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RiOrius

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Oct 27, 2017
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Is it exaggeration though? When there's so many reports of clearly unarmed and co-operative black people being shot? Look at Philando Castle. Mentioned he had a legally owned gun in order to give the officer info, gets shot 7 times for it because the cop automatically went to "this black guy is going to pull a gun on me".
Or Stephon Clark, shot to death in his grandparents back yard....six of the eight hits were to his back, the other TWELVE missed. Twenty shots total. All because the guy was holding his phone.
Police overreaction leading to the deaths of people of colour is disturbingly common. So many high profile examples, most officers escaping any punishment, all for imagined slights and irrational fear. Police aggression toward poc is a HUGE issue, so calling them on an innocent person for the heinous crime of being asleep, yeah, it's flipping a coin on whether or not the victim of the malicious call gets out of it unscathed. Even if they don't get shot, people have been choked to death and suffocated by cops in the act of arresting them. Shit is scary as hell.

You are vastly underselling the danger of calling the cops.
I'm not talking about the risk involved, I'm talking about intent. The person calling the cops didn't intend to get the black student killed. There is zero evidence that that possibility ever entered her mind.

I'm also not sure that the Yale Campus Police have much history of police brutality. Yeah, NYPD and LAPD and small town squads are full of scumbags, but campus cops? I'm really surprised they even have guns.
 

Commedieu

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KimiNewt

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That would make almost too much sense
(About having a fine for calling the police for "no reason") I think that's problematic. Think of a situation where a person thinks they see some sort of conflict, but is unsure whether it requires police intervention. They don't because they're afraid of a fine-- and it escalated. Alternatively, someone calls in an actual emergency but it dissipates before the cops can get there (or it turns out not to be an emergency) - they get fined for no reason.

What you need is cops not shooting/hurting/arresting people for no reason, not avoiding calls to the cops altogether - better safe than sorry.
 

Enzom21

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I'm not talking about the risk involved, I'm talking about intent. The person calling the cops didn't intend to get the black student killed. There is zero evidence that that possibility ever entered her mind.

I'm also not sure that the Yale Campus Police have much history of police brutality. Yeah, NYPD and LAPD and small town squads are full of scumbags, but campus cops? I'm really surprised they even have guns.
Wait, you think these are the only places with police brutality?
Also... come on, come on, and come the fuck on. If you had bothered to make a five second google search you would have saved yourself an idiotic post.
 
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RiOrius

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Wait, you think these are the only places with police brutality?
Also... come on, come on, come on. If you had bothered to make a five second google search you would have saved yourself an idiotic post.
No, I don't think those are the only places with police issues, but I do think there's an important qualitative difference between them and Yale University. I expect better of Yale.

Similarly, are those three instances literally all of the campus police brutality in existence? Presumably not, but even still it's telling that of the best examples you can find, one's clearly not racially motivated and another is unnecessary roughness but falls well short of fatal injuries.

Yet here you are, accusing me of idiocy, when half the first page of the thread is expressing support for the sentiment that "some of these white folks are actively tryna get us killed." Good job.
 

motherless

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Nov 6, 2017
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YouTube video of interaction:
https://youtu.be/QaNbyWG45fc

The police at least attempt to do their due diligence regarding verifying her student ID. The part that bothers me the most is that the white female is taking pictures of her throughout probably assuming that she was being a hero by photographing a trespasser or criminal.

The presumption of guilt on her part makes my stomach churn.

Is that Star Wars music at the end? It sounds familiar.


In my experience police will keep tabs on people that abuse the system and call without merit. They do their job as mandated but eventually repeat offenders can get flagged.
 

Enzom21

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No, I don't think those are the only places with police issues, but I do think there's an important qualitative difference between them and Yale University. I expect better of Yale.

Similarly, are those three instances literally all of the campus police brutality in existence? Presumably not, but even still it's telling that of the best examples you can find, one's clearly not racially motivated and another is unnecessary roughness but falls well short of fatal injuries.

Yet here you are, accusing me of idiocy, when half the first page of the thread is expressing support for the sentiment that "some of these white folks are actively tryna get us killed." Good job.
Those examples were in response to your claim that campus police are somehow different than police in "NYPD and LAPD and small town" and there couldn't possibly be police brutality there, because reasons. But really, I gave you a clear example of a campus cop murdering a black person.

Why exactly do you think Yale campus cops are different from the rest of the country? Does Yale not have white people, is it somehow free of white supremacy?
What's so special about these particular campus cops?
 

