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Mentally preparing myself for Republicans controlling Congress even after mid-terms
- Thread starter Exellus
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Did you read GAF at the time of the last election? Plenty of people didn't vote.
Agreed, but it doesn't hurt to tell them to actually get off their asses if they want shit to actually progress forward.
CNN poll: Democrats' 2018 advantage is nearly gone
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/politics/cnn-poll-generic-ballot-narrows/index.html
Economy saving Trump...? Sad.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/09/politics/cnn-poll-generic-ballot-narrows/index.html
Economy saving Trump...? Sad.
WaPo had an analysis of this poll and how CNN came to that conclusion. It's not as bad as looks cool Dems or as good for GOP. But the gap has definitely narrowed. Can't post because of mobile, but it's on the front page
tweets were linked about why not to worry too much about this earlier in the thread
I felt a little down about this after reading the sample ballot book that came in the mail. But that's cause we have over 30 people running for US Senate in CA (yes most of them have no chance in hell, but it's exhausting to read through the list).
I'm not convinced that people around here are going to oust the Republican congressperson, even though she's a terrible human being who rubber stamps Trump's nonsense.
I'm not convinced that people around here are going to oust the Republican congressperson, even though she's a terrible human being who rubber stamps Trump's nonsense.
It actually does because lots of us are tired of the hard left's constant, non-stop hostility towards other liberals and seeing the same people that are calling moderates Nazi sympathizers demanding that the same moderates vote for the people they are instructed to.
When did this happen? I don't think i've seen this happen ever. Because i've seen people call people who are actually sympathising ith nazi's or trying to down play that shit nazi sympathizers. Not every moderate ever.
And maybe, just maybe, if one side has a bunch of fucking nazi's on it.
Maybe.... being moderate in this time isn't the best look I don't know.
It seems you don't vote period anyways, no matter who it is. So what's it really matter to you?
I'm totally expecting the blue wave to be a dud like unbeatable Hillary, but it'll be great if it isn't.
Dems should make gains, but I won't put my faith in the average american voter.
Dems should make gains, but I won't put my faith in the average american voter.
I voted in every election since I turned 21 including primaries. I'm just tired of listening to aggressive, bitter people try to take over the party for no actual benefit other than the savage pleasure of calling other people epithets despite the actual harm it does when you constantly denigrate your own constituency.
If you think calling members of your party traitors and Nazi sympathizers is cool, then just realize you're doing more harm than good by any metric.
The only moderates who get called Nazi sympathizers are those who demand trying to meet in the middle. If that's you, then yes, you are a Nazi sympathizer. Being a sympathizer doesn't necessarily mean you agree with those views, it can also mean you demand/encourage they have a spot in the conversation.
As far as the rest, if you can't see why the alarm is sounding you either don't care or have your own agenda
Well then congratulations; you just secured a non-vote for your party from someone who has voted liberal 10 consecutive times, which is almost assuredly the only voting influence you will ever have in the upcoming election. See how this works? Stop fucking saying that even if you are angry and bitter enough to seriously believe it. You're benefiting nobody other than whatever savage pleasure you're getting out of saying an unkind thing to a stranger (because you can't find an ACTUAL conservative to bully).
The Democratic party is the parting of losing and you're doing your part to help that. Just think about it the next time you decide to yell at someone who believes 95% of the things you believe.
You should always prepare for the worse. You don't ever have to prepare for something good. Like would you need to be prepared to lose a ton of money, or would you ever need to prepare for getting 1 million dollars?
Do you demand a spot for Nazis in the conversation? Because you got awfully defensive here
I don't think mr Grimace ever mentioned wanting to listen to Nazi shitheads. You and other posters simply lumped moderates, who you already have a disdain for, into that category. We saw this exact behavior going into the primaries last year on the democratic side as well from both factions.
You don't win arguments through slippery slope fallacies and epithets, and you don't win elections by calling your voting base Nazi sympathizers.
If you call me a Nazi sympathizer, it doesn't actually matter. All you're doing is making me not vote and since mine counts as much as yours; you essentially canceled your own vote in exchange for being able to feel smart for 30 seconds (which it shouldn't since jumping straight to "you support Hitler" is a 12-year old's bush league insult with no basis in reality or fact).
Even if you're thinking it (which is utterly absurd to begin with), stop fucking saying it out loud. Keep it to your Discord of Hatred of All People Not Exactly Like Me, or whatever.
yeah see, Grimace never said anything about wanting to listen to nazis or have a spot at the table for them, and here you are twisting it and putting words in his mouth. All he ever said was that he was a moderate and you've invented a fantasy.
If you don't want to vote to vote , which could put potentially more people of color in danger and people around the world in danger because people called you a mean word. You never really cared about anyone to begin with
You've probably encouraged more people to vote against your position. I guess it evens out.
Yet all you hear is insults from the GOP and cuck cuck cuck from the scumbags that manage the Nazi side of the political divide. Change never happened because we rolled over and said "you have a point, lets talk about why you hate brown people and call them poors" - once you agree and compromise on shitty, nasty positions like that you find yourself always compromising because they know they can force it.
