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SPOILERS: God of War SPOILER Thread (SPOILER THREAD, BEWARE OF SPOILERS!)
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How many one-eyed all knowing characters are there in Nordic myth?
I've considered it because of reasons I've stated previously in this thread. In the Norse myths is that Odin sacrificed an eye to gain secret knowledge. He hung himself on Yggdrasil for 9 days and 9 nights to absorb all of the knowledge of the world. Mimir was beheaded during the Aesir-Vanir war, and Odin kept it as it recited knowledge and council to him, much like how Mimir does so to Kratos in the game. Although Mimir's missing eye was odd, which I at one point I suspected that Mimir was just Odin in disguise to observe Kratos. You first meet him attached to a tree and missing an eye. It was very suspect.
In regards to future games after Norse myths. In the game there is a mural that hints of four locations. Greece, Ireland, Japan, and Egypt.
That being said I think the next Pantheon after the Norse one is a bit to the East in Ireland because there is very few games that explore the Celtic myths and its gods.
We've seen Japan and Egypt before but Ireland and Celtic myths is rarely if ever glossed upon and it would be very refreshing to explore it.
Besides I bet there would be some awesome scenic views with the graphical engine that GoW has. A God of War in Ireland would be a sight to behold.
Unless Cory wants to completely change Norse mythology....sure!
He already has to a degree.
Case in point both Modi and Magni are amongst the few Gods that actually survive Ragnarok, however in the case of God of War they don't even live to see Ragnarok actually happen.
Also Mimir never lost an eye in the myths nor was hung to a tree as in the case of God of War.
However in the Norse myths Odin hung himself from Yggdrasil and gave up one of his eyes to gain tremendous knowledge. The only thing Mimir does share in the myths is him losing his head and reciting secret knowledge.
Yeah, Cory bends the mythology a bit, I agree.
But for one character to be someone else completely?
Baldur and Modi and Mogi go to the tree to talk to.........Odin? Or Baldur kicks Odin in the head?
Huh?
Honestly, it just wouldn't make sense.
There's no way Mimir is Odin. In the Lost Pages podcasts they explicitly say that Odin came to take one of Mimir's eyes away because he was paranoid about Mimir being in league with the giants and as a kind of revenge since he sacrificed one of his own eyes for knowledge.
They also mention Odin trapping Mimir in the tree.
They also mention Odin trapping Mimir in the tree.
90% sure it's Hræsvelgr, an eagle Giant who sits at the end of the underworld. There's not much information about him, though; he's only very briefly mentioned in the Poetic Edda.
Who else is underwhelmed with the axe pommel (Retribution Axe Pommel) you get for beating Valkyrie Queen Sigrun? I don't see what's so "powerful" about this thing--it just flies straight infinitely. Unless, I'm not using it correctly. It doesn't seem to pwn enemies any better based on my initial testing.
Might not even be Kratos, as someone else points out. But others speculate Krats and Tyr are the same person (No idea how that would work out again but hey, who knows).
I was getting it to constantly ricochet off enemies when recalled, but have no clue how. I did like how fast it is now and it's really good at killing the Crows, but was fucking me over sometimes as it'd go really far away.
seriously? what did it say exactly? Thank god i didn't read much of those
Agreed. It definitely fucks me over more than it helps. Though, the ricocheting effect you mentioned is interesting lol. I think what's messing with my flow is the fact that we kinda get used to the axe's mechanics throughout most of the game (the fact that it has a drop-off when thrown), and then have to re-adjust to the fact that this thing keeps going and going.
Weren't Freya's powers somewhat sealed in this game. I mean she could not leave Midgard, nor could she physical harm others or use her powers protect herself.
Even during the last fight against Baldur she could only reanimate Thamur in the attempt try and stop Baldur and Kratos from fighting but could not stop them directly. Even her magical roots held them in place in briefly and weren't much effect.
