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Oct 25, 2017
2,306
Texas
I think you need to educate yourself on what a phobia is...

"an extreme or irrational fear of or aversion to something."

Statistics are not going to make a difference.

Sure I know what a phobia is. That's why I asked the user how he would approach it. I think it's wrong to say there's no way to eliminate a phobia. People do it all the time. The approach just needs to be tailored to the individual.
 

Fhtagn

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,615
I'm completely mortified of heights. Falling from a great height is one of my biggest fears. I've only flown a few times but the few hours on the planes petrified me.

Yeah my aversion to flying isn't a rational feeling about the flight itself and more about the intrusive thoughts about what could go wrong that I have when trying to fall asleep in the months leading up to a flight.
 

brandonh83

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,409
Yeah my aversion to flying isn't a rational feeling about the flight itself and more about the intrusive thoughts about what could go wrong that I have when trying to fall asleep in the months leading up to a flight.

Right, I don't actually worry about something happening, I simply do not enjoy being high up lol. I tried climbing a lighthouse once and only made it about 1/3 of the way up before turning back and I couldn't even see outside.
 

jstevenson

Developer at Insomniac Games
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,042
Burbank CA
I'm completely mortified of heights. Falling from a great height is one of my biggest fears. I've only flown a few times but the few hours on the planes petrified me.

Hmm, I don't like heights either, but aircraft heights make it impossible to really tell how high you are, if that makes sense. Jumping out of a plane was like, well, what's the difference between 100 feet and 13000 feet?

I could have sworn I read that it was just a myth you could get sucked out of an airplane if a window broke or anything

It basically is a myth. It would require a catastrophic failure of the fuselage to have people "blown out" of the plane. The pressurization difference isn't large enough to create that suction, it's a big "pop" and that's it.

Now certainly, 400-500mph windspeed outside that window will create some mild suction, and a lot of noise and stuff. But a window blowing out couldn't suck an adult passenger out, especially one wearing a seat-belt
 

Taki

Attempt to circumvent a ban with an alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
5,308
Amtrak seats always face forwards.

Just sit towards the back.

BTW, nothing beats this classic

April-28-1988-Stewardess-Sucked-Out-of-Jet-Airliner-in-Flight-1.jpg

NOO
 

jstevenson

Developer at Insomniac Games
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,042
Burbank CA
Wasn't there a issue last week but not as bad as this for southwest :X

if you're talking about the pilot that flew into that Thunderstorm over New Orleans - that incident may actually end up being "worse" --- not from a loss of life perspective, of course, but because it was a bad decision by a pilot to take the aircraft into that storm... versus this which may have just been a freak, and unavoidable, accident.
 

Flo_Evans

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,250
Really curious as to cause of death here.

The physics of this shouldn't allow anyone to really be "sucked out". The plane depressuriZation is basically instant. Now the external airspeed could mean that part of the passengers body could've been immediately outside, head or arm or whatever, causing serious injury. (Imagine sticking your hand outside your car window at that speed, etc). But assuming the passenger was seatbelted, I don't think they could've been actually pulled out. You also could understand the terror of the situation causing a heart attack or something too as well as the possibility for injury given the violent damage to the window

If you know these engines, they are incredibly reliable and they know when they will fail based on the data from them. This is a catastrophic failure for the titanium casing to not hold the shrapnel. Very curious what happened there too.

That said, the airframe itself should've never been in jeopardy from it. The 737 can land no problem on one engine, the oxygen masks did their job while the plane descended to safe Altitude.

The air moving fast over the hole will create a vacuum because of the bernoulli effect. Same principle that allows the plane to fly. You can notice this going down the highway and rolling down your window, there goes your mcdonalds receipts out the window.
 

jstevenson

Developer at Insomniac Games
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,042
Burbank CA
The air moving fast over the hole will create a vacuum because of the bernoulli effect. Same principle that allows the plane to fly. You can notice this going down the highway and rolling down your window, there goes your mcdonalds receipts out the window.

not enough of a vacuum to suck someone out of a plane
 

Yasuke

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
19,817
Well, this didn't help my fear of flying.

I know it's safer than driving, morons. My fear of heights and not being in control of my method of travel doesn't care.
 

jstevenson

Developer at Insomniac Games
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,042
Burbank CA
Maybe not IDK. She could of been sucked to the window from the initial depressurization then unable to move away because of the vacuum. She could of been standing up to go to the bathroom and then fell into the window.

again --- she wasn't going to get sucked through that small window hole. Totally agree she may have been partially outside of that window from whatever initial decompression / shock / injury.

But it's not like the suction force is so intense it's going to pull her out.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,565
Are you implying she's still alive?

Well it's happened before, as insane as it sounds.

She holds the Guinness world record for surviving the highest fall without a parachute: 10,160 metres (33,330 ft). Her fall took place after an explosion tore through the baggage compartment of JAT Flight 367 on 26 January 1972, causing it to crash near Srbská Kamenice, Czechoslovakia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vesna_Vulović
 
Oct 27, 2017
2,711
http://abcnews.go.com/US/plane-makes-emergency-landing-philadelphia/story?id=54530003

the victim has been identified, there's no direct confirmation that she was the person who was sucked into the window, but reading between the lines basically confirms it
The men were able to pull the woman back in and performed CPR on her, Adams said. One of the men then stood in front of the broken window so no one else would get hurt, she said, adding that she thought "the plane was going down."

RIP

edit: CNN just confirmed it was the same prson
 

Feep

Lead Designer, Iridium Studios
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
4,596
If you're falling at like, 500 miles per hour and jump at the last second at a speed of 5 miles per hour, you crash into the ground at 495 miles per hour.
Terminal velocity in Earth's atmosphere is somewhere around 120 mph, not 500, but I think that poster was just joking.
 

Tigress

Member
Oct 25, 2017
7,143
Washington
Its why I've never crossed one.

I'd have to go by boat. I'll take my chances treading water over flapping my arms.

Honestly, I'd be more nervous/uncomfortable in a boat. Boats are the only thing that make motion sick for one (not always but they can). Dieing slowly in the ocean doesn't sound all that nice to me (or being eaten by sharks). More time for something bad to happen. And have you seen that video some one did of ships crossing the ocean on rough seas? I promise you that looks a lot more scary than most anytime I've been on a plane.

I have no idea though which one is statistically more dangerous. I'd almost guess boat.


I hope the passanger recovers quickly.

Also please stop the anti-window seat propaganda.

Nah... continue with the anti-window seat propaganda. The more people scared of window seats the easier it is for me to get one *grin*.
 

HyperFerret

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,140
RIP.

My mom says I'm silly for always wearing my seatbelt on a plane unless I have to use the bathroom but now I'll definitely never take it off.
 

smoothj

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
1,341
Welp.. I have a Southwest flight tomorrow. Good thing I have priority boarding, ailse seat close to the front for damn sure.
 

Socivol

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,660
What's really shitty for the woman that died is since this is Southwest she picked that seat. Had she chosen to sit anywhere else she would still be alive. Stuff like that is so sad to me. A small choice leading to the end of your life.
 

TheBeardedOne

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
22,189
Derry
I heard someone died when something about it came on the news. Well, a commercial for the news.

That's awfully sad and tragic. May she rest in peace.
 

DHARMA PUNX

Banned
Mar 22, 2018
536
Horrible, RIP

Can't help be reminded of the plane scene from one of the Final Destination flicks. Absolutely terrifying.