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Sasliquid

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Oct 25, 2017
4,298
Just finished. Liked it but too many niggling issues keep it from being a great to me.

When we see the symbols of the Gods of War we seen Norse, Greek and Egyptian but I didn't recognise the other. What was it?
 

Ghostmaster

Member
Oct 25, 2017
244
Really? Huh. Cool! Mind expounding on this a little? That matches up with a story arc in the Wonder Woman comics a few years back, now that I think about it...
Well, there are 3 main factors to this:

1. The Oracle of Delphi, which was the place of Apollo worship was hugely important in Ancient Greece and one of the few places that remained culturally and religiously important throughout the centuries.

2. Apollo was both the God of Light and the Arts and he was viewed more favorably than Zeus by many artists and actors(he is the leader of the Muses and pretty much all classical art and literature in Greece was dedicated to the Muses), which in turn made him more popular with regular people and in general he is portrayed as a more playful and thoughtful god than Zeus.

3. Apollo was the protector of Troy, and the Romans believed that they were the survivors of Troy. Thus when the Roman empire became hugely powerful there was a boost to the popularity of Apollo as well. One important thing to note here is that Apollo is one of the few gods that has the same name in both Greek and Roman myth. Which might actually play a role in the games to come and might explain why we haven't fought him yet.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Right, almost forgot. Here's the second secret mural from the art book. Sorry for the shitty quality, but I suck at taking photos.

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You can see the "Kratos dying" mural in the left, and a new one on the right. Atreus is, for the first time in the entire mural, alone. Except, he's got a pack of wolves with him... And, well, you all know about Loki and wolves and how big of a role wolves play in Ragnarok. Oh boy. Maybe we'll play as Atreus for a portion of the sequel and he'll bring Kratos back to life somehow. Or we'll just permanently play as Atreus. I can't see that happening in a sequel, though. Seems too early.

The art book also has concept art pieces for Vanaheim. Pretty damn neat. Not how I imagined Vanaheim would look after all these years, but... it makes sense. I guess.
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HStallion

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Oct 25, 2017
62,262
In the sequel Kratos should bring the boat along with him after he gets off the water and use it as a weapon. I'm still waiting for Boat of War.
 

Kufkah

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Oct 26, 2017
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I've always found it funny that Atreus has more face scars than Kratos, lol!
 

Vaelic

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Oct 27, 2017
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Someone please tell me how to get to the mine to meet Brock? I cannot for the life of me figure out the way
 

rusty chrome

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Oct 25, 2017
8,640
I'm in Niflheim and one of those chests with the three runic symbols on it appeared in a spot I don't usually see them (it's just past Sindri in the open area where the first monsters appear in Niflheim, next to the room with all the chests and realm tears). For the first time I can't find the bells I'm supposed to hit to open it. They're usually high up in places but these are nowhere to be found. What's going on here? Or is this one actually not timed like all the others in Niflheim?
 
Oct 25, 2017
11,721
United Kingdom
After finishing the story today. That ending, loved all the foreshadowing, Loki and possible Kratos death, damn. Also time travel, Norse mythology is really fucked up and that extra cutscene back at their home, wow.

So, what next ?

20-30 hour Ragnarok DLC to finish the story. Odin & Thor want revenge and go after Kratos, which leads to Ragnarok and the end of Norse mythology. The sequels will be set in another mythology.

Or

2 more games set in Norse mythology, eventually leading to Ragnarok in the last game.
 

Ghostmaster

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Oct 25, 2017
244
I'm in Niflheim and one of those chests with the three runic symbols on it appeared in a spot I don't usually see them (it's just past Sindri in the open area where the first monsters appear in Niflheim, next to the room with all the chests and realm tears). For the first time I can't find the bells I'm supposed to hit to open it. They're usually high up in places but these are nowhere to be found. What's going on here? Or is this one actually not timed like all the others in Niflheim?
No, it is not timed, it is the one of the spinning ones, you need to remember the runes and then spin the totems to get the right one. The totems are all across the realm (they are actually in fixed places, one is in the battle arena to the left, one is in the battle arena to the right and one in the battle arena at the top), usually at the top of the arenas, similar to the position of bells for the other chest.
 

rusty chrome

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Oct 25, 2017
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No, it is not timed, it is the one of the spinning ones, you need to remember the runes and then spin the totems to get the right one. The totems are all across the realm (they are actually in fixed places, one is in the battle arena to the left, one is in the battle arena to the right and one in the battle arena at the top), usually at the top of the arenas, similar to the position of bells for the other chest.
Thanks lol. It's the first one I get like this in Niflheim so I almost thought it wasn't supposed to be there.
 

VX1

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Oct 28, 2017
7,000
Europe
After finishing the story today. That ending, loved all the foreshadowing, Loki and possible Kratos death, damn. Also time travel, Norse mythology is really fucked up and that extra cutscene back at their home, wow.

So, what next ?

20-30 hour Ragnarok DLC to finish the story. Odin & Thor want revenge and go after Kratos, which leads to Ragnarok and the end of Norse mythology. The sequels will be set in another mythology.

Or

2 more games set in Norse mythology, eventually leading to Ragnarok in the last game.

This,i think.No way we are getting Ragnarok DLC now lol.
 