It would be interesting to see how Freya gets her full power back to the point she is enabled to attack. She herself was a Valkyrie. She has a field called Folkvangr where she gathers half of the fallen warriors. The other half is sent to Odin in Valhalla.
Even during the last fight against Baldur she could only reanimate Thamur in the attempt try and stop Baldur and Kratos from fighting but could not stop them directly. Even her magical roots held them in place in briefly and weren't much effect.
It would be interesting to see how Freya gets her full power back to the point she is enabled to attack. She herself was a Valkyrie. She has a field called Folkvangr where she gathers half of the fallen warriors. The other half is sent to Odin in Valhalla.
Agreed with this. This was the only time I felt the characters were not believable in the story. The arrogant Atreus transformation comes out of nowhere and stops out of nowhere too.What's more funny is that I've been doing some side activities in between that phase and he had "normal" dialogue again,then when I continued the story mission,he went arrogant again.I expected something better for such a good production till there.
The only believable reason for this to happen,would be a foreboding of his Loki and Atreus personality conflicting itself.Because if he is not possesed and he hasn't a split loki/atreus personality,imo it's a really bad character arc
Okay, question. Have a feeling I'm going to kick myself when I hear the answer. But...
There's two runic chests that show up each time in Ivaldi's Workshop in Niflhiem. One is in a random room and has some randomly-placed bells that you ring with the axe. I get that one each run through.
There's another one, though: it's right at the start, after you hurdle over a few small hedges or whatever. This chest is in the first big room, opposite the entrance to the center of the "lab" (where you go to open all the chests, do all the realm tears, etc). It's in the exact same place each time, except (I think?) with different runes on it.
How the hell do you open that thing? Every time I go through I keep looking for runes to destroy (or runic bells to hit), but I've never seen a single one. I've fully completed the area now, gold trophy and all, but that chest is still there and it's bugging me. How do you open it, and what's inside?
There's two runic chests that show up each time in Ivaldi's Workshop in Niflhiem. One is in a random room and has some randomly-placed bells that you ring with the axe. I get that one each run through.
There's another one, though: it's right at the start, after you hurdle over a few small hedges or whatever. This chest is in the first big room, opposite the entrance to the center of the "lab" (where you go to open all the chests, do all the realm tears, etc). It's in the exact same place each time, except (I think?) with different runes on it.
How the hell do you open that thing? Every time I go through I keep looking for runes to destroy (or runic bells to hit), but I've never seen a single one. I've fully completed the area now, gold trophy and all, but that chest is still there and it's bugging me. How do you open it, and what's inside?
That particular chest is opened by hitting these things which are scattered throughout the entire maze. You gotta look out for them
When you go around the maze, when you reach the main 'corners' of the maze, look up after defeating the enemies - there should be one of those things that you can hit with the Leviathan to change what rune it displays. Memorize the runes at the start, circle through the maze looking for the switches on top of the walls of the corner rooms, then return to the starting room to find your chest unlocked. It has a bunch of Mist Echoes and a possibly some other Niflheim materials and enchantments.
Might not even be Kratos, as someone else points out. But others speculate Krats and Tyr are the same person (No idea how that would work out again but hey, who knows).
Damn I hope it isn't 3 years until the sequel I'm intrigued
Don't have the exact wording memorized but it (rightly) mentioned that the blades of chaos were a good way of dealing with those frost dragur that are immune to the axe.
I had it pop up only about five hours into the game lol.
Man, is there no way to change the weather in post game? The skybox is butt ugly with static clouds. You don't get the moving clouds anymore and everything is drab because of the winter snow. I know they wanna make it feel different but now I'm stuck with this less appealing look of the game for postgame content. Ah well
I'm not quite sure I agree with the asshole Atreus part of the game was out of nowhere or unearned. I do think it was wrapped up a little too quickly but considering where both Kratos and Atreus where in both their own personal growth as well as everything that had happened around them before that moment led to his rather shitty behavior.
