Is that logic why they forced Africans to lose their roots?I learned that because the descendants of European immigrants lost their roots, Asian people aren't allowed to keep theirs either.
I learned that because the descendants of European immigrants lost their roots, Asian people aren't allowed to keep theirs either.
Whatever the intent, doing that pose while wearing a qipao has extra connotations that come with it, so I think the meme stuff is just a deflection.I am kinda like whatever about the dress, since she was wearing it to a formal event.. it wasn't like a halloween costume or something.
Edit: Aren't the poses they're doing also memes? Oh wait, I guess the memes are kinda racist too? I'm out of it. lol
Just wait until you have kids!You know, real talk, that's a question that bothers me.
I'm American, born and raised. But, as an American, I don't have any culture. America is so new that there aren't any roots here.
Like I'll look at Hawaiian people, or Native Americans, who still practice the dances of their "culture," you know? There's a sense of community in them. But... what do Americans have? Line dancing? Barn raising? Sister fucking? (jk on the last one okay).
My parents are from Asia. By that logic, you'd assume that my culture should be stuff like dragon dances and ribbon dances and all of that-- but I'm not Chinese in the sense that that's not my culture either. When I think about participating in any of those, I feel like a fraud... like I'm doing the movements without understanding the history behind it. Even just learning about it in a book here doesn't seem like it's the same as it being a cultural thing. Part of it, sure, is that Mao came and wiped out a lot of traditional stuff, which is a mindset bleeding into Chinese people even today imho.
But anyway I already don't "feel" Chinese and my kids will be even further from it. I feel like I've already lost my roots, that I don't have any. I'd even argue that holding onto it will just be excuses for other Americans to point to us and say "look see they don't want to integrate, they just wanna do their own thing, hang out with their own people" (because I see that sentiment ALL the time, even here on GAF when people try to excuse why they don't like "foreign Asian immigrant students"), though I suspect it's more to do with blatant racism and they'll find something else to be racist "but not racist, totally justified" about.
Okay sorry for that long rant, but it really strikes a super personal nerve that really, really, really bothers me. Just the feeling of being.... cut off, or not connected, with my "roots" - I don't feel like I HAVE any roots.
(Maybe I can start with own culture with hookers and blow!
Sometimes being a so cal asian feels like it's own unique subculture.)
Whatever the intent, doing that pose while wearing a qipao has extra connotations that come with it, so I think the meme stuff is just a deflection.
Also being a h3h3 fan is probably worse than the dress.
And wtf at the meme deflection/gaslighting. Is there such an ardent defense in other race-related topics?
I sort of began to realize this yesterday and it's 100% true - it extends to basically any thread about racism too. They have no frame of reference to empathize with PoC, or even lack any incentive to, which is why we see so much hand wringing over intent. It's much more convenient, and less uncomfortable, taking the side of people like the girl in the dress rather than considering how actual minorities may feel.Because they're white and some of them have Asian girlfriends/wives, taught English in Asia, like anime
Just a friendly reminder how quick allies are to dismiss/handwave racism towards asians.
Honestly, we need to start reporting posts. If the bans come, it'll send a message. I'm on mobile most of the time, so I can't report a billion posts...lolz
spider you out there?
"It's not racist."
Yeah I'm sure if some little Chinese high school kid put on a charcoal mask and made gang signs, it'd totally be not racist at all to these people too.
Like, whatever, some people don't want white people parading around in their ethnic garb. Not surprised since in the US white people kind of have a history of raping and murdering and discriminating those same ethnic groups in other contexts. I can't say it honestly bothers me personally-- wear what you want (but I kinda feel this way about all things - Native American headdresses, dreadlocks, kimonos), but I can understand why others might not feel the same way.
*edit: That's the thing, Cybit . I don't ... feel Chinese. And I don't mean this in a self hating way, I have no desires to be white, but in a... China is a country with their own culture and I'm just not a part of it in any way, therefore, I'm not Chinese. I guess I feel American, but not like raised in a barn in Iowa eating nothing but beef and corn kind of American, but ... Asian American? Boba and pho and raves in college kinda thing.
I didn't realise how bad LGBT relations were in China...
I took a student to the Gay Village and she ranted a little about back home.
As one of those raised in a barn (not really, but relatively speaking, rural area) in the midwest folks, all y'all are as American as anyone else. Most of us from there would agree. I mean, part of what's complicated about being "American" is that "American" is a big mish-mash of other cultures. So, the indian guy eating Mexican food with his white Irish-Polish-German wife and then going to get gelato afterward is pretty American. I'm actually pretty proud of that. That can't happen easily in other countries. (I tend to call myself Indian-American)
At least this forum seem sympathetic towards Indians and their issues. So they like some Asians?
I am kinda like whatever about the dress, since she was wearing it to a formal event.. it wasn't like a halloween costume or something.
Edit: Aren't the poses they're doing also memes? Oh wait, I guess the memes are kinda racist too? I'm out of it. lol
This was the thread https://www.resetera.com/threads/high-school-student-shamed-for-choice-of-prom-dress.39384/hi hi hi
sorry, work has been absolutely killing me at the moment in real and i haven't been paying attention (a massive restructure is going on and everyone's anxious and i mean, even I am anxious but i'm supposed to be the one that provides other anxious people an outlet) (the prospect of losing jobs is scary :<)
what is the bad thread?
(also there's a few other asian mods to call on if i'm not around !) (Galvan, Queen Kong, to name a couple...)
There are at least 3 Asian mods, but spider is the only one that participates in this thread.Do we even have Asian representation on the Moderator team?
Seems like most other groups are represented in some way.
This country really is terrible