I think that with the Republican Party in power you need to move beyond partisan positions - EVERY PARTY and country is losing in the real world because of those inept, corrupt officials. But yeah, stick to your 5% morals and defend Trump, Jeff Sessions and Roy Moore. Sterling examples of shit humans that would fall under that label.
I probably didn't encourage anyone to do anything. It's a lot harder to get people to vote than not vote. But by all means, continue to justify screaming and yelling at your own base, I'm sure it will work out great this Fall. You and other people using this tactic are gaining literally nothing whatsoever, and never have gained a thing through it. You're just getting off on being nasty to people. It's sick and pathetic.
Stop fucking calling your own voters stupid, dim-wits, and Nazi sympathizers. There's no reason whatsoever to do it. None. It's not hard.
If they're so stupid perhaps they are easily manipulated.
I'll placate myself with that, anyways.
All I'm getting out of your posts is paper thin convictions and a big victim complex. Someone said some mean words on the Internet and that's enough to turn you off from voting? Pretty lame, frankly.
I mean, yes? No shit you'd need to prepare for unexpectedly getting a large sum of money.
I don't think it really matters anymore who wins the next election. The United States has become permanently fucked because of Trump's administration. It's over, the experiment failed. Your country is looking at a future of celebrity presidents, increased poverty and classicism, a broken corrupt government and with a world that no longer looks at the USA as the leader of the western world.
To be fair, for every one person who speaks up and says how tired the same conversations get, there's others who just can't be bothered to have the same tired arguments over and over.
By the same token, there's a dearth of real debate because why engage anyone where you'd actually have to put in work when there's some low-hanging fruit trailing right behind that will provide for a much better feeding frenzy?
Are you really going to be in for a hard time cause you haven't been prepared to be rich?
I'm still sticking with my +4 prediction for the Senate; the map may be against Democrats given how many states they have to defend, including red-states but the party out of office losing a seat or three is a historic outlier, Trump is unpopular in many of said states and they have strong candidates in at least four Senate seats currently held by Republicans (Arizona, Nevada, Tennessee, Texas), not to mention there's Mississippi's jungle primary that, while a longshot, could produce some surprising results.
User banned (3 days): ignoring a modpost by continuing to insinuate that another user is a Nazi sympathizer.
Yeah, but also see I specifically said the only moderates getting called Nazi sympathizers are those doing it, which lead to his silly overly defensive response, but whatever little narrative you want to go with
Do you demand a spot in the conversation for Nazis? You still haven't answered that question. If you don't, then you're not a Nazi sympathizer, but if you do, you are.
As far as the rest, I'm not Jesus, and I'm sure not going to shoulder your choice not to vote. You don't vote, that's your choice. You want someone to pin sin on, you can go to church, that shit ain't on me, no matter how much you want to make it about me
Nothing related to the tactic of calling your own party members stupid or Nazi sympathizers is calculated to do anything but give you pleasure for making someone else feel bad. This is called "cruelty."
I gain nothing by indulging an intellectually empty argument about whether I sympathize with Nazis. It's a waste of time because it's so baseless. You gain nothing through this tactic, but you lose plenty. It's food for thought.
Depends on how I attain that money, mostly (there's a reason roughly 70% of all lottery winners go bankrupt, for example)
I have never heard anyone calling actual moderates like Angela Merkel or Joe Biden nazi sympathizers? Could you link me to someone doing that?
I'm sorry but this is some childish shit. You clearly don't actually give a shit about that 95% if some random person on the internet is enough to make you not vote for the party which supposedly represents your views.
Obviously the poster is really a liberal who suddenly is going to stop voting because liberals on the internet are mean...
Very believeable & reasonable scenario...
You'd be surprised, those are the type of people who act like they're above it all when everything is "safe" but then have a fire lit under their asses when everything goes to shit.
imagine believing that democrats lose because people are too mean to conservatives online and not because it's an institutionally corrupt centrist garbage fire of incompetence, graft, and nepotism
Do your best, y'all. Don't just tell and remind friends and family to vote. Phone bank, register people to vote in far flung and neglected areas. Even if this "blue wave" turns out to be a dud, you might be able to sleep better knowing that you gave it your best.
It absolutely makes sense though if it makes you think that your party really doesn't represent you, and the other party SURE AS HELL doesn't represent you any longer. I can easily see how that would lead to voter apathy. Heck, like i said before, as a usually-Republican this is basically me.
Duh. Anyone thinking they won't control Congress after the mid-terms is dreaming. Democrats do not vote in mid-term because we don't think they're important (they are) and I've already heard musings in Ohio that Democrat turn out was super low compared to Republican turn out for the primaries so I already know what direction this is going.
I also predict Trump will be re-elected easily.
I don't want any of these things to happen but they will happen.
I also predict Trump will be re-elected easily.
I don't want any of these things to happen but they will happen.