Kratos' had been teaching the boy the entire time and not necessarily in the manner he had meant to. Atreus had always respected and looked up to him even if they weren't always close like most fathers and sons. He was taking after Kratos who he was seeing come into his own on their journey to bring the ashes to the mountaintop. This included both his lessons but also his rage that was nearly bubbling over, him using violence to advance through life even he talked restraint, and all these lessons and teachings that were often tainted or twinged with darker less savory parts of Kratos as a character.
Then we have the moment itself where Atreus had nearly died after the incident with Modi. He is suddenly brought back only to find out that that he is a God. A kid who had nearly died not knowing who he really is finds out nearly after he's brought back to the land of the living. Its not just him being an asshole because he know's he is a God now but also a defensive mechanism to the fact he had almost just died and trying to mask that very real fear with arrogance and cruelty. Worse this is all compounded by the fact that he both found out his father had been lying to him for his entire life as well as the fact that he is a God. That anger at his father's long time lie and the knowledge he was something truly special led to a sudden attitude change that was only compounded by the desire to overcompensate for his near death experience and the effect that left on him.
Kratos also has a big part in all this outside of what he taught Atreus, both intentionally and unintentionally, as he almost lost his son; the last family he has in the world. Before the boy nearly dies Kratos was quick to correct him and reprimand him for his mistakes or bad behavior. However after Atreus comes back Kratos is incredibly quiet, even out right silent during the boys worsening outbursts to the point even Mimir asks him why he isn't intervening. Kratos own toxic way of handling his emotions comes back to haunt him yet again as instead of dealing with things head on like he had been, he retreats back into himself unsure of how to deal with not only his emotions but those of his boy.
All these things came together for me to really sell that part of the story and that change of character. It never seemed out of place or sudden as the game had been building to that mood shift for the entire story. I do think it resolved rather quickly and they seem to hint that there was something even more-so going on as Atreus doesn't even seem to remember killing Modi. Though that could also be him not wanting to admit that he let his emotions get the better of himself to the point he disobeyed his father and in doing so took a life.
Kratos' had been teaching the boy the entire time and not necessarily in the manner he had meant to. Atreus had always respected and looked up to him even if they weren't always close like most fathers and sons. He was taking after Kratos who he was seeing come into his own on their journey to bring the ashes to the mountaintop. This included both his lessons but also his rage that was nearly bubbling over, him using violence to advance through life even he talked restraint, and all these lessons and teachings that were often tainted or twinged with darker less savory parts of Kratos as a character.
Then we have the moment itself where Atreus had nearly died after the incident with Modi. He is suddenly brought back only to find out that that he is a God. A kid who had nearly died not knowing who he really is finds out nearly after he's brought back to the land of the living. Its not just him being an asshole because he know's he is a God now but also a defensive mechanism to the fact he had almost just died and trying to mask that very real fear with arrogance and cruelty. Worse this is all compounded by the fact that he both found out his father had been lying to him for his entire life as well as the fact that he is a God. That anger at his father's long time lie and the knowledge he was something truly special led to a sudden attitude change that was only compounded by the desire to overcompensate for his near death experience and the effect that left on him.
Kratos also has a big part in all this outside of what he taught Atreus, both intentionally and unintentionally, as he almost lost his son; the last family he has in the world. Before the boy nearly dies Kratos was quick to correct him and reprimand him for his mistakes or bad behavior. However after Atreus comes back Kratos is incredibly quiet, even out right silent during the boys worsening outbursts to the point even Mimir asks him why he isn't intervening. Kratos own toxic way of handling his emotions comes back to haunt him yet again as instead of dealing with things head on like he had been, he retreats back into himself unsure of how to deal with not only his emotions but those of his boy.
All these things came together for me to really sell that part of the story and that change of character. It never seemed out of place or sudden as the game had been building to that mood shift for the entire story. I do think it resolved rather quickly and they seem to hint that there was something even more-so going on as Atreus doesn't even seem to remember killing Modi. Though that could also be him not wanting to admit that he let his emotions get the better of himself to the point he disobeyed his father and in doing so took a life.
