Lots of us have been suspecting Retro to be working on something like Destiny or Tom Clancy's Division. Based on their recent hires it would make a lot of sense.
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Lots of us have been suspecting Retro to be working on something like Destiny or Tom Clancy's Division. Based on their recent hires it would make a lot of sense.
I think it will have some online stuff, but I definitely don't think it's like Destiny or the Division.
I can't believe after all the many, many threads and discussions we've had on here about what Retro may be working on next, somebody is sat right there with the knowledge. Come on Emily, a clue at least, please, we beg you!
(I totally understand that you can't, but it's worth a try)
(I totally understand that you can't, but it's worth a try)
If it's something like that, I have no idea how Nintendo fans would react. I would be very sad and dissapointed, but that's me.
Oh god, I'm looking at Tropical Freeze switch credits, and Nintendo hired an artist who used to draw furry pornography
Man, you do NOT want to know the sheer number of artists that started out as porn artists...
I think Q1 2019 would be the perfect place for Retro's project. A February-March slot would be a nice place for a new AAA game for Switch. It would definitely help keep up momentum after the holidays and give it room to breathe as a fresh new experience.
Also you make me scared with that last statement. Here's a question, if what you think is true, who would be happy?
I'm hoping it's more like Borderlands than either of those. Loot grind is a genre Nintendo has never really had.
I think I've mentioned my stance on Retro a few times now. It's concerning that we're approaching 5 years without a new release without a peep.
E3 is coming up soon so that can either confirm or deny my fears so we'll see.
It's been over 4 years since Miyamoto said this:
So obviously something has changed.
Both that it seems unlikely that they're big enough for two projects and that they weren't chosen for a new Metroid Prime game.
I know people like to write it off like it's nothing, but 5 years is a long time for a studio to go without releasing a new game especially after the last one underperformed.
If it's a new 2D DK, that's bad too. You don't spend 5 years iterating on a 2D platformer if nothing has gone wrong
E3 is coming up soon so that can either confirm or deny my fears so we'll see.
It's been over 4 years since Miyamoto said this:
So obviously something has changed.
Both that it seems unlikely that they're big enough for two projects and that they weren't chosen for a new Metroid Prime game.
I know people like to write it off like it's nothing, but 5 years is a long time for a studio to go without releasing a new game especially after the last one underperformed.
If it's a new 2D DK, that's bad too. You don't spend 5 years iterating on a 2D platformer if nothing has gone wrong
I could obviously be way off base but based on everything we know about recent hires and their background/experience, the game is very likely going to be something that emphasizes both single and multiplayer. Now when I say "like Destiny or Division", I mean everything that sorta fits into that mold. Borderlands, Diablo etc.
It's entirely fair. Since 2014 Monolith Soft has worked on and released Xenoblade Chronicles 3D, Xenoblade Chronicles X, Splatoon, Animal Crossing: Happy Home Designer, Project X Zone 2, Breath of the Wild, Splatoon 2, and Xenoblade Chronicles 2. In the same time frame Retro has only released Tropical Freeze and Tropical Freeze Switch. As far as Nintendo first party studios go, Retro has been lagging when it comes to output.
I think it will have both single player and multiplayer as well.
But that's like >50% of AAA games, lol.
maybe they're taking so long because they are working on two projects (which obviously left them unavailable to work on Metroid Prime)
Originally, I was thinking it was very likely that Next Level was working on a new Luigi's Mansion game, but now, with the Punch Out trademark being renewed, the POWii site having disappeared, and having recently found out that they aren't involved with the Luigi's Mansion 3DS port, I think they're working on a new Punch Out game instead. Which I'm all for. I know OrbitalBeard and Matt from Super Best Friends will be over the moon for that.
When Grand Theft Auto: New Donk City comes out, you will be super surprised then,
Emily's comments to me point to a DK game in a completely new genre, like an RPG or a story-based thing. Fits with Reggie's talk of a 'new experience' for the series, plus Emily's new post that she is not sure what reaction the game will get.
No one would be surprised and everyone would gush at most any Retro game in a new genre that stars a new IP. That I think is pretty unambiguous. So it's in a new genre but it's the DK part that gives her pause, because of Era and Gaf precedent of complaining about the series in Retro's hands.
No one would be surprised and everyone would gush at most any Retro game in a new genre that stars a new IP. That I think is pretty unambiguous. So it's in a new genre but it's the DK part that gives her pause, because of Era and Gaf precedent of complaining about the series in Retro's hands.
Usually a studio would form two teams to put out content faster. Their next game would at least take 5 years since their last which is pretty close to doubling the amount of time they normally take.
Perhaps Monster games was more important to the production of TF than we thought and them distancing themselves from Nintendo might have had some consequences for retro
I mean, I could see it being a story-driven DK game where he punches a lot of stuff instead of doing platforming.
... I just don't take DK seriously as a character and would prefer to have the story be in the Kid Icarus setting. Maybe even the F-Zero setting.
Well, if what I've heard is true...and that's a very big IF...
Your "happiness" would ultimately depend on two things.
1. Whether you're a fan of this particular Nintendo IP.
2. Whether you're a fan of this genre.
That's why I said I don't know how the internet will react. You can be a huge fan of the IP, but you may dislike the genre. Or it could be the opposite: you can be a BIG fan of this game's genre, but you were never a fan of the IP.
Again, that's assuming there's even a smidgen of truth to what I've heard.
I don't plan to elaborate much more on this, but I hope I answered your question.
The only spin on Mario at this point left is eroge.
As long as Rosalina's dateable, I'm all in.
