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Dragon Ball Z: Dokkan Battle |OT| Gacha, Head Gacha

TeamLeftMatch

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Kito said:
Ah, very cool! Which characters aside from UI Goku can pull that off on JP?
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Right now, on JP the 3rd anniversary gave them (which well will probably get in July for Global's 3rd anniversary) LR Goku and Vegeta which transforms into super Vegito and LR Angel Goku and Vegeta which transforms into Gogeta. Their transformation is pretty restrictive though (below 50% after 6 turns which they then heal to full when they transform). Turles has a chance to eat the fruit from the tree of might when he below 80% (but that is bad because he goes from an great support to a decent hard hitter but it isn't permanent) and in like 2 days there will be a SSB Vegeta that will transform, and maybe Jiren as well if they give him that.
 
Kito

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Thanks for all the info! I'm assuming once UI Goku's Dokkan hits, there will be a huge banner for him again? I'll start saving to hopefully get a second!
 
Estarossa

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It's almost impossible to find leads other than LR VB, TEQ VB and STR Rose. Yes, RUB in the fact that I have none of those units why don't ya
 
Mewzard

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Styles said:
It's almost impossible to find leads other than LR VB, TEQ VB and STR Rose. Yes, RUB in the fact that I have none of those units why don't ya
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At least LR Vegetto Blue is earnable. Not a fast earn, but still (one INT FB unit away...come on Purple Stone, I'll use you on Super Gogeta and have my last one).
 

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Mewzard

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I just realized, even removing Fusions/Potaras/Goku Black/Saiyans with non Saiyans (ala Vegeta & Bulma)...there are five LR Pure Saiyan characters. You could run five entire LRs under the new Vegeta Blue Pure Saiyan Leader: LR Goku (the spirit bomb one), LR SSJ Goku, LR SSJ3 Goku, LR Majin Vegeta, and LR Broli.

That...that'd be a crazy team.
 

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Mewzard said:
I just realized, even removing Fusions/Potaras/Goku Black/Saiyans with non Saiyans (ala Vegeta & Bulma)...there are five LR Pure Saiyan characters. You could run five entire LRs under the new Vegeta Blue Pure Saiyan Leader: LR Goku (the spirit bomb one), LR SSJ Goku, LR SSJ3 Goku, LR Majin Vegeta, and LR Broli.

That...that'd be a crazy team.
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You're not gonna get great synergy with that team. Like you'll never get LR SSJ3's 18 ki off, which renders him pretty useless. (edit: actually he starts at 11ki linked with MV so it's kind of viable) Also it's "balanced" by the 130% attack buff. I can run LR Broly and MV on a 170% attack team that will blow this hypothetical team out of the water. This Vegeta is a nice leader for playing around with, or people with a lot of cards but no other top-tier category team, but it's held back by the leader skill. Not to say that it isn't 100% viable because it is. But it will never be top-tier, even with the best possible team you can run with it.
 
novashibe

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Finally getting somewhere with the higher end stuff in this game, beat Boss Rush 3 last night, finally.

Team currently stands as TEQ Vegito Blue leader (SA10, 1 dupe), AGL Super Vegito (SA6, 1 dupe), STR Super Gogeta (SA2, 1 dupe), PHY SS3 Gotenks (SA5), STR SS4 Goku (SA10) and INT SSB Vegeta (SA4, 1 dupe). Think this set-up is pretty good, especially if you get the double VB lead.

TEQ VB is just so broken, it's disgusting at times.
 
cyldman

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Hello guys,

Talking about TEQ VB.
I started 4 days ago in this game, My SSR's consists in TEQ VB, Rose, Goku black, Gotenks SSR, SSJ4 Goku and some other not so relevant SSR.
I know my team is pretty much non existant at the moment, but my real question is, I am rank 45, and I have 50 stones.
Would you save for anni, or would you get 10 kais from the current banner for TEQ VB SA10?
 