Llyrwenne

Hopes and Dreams SAVE the World
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Oct 26, 2017
1,209
So why couldn't Freya just kill Kratos with her magic when she was trying to save Baldur in the last fight?
I believe it was mentioned earlier in the game that one of the curses placed on her by Odin prevents her from physically or magically harming any living creature. After the ending, it is implied that she is looking for a way to break this curse / regain her warrior's spirit.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Man Baldur is the only antagionist I've ever given a shit about in the entire series, too bad he went out like that. Plus he had the only design that really did anything for me in the game.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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One thing that kinda bothers me and to be honest its a carry over from GOW 3 is Athena's unexplained heel turn that she becomes passive aggresive towards Kratos after initially always being supportive of him.

Because in GOW2 she was like "nah Kratos, don't kill Zues" but in GOW3 she's like "kill Zeus super hard"

Was it because she got corrupted with the "evils of the box as well, even though she put hope in there?"

I do wish a bit more explanation of things in the previous games was in here.
 

lmcfigs

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Oct 25, 2017
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One thing that kinda bothers me and to be honest its a carry over from GOW 3 is Athena's unexplained heel turn that she becomes passive aggresive towards Kratos after initially always being supportive of him.

Because in GOW2 she was like "nah Kratos, don't kill Zues" but in GOW3 she's like "kill Zeus super hard"

Was it because she got corrupted with the "evils of the box as well, even though she put hope in there?"

I do wish a bit more explanation of things in the previous games was in here.
There's a few plot elements i never understood in the old games. Athena just did not make sense in the third game.

But also so much of that game is Kratos looking to open the box for the "power to kill gods" (or whatever). The whole game he's killing gods and Titans, so I never understood why he needed a weapon to kill the gods - when it seemed like he was doing a pretty good job by himself.

Like at some point in the game, you kill Poseidon, Helios, Hades and Kratos is still going on about finding Pandora's box.
 

MisterBear

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Nov 1, 2017
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Good Athena have been Kratos's inner self being personified? Maybe it wasnt actually her.
 

lmcfigs

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Oct 25, 2017
12,091
Good Athena have been Kratos's inner self being personified? Maybe it wasnt actually her.
I would hate this. There's so much unresolved questions from the last trilogy. Like why was Athena still alive in 3? What did she mean by ascending to a higher form after death? Why are there no other gods that do this? etc. There's a ton of questions I have about what Athena's deal was.

Also Aphrodite should still be alive as well... we kind of just left her in her love shack - though I doubt we'll see her again.
 

rashbeep

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Oct 27, 2017
9,467
finished it a few days ago

surprised at how much i enjoyed it (it might be my favourite in the series) and now the wait is going to suck for god of war 2
 

Bran Van

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Oct 28, 2017
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To a degree I got the sense from the game and interviews that this entry was avoiding lingering on some elements of GOW3. I think it's something that will fit into the larger story arc. For instance the mortals in the world (what little we saw) were in a terrible state and there was mention of some events that caused a large amount of deaths. Maybe by Kratos?
 

The Silver

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Oct 28, 2017
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At the end of 3 she was, but it's not clear why she saved Zeus in 2 and then wanted him dead in 3. Since Kratos would have definitely killed Zeus anyway in the second game.
They needed someone to guide and power up Kratos after resetting his power level since the game takes place immediately after GoW 2. Athena is the best choice so they made up some bullshit about ascending beyond godhood without knowing what that actually meant.
 

Bran Van

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Oct 28, 2017
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Man Baldur is the only antagionist I've ever given a shit about in the entire series, too bad he went out like that. Plus he had the only design that really did anything for me in the game.
I hope the rest of the gods are as well realised as what we've seen so far. Baldur, Freya and Loki have been fantastic so far

A million times better than the wasted Greek Gods
 

bunkitz

Brave Little Spark
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Oct 28, 2017
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Oh crap, my bad. Re-uploaded:

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Well, there are 3 main factors to this:

1. The Oracle of Delphi, which was the place of Apollo worship was hugely important in Ancient Greece and one of the few places that remained culturally and religiously important throughout the centuries.

2. Apollo was both the God of Light and the Arts and he was viewed more favorably than Zeus by many artists and actors(he is the leader of the Muses and pretty much all classical art and literature in Greece was dedicated to the Muses), which in turn made him more popular with regular people and in general he is portrayed as a more playful and thoughtful god than Zeus.

3. Apollo was the protector of Troy, and the Romans believed that they were the survivors of Troy. Thus when the Roman empire became hugely powerful there was a boost to the popularity of Apollo as well. One important thing to note here is that Apollo is one of the few gods that has the same name in both Greek and Roman myth. Which might actually play a role in the games to come and might explain why we haven't fought him yet.
Thanks! Never thought about #3 before... Very good point. Would be really interesting if they introduced him into the series through Roman Mythology then.
 

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What if... guys.. what if Tyr is Kratos...guys ... and he looks different because realm travel makes you look realm specific...guys what if Kratos is the "ghost of sparta" in one reality and..wait for it guys.. "ghost of tsushima" in another realm/reality?
 

Kalamoj

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Oct 28, 2017
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I had the same feeling that somehow her ashes was magical and it would resurrect the gaints I mean why go all this way to spread the ashes
Maybe she just wanted to show them her origins and of course with all the Jotun divinations she wanted to warm up the boys for what is coming. So spreading the ashes didn't matter a bit.