Ghgghggh

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May 2, 2018
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Another shameful example in a world full of shameful examples.
I hope humanity can overcome this culture of hate, oppression, slavery and genocide.
 

Ploid 6.0

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Oct 25, 2017
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Another shameful example in a world full of shameful examples.
I hope humanity can overcome this culture of hate, oppression, slavery and genocide.
It just feels like people will always find a reason to mistreat one another. Race, class, power differences, families, tribes, nipple shapes, etc.

Maybe it'll take the threat of a world ending event, or an alien/AI invasion to get us all in a working and caring together state. Though I'm a pretty pessimistic person.
 

Forearm_Star

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Oct 25, 2017
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(About having a fine for calling the police for "no reason") I think that's problematic. Think of a situation where a person thinks they see some sort of conflict, but is unsure whether it requires police intervention. They don't because they're afraid of a fine-- and it escalated. Alternatively, someone calls in an actual emergency but it dissipates before the cops can get there (or it turns out not to be an emergency) - they get fined for no reason.

What you need is cops not shooting/hurting/arresting people for no reason, not avoiding calls to the cops altogether - better safe than sorry.

While of course you aren't wrong, something needs to happen to these people who at this point are just putting others in jeopardy for no reason.

Maybe not a fine for every case but something should happen for blatant "what's this black person doing here" calls.
 

PKrockin

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Oct 25, 2017
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If we criticize this woman, just think of all the other black people who will get away with napping in a common room because people are too afraid to call the police on them.
 

Kreed

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Oct 25, 2017
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She is named here:

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2018...-student-reported-for-napping-in-common-room/

Graduate philosophy student and has apparently done this before. What a disgusting human being, honestly. I can't even imagine how the victim would feel here, or how I'd have handled this had I been in her shoes.

According to Siyonbola and Jean-Louis Reneson GRD '19, another black graduate student, this is not the first time Braasch has called the police to HGS.

In March, Reneson and Siyonbola submitted a complaint about a separate incident to Associate Dean for Graduate Student Development and Diversity Michelle Nearon. According to a copy of the complaint Renenson provided to the News, the incident began when Siyonbola invited several colleagues, including Reneson, to a meeting in the HGS common room on February 24. Reneson, lost in HGS, was physically blocked by Braasch from entering the common room after he asked her for directions, the complaint read.

Reneson told the News that Braasch did not appear to believe that he was a Yale student trying to enter the HGS common room for a meeting, and instead accused him of being an intruder.


"Feeling ignored, I went down to the base of the twelfth floor and eleventh floor and turned my back, but she continued to verbally assault me from the twelfth floor claiming that I 'didn't belong here' and I was making her 'uncomfortable,'" Reneson said.


Reneson said that Braasch then left the area, and Siyonbola subsequently showed up to begin the meeting. But, according to the complaint, four police officers then showed up in HGS to inspect a "suspicious character" on the twelfth floor. According to the complaint, shortly after establishing that Reneson was a Yale student invited by Siyonbola for a meeting in HGS, the police left.

Time for legal action, among other things.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I read about this yesterday. I hope to see this thread bumped in a week or so with an update about action being taken against the racist student. There is some pretty great irony in the fact that she's a philosophy student - in my mind I've always pictured them as being broader in their perspectives. I don't know if she should be expelled, but something needs to be done.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I read about this yesterday. I hope to see this thread bumped in a week or so with an update about action being taken against the racist student. There is some pretty great irony in the fact that she's a philosophy student - in my mind I've always pictured them as being broader in their perspectives. I don't know if she should be expelled, but something needs to be done.

I would be filing a harassment complaint against this chick, then applying for a restraining order. This woman is toxic to the whole institution
 

T'Challa Shakur

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Nuff people a get di side eye. I really want to know why after confirming she was a student. They didnt press charges on the caller.




Pfffft.
 

Mooner

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I really don't see how napping = automatically calling the cops? Such horseshit! Even if I played that stupid "both sides" her side is unbelivable. She was hiding behind the cops as well lmao
 

Hypron

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Oct 27, 2017
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Fuck me that's some 'tip fedora' euphoric type shit right there. I'm atheist too so I can understand not understand religions that well, however this person really need to learn respect. Just because you think something doesn't mean you should tell everyone, especially if it's negative. On top of that, calling cops on someone sleeping in you common room is just some utter bullshit. Most people, do that. Being a student is tiring. I sleep in my lab very often, but I'm white as fuck and don't live in the US so none gives a fuck. Assuming someone isn't supposed to be there just because of their skin colour is bull fucking shit. I can't think of many things more upsetting that getting into trouble with the law because someone fucking profiled you like that.