Shito

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cyldman said:
Hello guys,

Talking about TEQ VB.
I started 4 days ago in this game, My SSR's consists in TEQ VB, Rose, Goku black, Gotenks SSR, SSJ4 Goku and some other not so relevant SSR.
I know my team is pretty much non existant at the moment, but my real question is, I am rank 45, and I have 50 stones.
Would you save for anni, or would you get 10 kais from the current banner for TEQ VB SA10?
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As someone who started this game not so long ago (around november last year), I would advise you to keep your stones. Right now you need cards, so you should be spending the majority of your stones on pulls, especially since you probably still have quite a lot of kais to farm from the baba shop!
Also, don't underestimate the discounted banners, they can help you with building a first proper team, you generally won't find the supports on the dokkan or dual dokkan banners! For example back when I started I had some great help by pulling some supports and buffers / debuffers for my fusion team.
 
Pocket Sand

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I did some soul searching while I was on my way to work today and the thought of how few and far between WTs have been going on recently and I realized something that might make a real game changer to Dokkan: Solid constant PvP.

If they kept something like the WT in constant cycle throughout the year I think that would give a LOT more motivation to play/enjoy the game. With how scarce new quest missions and WTs are we're currently just grinding out units until the next banner and I think thats one of the reason why everyone is getting so bitter at the banners is cause there is NOTHING really going on to benefit these drops. The Z-Battles were a nice addition but those only last for a little bit then we just go back to the usual grinds. If they had that constant PvP (Ex: Arena Battles in FE Heroes) Keep it on a weekly or monthly basis with mid-high level rewards that benefit the player that might lower sodium counts and wouldnt make people so furious at the game.
 
Estarossa

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While other gacha games receive new content literally every week, dokkan is stuck recycling the same old story events for months on end and Akatsuki and Bmaco knows they can get away with it. Kinda infuriating
 
Pocket Sand

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Styles said:
While other gacha games receive new content literally every week, dokkan is stuck recycling the same old story events for months on end and Akatsuki and Bmaco knows they can get away with it. Kinda infuriating
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The sad part is thats true they know people will keep playing just because of the brand that the game is based around. A lot of people are getting mad cause the only thing that updates with new material is the banners and from what Im seeing on here and Twitter you dont really see anyone getting good results most of the time. It really is just luck with the bad RNG. And if they just threw in that QoL constant PvP addition then that would really help lower the frustration that people have behind Dokkan.
 
Flipmenex

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I disagree because 1) I hate PVP in general, and 2) the world tournament is barely even PVP. It's just another extreme grind - one of the worst in fact.

Also, direct PVP would widen the gap between Whales and regular players even more, I think if anything it would make people even more salty for not being able to pull units / dupes to compete with rainbowed teams.
 
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fuck PVP, this game just needs ANY kind of endgame. every time they come close to it with something like EZA, SBR, and Battlefield 2.0. But then they don't make it so that there's a reason to come back to it weekly or whatever. It's baffling. All they need to do is give these modes some kind of weekly reset with rewards like orbs, stones, kais, whatever. It's so easy to do but they either don't get it or don't care. This game is just 99% mindless grinding and then 1% actually new and/or challenging content every few weeks/months, if you're a long-time player. At this point I've given up hope that they'll ever make a proper endgame.
 
Flipmenex

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I mean, why even try, right?

As it is, the game is constantly on the top grossing list whenever a new banner comes out, so they have very little incentive to change things.

The "hard" content is just more health bars / removing ability to Stun or Seal / making it so it's even more RNG than usual.

This game will never be a Clash of Clans or whatever is always on the top 10, but these monthly spikes must be enough to keep them happy.
 
Pocket Sand

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I dunno I still think having some time of consistent PvP would just give players something to do and work towards at the end of the day until a new banner, story mode, or WT but hey thats just me PvP isnt for everyone.
 
BennyWhatever

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Man, those new ToP cards are so cool. Can't wait for them to come to Global.
"Pure Saiyan" Category also seems broken AF. I hope I pull that lead when he gets here; he looks so sweet.
 
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BennyWhatever said:
Man, those new ToP cards are so cool. Can't wait for them to come to Global.
"Pure Saiyan" Category also seems broken AF. I hope I pull that lead when he gets here; he looks so sweet.
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Woof that is a really busted category there is a LOT to work with on there.

Should of been shirtless Jiren but thats me being nit picky.
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New Ribrianne's leader skill is worse then the F2P Ribrianne but the Giant proc makes up for it I suppose.
 
Kito

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I hope they don't just leave this game on autopilot once the new DBZ mobile game releases. Being that the new one is PvP-centric, it'd be nice if they'd invest in some sort of co-op mode for Dokkan. A pipe dream, I know, but still...
 
