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Hearthstone |OT1| New Era, Same Meta
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I wish I could get the warlock gnome
unfortunately I don't have firesides near me or friends
unfortunately I don't have firesides near me or friends
you can actually get it really easily with an android emulator on pc
still waiting on the rush deck ;_;
but then it wouldn't feel right :(
Which version? Baku is supposed to be seeing less success now, but the normal version is okay
However, as long as Cubelock is around in its current form Quest Warrior will underperform, as you need to complete Quest on Turn 6/7 to stand a chance.
This is the random rush warrior I found somewhere, probably hsreplay.
### Rush Warrior
# Class: Warrior
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
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# 2x (1) Fire Fly
# 2x (1) Town Crier
# 2x (1) Whirlwind
# 2x (2) Battle Rage
# 2x (2) Redband Wasp
# 2x (2) Slam
# 2x (2) Woodcutter's Axe
# 2x (3) Acolyte of Pain
# 2x (3) Frothing Berserker
# 1x (3) Rabid Worgen
# 2x (4) Blood Razor
# 2x (4) Kor'kron Elite
# 2x (4) Militia Commander
# 1x (5) Darius Crowley
# 2x (5) Festeroot Hulk
# 1x (8) Grommash Hellscream
# 1x (8) The Lich King
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### Rush Warrior
# Class: Warrior
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Raven
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# 2x (1) Fire Fly
# 2x (1) Town Crier
# 2x (1) Whirlwind
# 2x (2) Battle Rage
# 2x (2) Redband Wasp
# 2x (2) Slam
# 2x (2) Woodcutter's Axe
# 2x (3) Acolyte of Pain
# 2x (3) Frothing Berserker
# 1x (3) Rabid Worgen
# 2x (4) Blood Razor
# 2x (4) Kor'kron Elite
# 2x (4) Militia Commander
# 1x (5) Darius Crowley
# 2x (5) Festeroot Hulk
# 1x (8) Grommash Hellscream
# 1x (8) The Lich King
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I played Baku then gave up and played a regular Kripp version but didn't get a single paladin/aggro deck.
Yeah, with that deck you are pretty much targeting aggro, so if you are not matching into them best to change, or wait until the meta shifts bit more back to aggro
I thought the same, but liked it early in Witchwood. Blackwald Pixie was great for extra burst from Hero power, and taunts were easier to get out with echo.
yeah, it's definitely anticlimactic.
speakig of rush warrior, i just got completely shat on by one turn 5 while playing cubelock. felt really bad!
thanks. yeah im missing a good chunk of that. i did open Darius on witchwood day though.
ill make something work for the quest anyways. definitely gonna miss not having Grommash though.
actually Town Crier is the worst one not to have in this deck probably...
Agreed, finally my hadronox can be useful.
But I put 2 greedy sprite and 1 faceless instead of oakheart.
With all of the Paladin running around in Wild, Patron Warrior is making a bit of a comeback - someone hit legend with the deck and went 18-3 against Paladins during the climb. lol
Here is blue eyes
### WHITE DRAGON
# Class: Priest
# Format: Wild
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# 1x (1) Chameleos
# 2x (1) Northshire Cleric
# 1x (2) Doomsayer
# 1x (2) Netherspite Historian
# 2x (2) Shadow Visions
# 1x (2) Shadow Word: Pain
# 1x (2) Wyrmrest Agent
# 2x (3) Shadow Word: Death
# 2x (3) Tar Creeper
# 1x (3) Twilight Acolyte
# 2x (4) Duskbreaker
# 1x (4) Priest of the Feast
# 2x (4) Twilight Guardian
# 2x (5) Cobalt Scalebane
# 2x (5) Drakonid Operative
# 1x (6) Dragonfire Potion
# 1x (6) Lady in White
# 1x (6) Mossy Horror
# 1x (7) Psychic Scream
# 1x (7) Wyrmguard
# 1x (8) Shadowreaper Anduin
# 1x (9) Ysera
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I'd use another acolyte but I'm not spending the dust for it. Mossy horror is a great card for any wild deck that can last to turn ten 7 vs pally. its INSANE against spreading plague as well
I need to add a primordial drake tho just not sure where
### WHITE DRAGON
# Class: Priest
# Format: Wild
#
# 1x (1) Chameleos
# 2x (1) Northshire Cleric
# 1x (2) Doomsayer
# 1x (2) Netherspite Historian
# 2x (2) Shadow Visions
# 1x (2) Shadow Word: Pain
# 1x (2) Wyrmrest Agent
# 2x (3) Shadow Word: Death
# 2x (3) Tar Creeper
# 1x (3) Twilight Acolyte
# 2x (4) Duskbreaker
# 1x (4) Priest of the Feast
# 2x (4) Twilight Guardian
# 2x (5) Cobalt Scalebane
# 2x (5) Drakonid Operative
# 1x (6) Dragonfire Potion
# 1x (6) Lady in White
# 1x (6) Mossy Horror
# 1x (7) Psychic Scream
# 1x (7) Wyrmguard
# 1x (8) Shadowreaper Anduin
# 1x (9) Ysera
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I'd use another acolyte but I'm not spending the dust for it. Mossy horror is a great card for any wild deck that can last to turn ten 7 vs pally. its INSANE against spreading plague as well
I need to add a primordial drake tho just not sure where
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I literally know someone in real life who quit the game when patrons were popular, so clearly this is not a universal opinion. :P
Hey, Scarlet!