I hope the victim doesn't take that to heart and goes on to do great in her life despite this incident.
 
Dec 23, 2017
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There are so many other ways she could have gone about confirming if she was a student or not. It's hard to speak on these incidents anymore. Let's just say being black is just that. Nothing will ever change that and because of that your life will be harder. No matter your education, background, or the success you may have.
 

Real

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Oct 28, 2017
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I am a loner. I will never marry nor have children, which is a tactical choice. I am responsible for no one. I have no possessions. I have no money. I have no family. I have no community. I have no allegiances to any person or group or organization or corporation. I am as free as can be. I have my freedom, which is the only thing I value.

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MBeanie

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Oct 27, 2017
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At some point we have to consider that some of these white folks are actively tryna get us killed.

For real and the twisted thing is she'll get away with calling the cops(or campus police in this case) facing little to no consequence. Even when someone ends up assaulted or dead because of their action.
 
Oct 31, 2017
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No, I don't think those are the only places with police issues, but I do think there's an important qualitative difference between them and Yale University. I expect better of Yale.

Similarly, are those three instances literally all of the campus police brutality in existence? Presumably not, but even still it's telling that of the best examples you can find, one's clearly not racially motivated and another is unnecessary roughness but falls well short of fatal injuries.

Yet here you are, accusing me of idiocy, when half the first page of the thread is expressing support for the sentiment that "some of these white folks are actively tryna get us killed." Good job.

Seriously, fuck you for trying to downplay black people's reasonable suspicion that racists who call the cops on us for committing no crimes are culpable in putting us in harms way because police do kill & brutalize black people with no justification or punishment, regularly.

This story is about a black student being harassed for sleeping and you're in here trying to defend the racist who wasted police and everyone's time.

You may have the privilege to have your head up your ass but we don't. Yes, people call the cops knowingly to harass brutalize and kill people way too often. You downplaying it isn't cute
 

FeliciaFelix

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She's like a RL Dolores Umbridge from Harry Potter. Baby Dolores or baby crazy Objectivist whose name I'm blanking out right now.
 
The girl who called the cops just seems to want to make life miserable for this lady. In the one video, she says "You're not allowed to sleep up there". Like, what the fuck? Why is that any of her business if someone dozes off while studying?

This is what I mean by white people realizing their power and privilege and calling law enforcement on PoC for silly reasons that could mean serious consequences for PoC via interactions with cops. It's infuriating.
 

mentallyinept

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Oct 25, 2017
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I understand reporting a suspicious person for trespassing, but this lady looks like any other college student you would meet.

Considering this person's past behavior, the only logic conclusion is that she is straight up racist and finds any black person in her general vicinity to be suspicious.
 

Flo_Evans

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Oct 25, 2017
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Whatever happened to minding your own fucking business?

Even as a white person I am not calling the cops unless someone is being actively murdered. They rarely make any situation better.
 

EvoTech

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Its illegal to nap in the common room?

What did this lady even tell the police to get them to show up?

Probably over concerns that it was a homeless person.

Making this situation about race is a bit desperate.
 

chandoog

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She has her freedom which is the only thing she values, while everyone else's freedom and right to fucking nap or wear niqab (if by choice) can go fuck itself.

lol .. what a sad, scared little pathetic human being this person is.
 

I Don't Like

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Dec 11, 2017
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I'm glad she filmed the racist and everyone can see who she is. She should be shamed in public. I mean, calling the cops because a girl was sleeping in the common room of a college. Yeah, I'm sure she's just a random black chick who sneaked into the building to take a nap you stupid fucking asshole. Brilliant logic skills.


Ah yes, the ol', "Imagine if x was said/done about/to white people!" What a boner.

literally gotta stay woke not to get harassed

If you're awake you can be accused of "reaching for something."

Literally gotta stay in the house, close the blinds and never leave.

*White neighbor calls cops*
"Yes, my black neighbor hasn't left his house in a while and I think he's up to something in there."
 

Nightwing123

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Oct 27, 2017
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So this girl has a history of calling cops on black students. Combine that with some of the stuff she has written and I definitely think she is a racist. Seriously calling the cops on a person for napping is just stupid and I feel so bad for the student that had to go through all this.
 
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