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JPN getting a "Sleepy Elder Kai" card, which has a 30% chance to raise the SA of the training character. It's a daily mission reward for using 50 STA. Pretty cool - I'm excited to get that some day.
 

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Kito said:
I hope they don't just leave this game on autopilot once the new DBZ mobile game releases. Being that the new one is PvP-centric, it'd be nice if they'd invest in some sort of co-op mode for Dokkan. A pipe dream, I know, but still...
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it's been on autopilot for 2+ years so don't expect it to change dramatically
 
Mewzard

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Firaga said:
Permanent gssr for all multis in jpn.
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As much as I'd love that to hit global soon...I fear we're going to be waiting for about six months for that...

Curiously, about when should we expect the Ginyu Force event and the EZA for Gohan? Really looking forward to getting some awesome free teams I know I can do well.
 
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This system is definitely more helpful towards new players since a mulit at least garantees and SSR for them. I hope this is not the only thing they change as they would need to change the summon animation now (or just not count the last unit for the animation so getting a bye guys or SSJ3 let's you know you got a SSR that's not from the garanteed one) like a revamped friend system is mandatory at this point (like you can pick which leader when you select a friend, which would put more emphasis on the different teams since people can see what leaders you have) and they need to add better events in the game. Super 17 event was actually more fun going through it becuase you have to mix ki and non ki attackers to lower his shield and then hope they don't super attack healing him. More of that instead of just "you can stun or seal or lower attack and defense so fuck trying out any interesting or fun team."


Right now with just team there is no reason to ever give them money (and don't give them money to begin with) so like I'll be F2P from no one since they keeping the meta stale.
 
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TeamLeftMatch said:
This system is definitely more helpful towards new players since a mulit at least garantees and SSR for them. I hope this is not the only thing they change as they would need to change the summon animation now (or just not count the last unit for the animation so getting a bye guys or SSJ3 let's you know you got a SSR that's not from the garanteed one) like a revamped friend system is mandatory at this point (like you can pick which leader when you select a friend, which would put more emphasis on the different teams since people can see what leaders you have) and they need to add better events in the game. Super 17 event was actually more fun going through it becuase you have to mix ki and non ki attackers to lower his shield and then hope they don't super attack healing him. More of that instead of just "you can stun or seal or lower attack and defense so fuck trying out any interesting or fun team."


Right now with just team there is no reason to ever give them money (and don't give them money to begin with) so like I'll be F2P from no one since they keeping the meta stale.
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I think this is helpful toward everyone, but yeah, moreso newcomers.
This is a step toward the right direction but I think there's still more things to change:
1. The SSR pool. No one cares about pulling AGL Goku SSJ or TEQ Vegeta SSJ. No one. These are useless cards which are beaten by a wide margin by F2P units such as the AGL SSJ2 Vegeta which counter and which SA is farmable. These old units should be removed from the gacha SSR pool and moved to the friend banner as super rare pools.
2. Remove the R units from the gacha banners. Move them to the friend banner.
 
A Pretty Panda

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When I'm pulling it's for the dokkan fest characters. Often times only one of them. Similar to "take the Rs away" this doesn't actually help me pull what I want.
 

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A Pretty Panda said:
When I'm pulling it's for the dokkan fest characters. Often times only one of them. Similar to "take the Rs away" this doesn't actually help me pull what I want.
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yeah pretty much. it's just gonna change the disappointment from the dead multi to the frustration of pulling unfeatured crap. The only time this is good for me is summoning on banners with LRs on them.

It IS still an improvement, but I think it's being overstated, especially for longtime players. This is much better for newbies though.
 
A Pretty Panda

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You can say a multi would guarantee 10 SSRs and it wouldn't really matter that much if the rate for featured cards remains the same.

This does up the chance to pull LRs but I'm still not pulling on those banners.

As far as unfeatured cards that are really worth pulling it's pretty much Kefla and Angry Vegeta.
 
BennyWhatever

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They're pretty good at making low-mid-tier cards come back as somewhat viable later on (see EZA Family Kamehameha cards), so I'm fine with GSSR even if it's unfeatured. I like making wonky teams with suboptimal units.
 
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