our #1 requested feature on forums for Uncharted 4 was to have a classic mode, and instead, months later he gives us Kill Confirmed. At some point he eventually gave us a beta for a classic mode that was only available a certain time, and after that I just stopped caring about UC4 MP. It's such a shame that UC4 has one of the best story modes ever in a game, but the MP was so average. Maybe Cogburn should have listened to us fans and the MP wouldn't have died 1 month after release...
did you really just write a big ass paragraph about Uncharted multiplayer in a thread about sexual harassment?Cogburn was a trash developer anyway. He ruined one of the best multiplayer games on the market. Uncharted 2 was amazing and had a very dedicated community. Then Cogburn ruined Uncharted 3 with all the casual BS thrown into the game. After he got ripped for it, he claimed Uncharted 4 would be much more like what fans of 2 would want. In the end, he basically took a mod of Uncharted 3 MP and fused it with TLoU MP and Destiny (why do grenades recharge in an Uncharted game?) to make Uncharted 4 MP. Those of us that loved UC2 MP kept giving NaughtyDog feedback throughout the years. Time and time again we would complain about the same issues, only to have Cogburn spit in our faces. Some of my favorite gaming memories were playing UC2 MP back in high school. Some of my most aggravating gaming memories were playing UC3 MP. And some of the most boring times I've had gaming have been playing UC4 MP. It really says something about how Cogburn viewed us fans, when our #1 requested feature on forums for Uncharted 4 was to have a classic mode, and instead, months later he gives us Kill Confirmed. At some point he eventually gave us a beta for a classic mode that was only available a certain time, and after that I just stopped caring about UC4 MP. It's such a shame that UC4 has one of the best story modes ever in a game, but the MP was so average. Maybe Cogburn should have listened to us fans and the MP wouldn't have died 1 month after release...
There seems to be a pattern emerging with how Sony deals with this kinda stuff.
Not well.
Apparently giant squid games. Guys who made AbzuWhere is he working now? If he had evidence and isn't working in the industry I figured he would have come out with it long ago
Cogburn was a trash developer anyway. He ruined one of the best multiplayer games on the market. Uncharted 2 was amazing and had a very dedicated community. Then Cogburn ruined Uncharted 3 with all the casual BS thrown into the game. After he got ripped for it, he claimed Uncharted 4 would be much more like what fans of 2 would want. In the end, he basically took a mod of Uncharted 3 MP and fused it with TLoU MP and Destiny (why do grenades recharge in an Uncharted game?) to make Uncharted 4 MP. Those of us that loved UC2 MP kept giving NaughtyDog feedback throughout the years. Time and time again we would complain about the same issues, only to have Cogburn spit in our faces. Some of my favorite gaming memories were playing UC2 MP back in high school. Some of my most aggravating gaming memories were playing UC3 MP. And some of the most boring times I've had gaming have been playing UC4 MP. It really says something about how Cogburn viewed us fans, when our #1 requested feature on forums for Uncharted 4 was to have a classic mode, and instead, months later he gives us Kill Confirmed. At some point he eventually gave us a beta for a classic mode that was only available a certain time, and after that I just stopped caring about UC4 MP. It's such a shame that UC4 has one of the best story modes ever in a game, but the MP was so average. Maybe Cogburn should have listened to us fans and the MP wouldn't have died 1 month after release...
Didn't they know about the Quantum Dream stuff too? And did nothing there also?
Not that I recall. QD isn't even a Sony studioDidn't they know about the Quantum Dream stuff too? And did nothing there also?
I think they also used the exact same response for both stories, unless I'm very much mistaken? Like the exact wording and everything.Didn't they know about the Quantum Dream stuff too? And did nothing there also?