Just a question about OMGodfrey! What makes Control Lock a better choice for laddering than Cube Lock? Is Rin worth the loss of Doomguard / Skull shenanigans? I realized that I have most of the stuff in your list--I'd just need to craft Rin. I'm not sure if I'd stick with it, since I tend to avoid tier one decks, but at least it doesn't abuse Charge for cheap wins.
edit: Sonic, I haven't played Wild, but is Dragonfire Potion preferred to Lightbomb? Seems like most of your creatures would survive it. I guess it would be less effective against Void Lords...
edit 2: Yeah, taunt druid has been a LOT of fun and performs well. I also like Lunara ^^ Her Wow! emote is just below Anduin / Morgle tier in terms of BM. Elemental shaman has been really fun too, but loses more (about a 55% WR). It's a lot easier to chain Elementals now with Earthen Might and Hagatha is ridiculously fun!
Just a question about OMGodfrey! What makes Control Lock a better choice for laddering than Cube Lock? Is Rin worth the loss of Doomguard / Skull shenanigans? I realized that I have most of the stuff in your list--I'd just need to craft Rin. I'm not sure if I'd stick with it, since I tend to avoid tier one decks, but at least it doesn't abuse Charge for cheap wins.
edit: Sonic, I haven't played Wild, but is Dragonfire Potion preferred to Lightbomb? Seems like most of your creatures would survive it. I guess it would be less effective against Void Lords...
edit 2: Yeah, taunt druid has been a LOT of fun and performs well. I also like Lunara ^^ Her Wow! emote is just below Anduin / Morgle tier in terms of BM. Elemental shaman has been really fun too, but loses more (about a 55% WR). It's a lot easier to chain Elementals now with Earthen Might and Hagatha is ridiculously fun!
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lightbomb is usually better but this deck has lady in white. lightbomb is a suicide mission after using her, while dragonfire doesn't touch a large portion of my dragon deck
Yeah Patron was the only warrior deck I ever enjoyed playing. Such a skill demanding deck. And Miracle is my all time favourite. Especially the old version, and not the weird ones we have today.
LOL!
Oh, yeah. You're right, LiW kills that pretty quick. loool
I don't know about overall control warlock win rate in HS, not even sure if it's a tier 1.
Personally I don't play cubelock cuz I need 100% certainty that my lackey will pull my Voidlord, instead of doomguard especially against aggro.
The control deck has 9 removal: Lord godfrey, 2 nether, 2 defile, 2 hellfire, 2 voodoo doll and maybe you can count 2 sac pact as removal which is great against mirror, and also for healing against aggro and silence. So you never have to worry about your board, cuz you can easily control it unless you have the worst RNG.
I'd say the only bad match up is against taunt druid, cuz your removal aren't enough against 7 hadronox. You can win against the rest of 8 class.
Initially I used 2 rotten applebaum instead of 2 gnomeferatu, eventhough in KnC I consistently used gnomeferatu. I faced few control warlock and I lost because they used gnomeferatu and milled my key cards like Gul'dan. That's why I replaced it with gnomeferatu it in rank 1.
Rin is a amazing especially against priest. If you get it in time around turn 6/7, you can fatigue your opponent. if you have it later, you can use the seal as minion on your boards when at this point cubelock has 0 minions left.
Also Elise is a way to fill your hands in fatigue. I usually play her when I had 0 cards in deck.
So, you had a positive winrate against Cubelock? The Demonic Sacrifices were enough to turn the tide? What do you do, cheat out a void lord, clear the board to force his Guldan, then Twisting Nether again? Are you relying on Rin to destroy their library?
edit: I'm interesting in playing Control, but if Taunt Druid is legend-worthy, then I might just stick to that. It's a pretty fun deck. ^^
I didn't track it, but my deck is heavily favored against cube, like 80%. Not only positive, it destroyed cube.
Demonic sacrifice is sacrifical pact, right? Yeah also ooze helps against them. If they play lackey, you can trade it with yours, if it's doomguard, you can kill them for 0 mana and heal yourself. With a destroyed skull, they are forced to play doomguard and discard their hand.
Or if you want to clear the board after their Gul'dan, you can use sac pact on void lord, trade your minions on their 2nd voidlord, and then use nether for a clear board.
Yeah, I ended up using Azari a lot to destroy their deck. You can use Rin's seals for minion in fatigue. When it's fatigue turn, they had 0 minion left, and you still have lot of resources in Elise and Rin.
Against slow deck Rin is very useful.
Demonic sacrifice is sacrifical pact, right? Yeah also ooze helps against them. If they play lackey, you can trade it with yours, if it's doomguard, you can kill them for 0 mana and heal yourself. With a destroyed skull, they are forced to play doomguard and discard their hand.