The sections from Atreus getting sick to him waking up arrogant to him going back to normal in Helheim seemed like setup for something in the next game(s) to me. The sky going black/red and ash in the sky, someone calling the serpent, Atreus acting strangely, Atreus being more concerned with the gate to Jotunheim collapsing than with the fight between Kratos and Baldur and Arteus commenting on how "that wasn't me" when watching the apparition of himself killing Modi. I think that series of events will be revisited later. If it's not then it's all really strange.
Interesting theory tbh, but I think there is too much against it.
So with all this wacky time stuff, what if Atreus ends up being the spartan Atreus Kratos talked about?
I think the only way around this is to make a manual save before you spread the ashes. I, like yourself, hated the drab skybox, so once I saw the endings I loaded up a previous save and proceeded to complete all the extra stuff.
Well I'm assuming she had some face to face time with him considering they had a kid together
That particular chest is opened by hitting these things which are scattered throughout the entire maze. You gotta look out for them
Oh damn, I've never seen one of those up there. Thanks for the help, I figured it was something like that.
Anyone come across a bug on the second playthrouth where they are stuck in broks workshop after retrieving the heart from helheim? Stuck here and can't go further game is fulky bugged. I've done everything I can think of to try and get past including loading a save game from an hour earlier and still the same problem... I think I saw a post from someone else about this before too. Seems to only Happen on the second playthrough...
Anyways i predict this is how it plays out... God of War Next... plays out in Asgard instead of Midgard for whatever reasons but my point is the end is Kratos dying to Odin or Thor....and Odin adopts "Loki" as his own... He grows up resenting Odin like Gammora resented Thanos for adopting and killing her real family....so Ragnorok is the third one and it ends with Loki killing the Norse Pantheon.....also at some-point Loki turns into a Wolf at some point as a call back to his quip in GoW (PS4)
Might not even be Kratos, as someone else points out. But others speculate Krats and Tyr are the same person (No idea how that would work out again but hey, who knows).
Actually it seems to me that Tyr's son is Atreus(Loki).The runes describe the death of the father,and at first it seems like Kratos is the one dying,but if Kratos isn't his father,it's actually foreseeing Tyr's death at the hands of Atreus.Also Atreus is pretty charesmatic in terms of knowledge like Tyr was. What if Kratos was entrusted to raising Atreus,since Faye and Tyr were hunted by Odin and knew about this all along?
Of course the spartan rage episode of Atreus might debunk this theory,but it might be shared to all the gods in some form. Who knows
Mimir says that the Jormungandr seen in the game was sent back in time during his fight with Thor during Ragnarok
He does. Wait for the brothers to reunite at shop and go there press triangle. One of the talks he apologies
I wonder if that'll explain how Kratos got to Midgard in the first place which actually might be answerable explanation in the follow-up.
I do wonder if it's really his son or he just raised him. At the very end he finally called him "son" and it was almost in an accepting way
One interesting thing about the last panel is that, while the others look brand new and reacted to Atreus's touch, this one seems... older. Derelict. Like it's been painted there, a long time ago, and forgotten. The others were in the open, this one hidden. I don't think that's a coincidence, that's just not how Barlog works.
As for Atreus being Kratos son or not, it's one of the very few things Barlog has categorically stated: he IS Kratos son.
As for Atreus being Kratos son or not, it's one of the very few things Barlog has categorically stated: he IS Kratos son.
but Atreus actually try to spartan rage. sure we don't know what really cause his anger sickness, but when kratos get shocked in tyr temple entrance, Atreus actually spartan rage.
Like, by blood? He said that? Or just his adopted son, but he won't share that with Atraeus?
I wish there was a way to revert my item appearances to low-level ones. Level 1 blades & axe > maxed out ones. Likewise with the armor options. But I also recognize it's a silly request, it doesn't matter. I just love the rough, aged look when you first get the Blades back.