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Jenea

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TsuWave

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35 mill still sounds incredibly low

Nah cboat aka bish just made up a bunch of bs that wasn't true. Like xbox one having yield problems for example

CBOAT and Bish aren't even the same person. i heard it was supposedly a multiaccount but never saw it confirmed for sure. either way, CBOAT got a lot right with his statements btw. and Bish was in charge of verifying insiders so he'd likely have some sources.
 

itshutton

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Nov 1, 2017
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I think "Install Base" is a different thing to consoles sold. They will try and remove duplicates.

I bet they use active PSN and Live accounts or something like that.
 

H-I-M

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So according to EA The One only sold 30M copies?
No wonder Microsoft keep hiding their numbers.

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Oct 28, 2017
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So whichever is more correct, 30 or 35 Million, that's still a really low number considering we're approaching the 5th anniversary of these consoles.

Im curious if they'll be able to turn things around in Europe for next gen and have some 360 like success again there.
 

Megatron

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Oct 27, 2017
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Can't say I feel bad for MS. When they're in the lead they set, or try to set, bad precedents. Apps & multiplayer behind XBLG, online only, no used games, ect.

They all do that though. Now that Sony is in the lead they set bad precedents like no BC, no cross platform play with other consoles, no refunds, etc.
 
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They all do that though. Now that Sony is in the lead they set bad precedents like no BC, no cross platform play with other consoles, no refunds, etc.

I'm not sure anything beats not being able to play used games and performing an online check in every 24 hours. But that's just my opinion.

Yes Bc would be cool but most ppl buy new consoles to play new games.
 
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35 mill still sounds incredibly low



CBOAT and Bish aren't even the same person. i heard it was supposedly a multiaccount but never saw it confirmed for sure. either way, CBOAT got a lot right with his statements btw. and Bish was in charge of verifying insiders so he'd likely have some sources.
Upon that Btw bish was clearly sony biased ,and that would be okay if he wasn't using his power in line with his bias
His "verifying sources" was part of the bias tooets forget that place and that mod..I don't understand how ppl can take him seriously
 

MysticGon

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I just hope PS4 continues the trend of having one platform every gen sell more than 150m. Doubt it though.
 

Astronut325

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I'm not sure anything beats not being able to play used games and performing an online check in every 24 hours. But that's just my opinion.

Yes Bc would be cool but most ppl buy new consoles to play new games.
Exactly what I was going to say. And on BC, I still have my old games with my old systems. I have zero interest in playing them since I have so many new games to play.
 

Anti

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Upon that Btw bish was clearly sony biased ,and that would be okay if he wasn't using his power in line with his bias
His "verifying sources" was part of the bias tooets forget that place and that mod..I don't understand how ppl can take him seriously

Either way this is not bish claiming this are the numbers, this is EA an actual publisher who is pretty close to both Sony and MS, even more to MS. If you don't trust their numbers then what numbers do you trust?
 

M1chl

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Nov 20, 2017
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I am kinda confused in few days/weeks back there was some thread from MS meeting stated that there are 59m of active XBL users, does that mean, that their are lump together number from Xbox Console, from Windows store and from Minecraft players on Switch? Sorry if I missed something.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Upon that Btw bish was clearly sony biased ,and that would be okay if he wasn't using his power in line with his bias
His "verifying sources" was part of the bias tooets forget that place and that mod..I don't understand how ppl can take him seriously
That's quite a judgement of character. What are you basing this on? Are you telling us that this grown man that's been a moderator for years has been misusing his responsibilities because console wars?
 

VallenValiant

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Oct 27, 2017
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So according to EA The One only sold 30M copies?
No wonder Microsoft keep hiding their numbers.
Nah, the only thing they said is that there are 103m potential customers for EA console games in 2017.
(warning! entirely unscientific and inaccurate crime-against-math in the following!)
I am actually curious about the PS4 sales numbers, deducting PS4 Pro sales. There is something like 20 million PS4's sold since Pro came out, though that is extremely rough and guestimated on my part. Adding another assumption that 1 in 5 PS4 sold was a Pro, which once again is based on a single datapoint only, AND the really strange assumption that people only buy Pro as an upgrade, we arrive at 4 million Pros sold up to now.

Deduct 4 million from 73.6m, we get 69.4m as the PS4 install base. Then 103-69.4=33.6m Xbox1 Install base. (And that number would theoretically not include those who upgrade from Xb1 to 1X)

So, 33.6m Xbox1 install base vs Sony's 69.4m?
This is entirely not accurate, but probably makes more sense than what Dualshockers did.
 

Dave.

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Oct 27, 2017
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I am kinda confused in few days/weeks back there was some thread from MS meeting stated that there are 59m of active XBL users, does that mean, that their are lump together number from Xbox Console, from Windows store and from Minecraft players on Switch? Sorry if I missed something.

Yes, that's exactly what they do. A Windows 10 minesweeper player is a "monthly active XBL user" these days.
 

onanie

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I am kinda confused in few days/weeks back there was some thread from MS meeting stated that there are 59m of active XBL users, does that mean, that their are lump together number from Xbox Console, from Windows store and from Minecraft players on Switch? Sorry if I missed something.
It does, and the confusion is entirely intentional.
 

Ploid 6.0

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Backwards compatibility is always good at the start of a new gen, especially if the BC comes with improvements like PS2, PS3, and now Xbox One. Now with the new x86 architecture hopefully all consoles going forward with Playstation, and Xbox will have BC. No more expensive emotion engine chip or whatever software solution they ended up using on later PS3s. I think they still had to use some sound chip as well.
 

Dave.

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Nah, the only thing they said is that there are 103m potential customers for EA console games in 2017.
(warning! entirely unscientific and inaccurate crime-against-math in the following!)
I am actually curious about the PS4 sales numbers, deducting PS4 Pro sales. There is something like 20 million PS4's sold since Pro came out, though that is extremely rough and guestimated on my part. Adding another assumption that 1 in 5 PS4 sold was a Pro, which once again is based on a single datapoint only, AND the really strange assumption that people only buy Pro as an upgrade, we arrive at 4 million Pros sold up to now.

Deduct 4 million from 73.6m, we get 69.4m as the PS4 install base. Then 103-69.4=33.6m Xbox1 Install base. (And that number would theoretically not include those who upgrade from Xb1 to 1X)

So, 33.6m Xbox1 install base vs Sony's 69.4m?
This is entirely not accurate, but probably makes more sense than what Dualshockers did.

IMO it's more likely EA is removing the Japan sales than the Pro/X1X, Welfare and Phantom Thief had a few good posts on this mid-thread
 

Funkallero

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Oct 28, 2017
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I am kinda confused in few days/weeks back there was some thread from MS meeting stated that there are 59m of active XBL users, does that mean, that their are lump together number from Xbox Console, from Windows store and from Minecraft players on Switch? Sorry if I missed something.

It's probably any Hotmail email address linked to an Xbox account, being console, PC app or anything else.
 

AceofSpades

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Oct 27, 2017
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MS have some fairly engaged 29m users. Impressive.

edit: New nightera layout is ok but please tone down the saturated purple.
 

chaos_planes

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Oct 28, 2017
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i feel like people should start tracking xbox sales estimates. feels like every few months the number gets revised down because a new piece of info comes out. at this rate, the vita might overtake it
 
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