Do you guys think it's reasonable to expect at least one more Direct before E3?
Interesting. Very interesting. I think no matter what the game is, there's going to be a large number of people disappointed. There's no way whatever it is they're working on is going to live up to the image of whatever game they've had in their heads for four years.
Interesting. Very interesting. I think no matter what the game is, there's going to be a large number of people disappointed. There's no way whatever it is they're working on is going to live up to the image of whatever game they've had in their heads for four years.
That's perfectly fine, thank you for the response. I wonder if it's casual, like Wave Race, or more core focused with something Nintendo usually doesn't make anymore compared to Gamecube or earlier like FPS or horror. Of course taking the grain of salt altogether as well
Edit: I'm trying to think of genres that Nintendo hasn't really built up themselves. That would be a reason for possible backlash, because the current established Nintendo fanbase isn't known or used to these types of games, so they wouldn't appreciate it. But that's good because that could fill a genre hole and diversify Nintendo's portfolio.
RTS
FPS
Horror
Sports (besides the occasional Mario sport)
Point and Click Adventure Game
Beat Em Up
Hack and Slash
Simulation
Stealth
MOBA
Racing
Cinematic Action Adventure
Rhythm is somewhat established....... Retro... (Dear god please don't let it be this)
These are genres not really established these days by Nintendo's IPs, therefore may not be appreciated because the fanbase isn't there yet?
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Alright with these hints I have a theory. Open world online Destiny/Borderlands-like sci-fi rpg... Featuring the Galactic Federation from Metroid. So it will essentially be an open world Federation Force.
People who like Metroid typically hate the idea of the Federation, and especially Federation Force. And generally people who like online RPGs like that don't seem all that interested in Nintendo properties.
Edit: oh wow I didn't see Emily's second post till now.
Hmm I can't say I even understand the idea of disliking a particular IP even if you like the genre. Does anyone have an example of a game like that, where you like the genre a lot but really dislike the IP?
People who like Metroid typically hate the idea of the Federation, and especially Federation Force. And generally people who like online RPGs like that don't seem all that interested in Nintendo properties.
Edit: oh wow I didn't see Emily's second post till now.
Hmm I can't say I even understand the idea of disliking a particular IP even if you like the genre. Does anyone have an example of a game like that, where you like the genre a lot but really dislike the IP?
I'm assuming that it must be an old Nintendo franchise then.
If that's the case then that's cool, I love when Nintendo revives one of their old series.
Given how popular Diddy Kong Racing was, I doubt that a new DK racing game would be very controversial.
Maybe it's controversial because it's something like Star Fox Adventures. Like a story based F-Zero adventure game. That wouldn't go over very well.
Can't help but speculate over your post, trying to figure out what it could be. Seems like it's a franchise with a decent following which will radically change genres. People might be dissapointed because they were expecting a sequel to the franchise and it will be something completely unique.
I think Star Fox changing genres and becoming either a 3rd Person Shooter or an Action RPG are my best bets. It ties with Retro's job listings, is a franchise which Nintendo doesn't really know what do with and which also has had a bunch of experimentation since the N64.
Could also see F-Zero, Punch-Out or Donkey Kong, but my bet is Star Fox.
I mean, Diddy Kong Racing was nothing near as popular as Donkey Kong Country, yet both DKC Retro made were terribly controversial.
Don't waste your spit nor your brain. It clearly is Wave Race or 1080º.
No disrespect, but Emily's post doesn't help, EXCEPT it narrows it down to being a Nintendo IP and not a brand new IP. You can say people like certain IP's, but not a genre though. Some people like Mario platformer, but don't like when it's rpg like Paper Mario.
That's the basic crux of every game. Every genre has people they like or don't like.
I mean is it F-Zero? People love racing F-Zero, but now it's a SRPG? Not everyone loves SRPG so those F-Zero fans could be pissed off.
That's the basic crux of every game. Every genre has people they like or don't like.
I mean is it F-Zero? People love racing F-Zero, but now it's a SRPG? Not everyone loves SRPG so those F-Zero fans could be pissed off.
That's fair. I guess it would be controversial to the people who have been convinced Retro is making an M rated, Uncharted-esque new IP or something. I'd be pretty happy with a new DKR, personally!
If anything Emily makes it sound like it's going to be controversial like F-Zero fans have been waiting for a Racing game and it's going to be something different.
What other Nintendo IP's would be controversial? A different genre for Star Fox? I don't see Diddy Kong Racing as controversial.
Star Fox and F-Zero seem to be the leading candidates I think.
What other Nintendo IP's would be controversial? A different genre for Star Fox? I don't see Diddy Kong Racing as controversial.
Star Fox and F-Zero seem to be the leading candidates I think.
I would see both an F-Zero open world brawler and a Donkey Kong open world brawler being controversial.
StarFox has been in so many fucking weird things though that I can't imagine people would be that mad at any genre it took. "GTA StarFox? Yeah, sounds about right."-Most Nintendo fans at this point.
Maybe some people could see StarFox and be disappointed Retro wasn't making a more mature game than this though.
My guesses in terms of possibility:
F-Zero open world racing+brawler RPG (think Arkham Knight maybe?)
Donkey Kong open world brawler RPG
StarFox squad based third person shooter
Bully style Punch-Out
Kid Icarus... something
Some fucking strange Zelda thing
But these are blind guesses.
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F-Zero confirmed.
Sci-fi writers and composer checks out.
F-Zero with a really in depth singleplayer. Putting that experience they got with Mario Kart courses to good use.
F-Zero confirmed.
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