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Powdered Egg

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
17,070
Man I watched this for the first time with my 3 year old son, did not expect that headshot! I hope lil man is alright.
 

Marvelous

Member
Nov 3, 2017
347
TL;DR "To Be Fair, You Have To Have a Very High IQ to Understand Rick and Morty"

That's what your comment sounds like.
Replace "paying attention" with "having high enough IQ."
The original person you quoted wasn't saying anything about just paying attention, but rather having the patience and openness to attempt understanding an issue that is outside of their realm. This particular piece is speaking volumes about a black issue, and as a result is immediately accessible to those who are familiar and conscious of black involvement in topics such racism, violence, culture, history, etc. However, white people as a race don't have this predefined context and as a result simply aren't equipped to begin to understand the conversation at hand. Unfortunately, this causes them to dismiss the message, as well as the conversation, altogether, because it's something that isn't about them.
 

RobotHaus

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,931
Mars University
Before and after the first gunshot

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Showed the video to my girlfriend and she had the same look after the first shot. That opening is such a great bait and switch.
 

CarpeDeezNutz

Avenger
Oct 27, 2017
2,732
Really good video, I always wonder how many of these rappers ever got dirty though, pulled some stunts. I knew dudes who blew off Tupac cos he only sold like 1,000 a week in rocks.

So weird to see wax nostalgic on an old life.
 

WillyFive

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
6,976
Always been a fan of Donald Glover, but I have never listened or seen any of his songs.

This was a really deep music video, although his rapping needed subtitles.
 

Opto

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,546
So much detail packed in this thing. The guns are carried out gingerly on red velvet while the bodies are either left there or unceremoniously dragged away.
 

aerie

wonky
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
8,030
I didn't think i'd listen to the track much without the the video, but man, i keep putting it on today. I'm really hooked on it. Also, back to #1 on trending, not sure why it was removed for awhile.
 

CountAntonio

Member
Oct 25, 2017
21,701
Pretty amazing stuff. I'm not a very perceptive person so thank you to everyone pointing out the many things I missed.
 

Powdered Egg

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
17,070
Wassup with the people who dont like the song itself? That shit knocks.
Song grew on me because the video. I wouldn't have rocked with it if I had access to audio first, it merely sounds like a rap album interlude to me. Sorta like Jay-Z's "Beach is better" track on his Magna Carter album.
 
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aerie

wonky
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
8,030
Wait, was Sober his last video? I know he didn't do one for Awaken. Man, feels so long ago now thinking about it.
 

Kaako

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,736
This music video gets better with every viewing. So much thought that went into this, and so much being told in such a short amount of time.

5th watch for me, Hiro Murai is a music video god. Song is fuckin good, listened to it 5 more times without the video at work today.



My favorite Hiro Murai music vid, this dude is a genius. I didn't know he was responsible for Atlanta, now I really gotta watch it.

I fucking loooove that video. Dude is a genius no doubt.
 

HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,621
It's a cool music video and it really sticks in your head after watching it. I'm still meh on the song itself, but he's a talented kid and one of the few rappers I feel that really switches it up with his projects lately. Even if I'm not particularly fond of his music aside from a few tracks here & there. Might just have to cop a shirt off his website just to show love to the hustle.
 

TheFireman

Banned
Dec 22, 2017
3,918
If hes going to be shirtless in a music video he should start lifting weights

What? Dude is clearly in shape. He just doesn't have the shirtless movie star body, which wouldn't work as well for this music video. His breasts make it clear he has muscle definition, and you can tell when he stretches his body that he has ab definition. But again, it doesn't pop as much because he's not going for the movie star body.
 

Prolepro

Ghostwire: BooShock
Banned
Nov 6, 2017
7,310
Wassup with the people who dont like the song itself? That shit knocks.
Without the visual context, the song is just a parody of itself (a point that is lost without the video anyway), and has to use the medium of a music video as a crutch to get its message across.

Compare this to, say, Alright, which accomplishes pretty much the same effect as This Is America, but works regardless, and either medium is enhanced by the other rather than depending on each other to succeed.
 

Dream Machine

Member
Oct 25, 2017
13,085
Seems a stretch to me. The poses don't look similar in any way. It looks more like something I'd see a Bond Girl do.
Really? Not only that pose, but also his manic behavior with the dancing and strained, erratic facial expressions really read as a parallel to Jim Crow/minstrel shows to me.