Or if you want to clear the board after their Gul'dan, you can use sac pact on void lord, trade your minions on their 2nd voidlord, and then use nether for a clear board.
Yeah, I ended up using Azari a lot to destroy their deck. You can use Rin's seals for minion in fatigue. When it's fatigue turn, they had 0 minion left, and you still have lot of resources in Elise and Rin.
Against slow deck Rin is very useful.
Interessssting! Thanks for the write up! 80% WR against Cube is pretty appealing! ^^ Maybe I can stick with three decks this month: Elemental Shaman, Taunt Druid, and Control Warlock. It'd cost some dust upfront, but if I can hit rank 5, then that would help. Not sure I want to be stranded at rank 5 next month with all the good players though.
Apparently, I've chosen 4 of the most difficult decks to play I could find. I think my motto is high win-rate low popularity. Which means playing the stuff that hurts my brain.
Even Shaman, Odd Quest Warrior, Odd Rogue, Even Warlock. I will take my own credit and say that Even Shaman was the first thing I made and it ended up miraculously like the deck lists seen now.
The other 3 are netdecked though, I won't lie.
Even Shaman, Odd Quest Warrior, Odd Rogue, Even Warlock. I will take my own credit and say that Even Shaman was the first thing I made and it ended up miraculously like the deck lists seen now.
The other 3 are netdecked though, I won't lie.
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I still really love Overload Shaman - even though almost no one is playing it. It has the biggest swing turn of any deck in this game... a 32/32 board, with no way to fully clear. If you fully clear (Twisting Nether) another 32/32 appears.
https://hsreplay.net/decks/2PYWOef0SrQyABWTJfeHPd/
https://hsreplay.net/decks/2PYWOef0SrQyABWTJfeHPd/
I recorded my last game against cubelock like from 5 minutes ago, when it's uploaded I'll @ you
OK im loving rush warrior. way too much fun!
broke down and crafted two Town Criers and made a little janky homebrew deck and its doing well. definitely fun. a well optimized rush deck would probably do pretty well in the right hands.
i have now officially crafted WAY too many new decks and i need to pick one or two to try and stick with. easier said than done.
yeah ive played evenlock and odd rogue and they are both good but hard decks to play well.
broke down and crafted two Town Criers and made a little janky homebrew deck and its doing well. definitely fun. a well optimized rush deck would probably do pretty well in the right hands.
i have now officially crafted WAY too many new decks and i need to pick one or two to try and stick with. easier said than done.
yeah ive played evenlock and odd rogue and they are both good but hard decks to play well.
I just crafted Rin, my last Voidlord, and one more Twisting Nether. Jumped into a game with the Innkeeper and almost lost. LOL
Will probably take some time before I'm used to it, but I like control decks and this one seems....fairer....than Cubelock. lol
They're all cards that aren't from this set anyway, so I don't mind too much. Hoping I pull another Deathweb Spider and some Banes of Doom for my MasoWarlock deck...and a Prince Liam....and a Genn...and an Arugal...lol
The amount of self heal and removal warlocks have is just out of this world. And now they got the best removal minion in the game on top of that. I wouldnt mind it so much if they wherent fantastic against control aswell. They littereally have the tech against every archtype in the game which is bonkers.
yeah I agree it wouldn't be an oppressive class to face if it weren't for the insane amount of healing they give the class. meanwhile hunter has like, 1 attack lifesteal minions
That is a good step. But cards like defile and dark pact are way to powerful for their cost aswell.
Another thing could be too have silence remove tags aswell. Meaning that they wont get their silenced dead voidlords back with the DK
If he has lost a significant amount of games in a row the MMR will begin to take players outside of legend rank. Its weird I know.
hm yeah i think i might have had that happen once before a long ass time ago. thats pretty damn far out of legend rank though... all the way down to rank 5 1 stars... yay
he destroyed my shitty cobbled together zoo deck with his cubelock. but at least we got to BM each other for 8 minutes before i died.
I think charge minions in general are pretty dangerous. Leeroy has been on the Hall of Fame watchlist for a while. Team Five developers have talked about the "Boar Test" where they have to playtest cards using the 1/1 charge Boar dood to see if they're busted or not.
I don't know that Doomguard needs to be HoFed. The cost for casting him is quite severe. It's that other cards like Cube allow you to dodge the cost and spawn multiples of the guy. I hope team five moving forward starts applying Rush more liberally to cards in place of Charge. I like Rush a LOT more! This lets them design more interesting cards like Darius, while leaving direct damage effects to spells or battlecries.
I don't know that Doomguard needs to be HoFed. The cost for casting him is quite severe. It's that other cards like Cube allow you to dodge the cost and spawn multiples of the guy. I hope team five moving forward starts applying Rush more liberally to cards in place of Charge. I like Rush a LOT more! This lets them design more interesting cards like Darius, while leaving direct damage effects to spells or battlecries.
Skull of the Man'ari negates all costs, but I guess you can't strike off a card because of what another card negates...........
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