The pose is also about as close as you can get while also shooting someone execution style at the same time. I think he (and whoever else was working with him on the video) wanted to reference those things without being super blunt about it so that people would have room to interpret it. I said earlier in the thread, if he had come out in blackface or something to make that point, the whole conversation would be caught up in that hamster wheel dialogue and give critics something to criticize and avoid the larger issues.

Obviously I could be wrong too, though.
is he committing suicide or is he just running away from someone?
I assumed it was the tide turning and the mob was coming for him in the end. Whether that's from the republican party or the alt right, or the left, online trolls, a historical allusion to the lynching of a black man for speaking up, or a mixture of all, I'm not really sure.

I was also wondering if it was people coming for him because he held up something that appeared to be a gun ( just his hand) earlier in the video, and that was what sent everybody running.We know what happens to black men who appear to be holding a gun.

I don't know, there are a lot of ways people could interpret the imagery.

EDIT: after writing that, I realize you probably meant the falling guy in the background, not Gambino running away from the mob at the end.
Without the visual context, the song is just a parody of itself (a point that is lost without the video anyway), and has to use the medium of a music video as a crutch to get its message across.

Compare this to, say, Alright, which accomplishes pretty much the same effect as This Is America, but works regardless, and either medium is enhanced by the other rather than depending on each other to succeed.
I don't see anything wrong with having a song rely on visuals to give it more context and elevate the material. I said earlier in the thread that if I had only heard the song without the video, I doubt it would have stuck with me much at all. But now, every time I hear that song, those visuals are going to be in my head.
 
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SolidSnakex

Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,342
The SNL performance of This is America is currently trending #3 with 1m views. Just in case it wasn't more obvious that the music video is being kept off that list because of guns

 

Suiko

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,931
The SNL performance of This is America is currently trending #3 with 1m views. Just in case it wasn't more obvious that the music video is being kept off that list because of guns



Not so sure, I think that algorithm takes into account the channel it's on.
VEVO gets millions of views regularly, SNL not so much.
It catches Viral Videos in this way.
 

Prolepro

Ghostwire: BooShock
Banned
Nov 6, 2017
7,310
Really? Not only that pose, but also his manic behavior with the dancing and strained, erratic facial expressions really read as a parallel to Jim Crow/minstrel shows to me.

The pose is also about as close as you can get while also shooting someone execution style at the same time. I think he (and whoever else was working with him on the video) wanted to reference those things without being super blunt about it so that people would have room to interpret it. I said earlier in the thread, if he had come out in blackface or something to make that point, the whole conversation would be caught up in that hamster wheel dialogue and give critics something to criticize and avoid the larger issues.

Obviously I could be wrong too, though.

I assumed it was the tide turning and the mob was coming for him in the end. Whether that's from the republican party or the alt right, or the left, online trolls, a historical allusion to the lynching of a black man for speaking up, or a mixture of all, I'm not really sure.

I was also wondering if it was people coming for him because he held up something that appeared to be a gun ( just his hand) earlier in the video, and that was what sent everybody running.We know what happens to black men who appear to be holding a gun.

I don't know, there are a lot of ways people could interpret the imagery.

EDIT: after writing that, I realize you probably meant the falling guy in the background, not Gambino running away from the mob at the end.

I don't see anything wrong with having a song rely on visuals to give it more context and elevate the material. I said earlier in the thread that if I had only heard the song without the video, I doubt it would have stuck with me much at all. But now, every time I hear that song, those visuals are going to be in my head.
Like you said, theres nothing inherently wrong, but the poster wanted a reason for people not going crazy for just the song, and you said it yourself: it's incomplete without the visuals. It probably works much better in album format, hopefully (if an album is coming out) it succeeds instead of leaving something to be desired, which Ill allude Kendrick once again and argue that HUMBLE. ended up missing the mark in a similar situation regarding a single/music video scenario.
 

FaceHugger

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
13,949
USA
I feel like I am being hit with obvious symbolism but I am just missing it. I should mention I'm not black so maybe (probably?) that's why.

As a song I could bump it for the beat and rhythm but it isn't saying anything to me.
 

FeenixRisen

McDonalds looks really average next to Wendys
Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,485
All I'm gonna contribute to this thread is those school kids were getting it in.

Did a great job of distracting me of all the fuckery going on around them.
 

ZattMurdock

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
10,333
Earth 616
I don't usually like English rap because it's too fast and way too gangsta to my tastes. I can't relate as much as I'd with Brazilian rap for example. Gambino in the other hand is an absolute transcendent genius. Brilliant.
 

Zackat

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,021
I have watched this video so many times and find something new almost every time. This song has really grown on me, and I liked it a lot the first time.