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Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA |OT| Adol Christian and Dana's Big Hole
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Almost like Grim Patron is a disingenuous and shitty troll or something.
Better pray the community can pull some miracles off with this game, cause I have zero faith in NISA at this point.
This isn't really true.
I'm playing the game on a PS4 Pro and it definitely does not seem to be running in 4k on my 4k monitor. My XMB and everything is in 4k, the game is not. I can't pixel count, but honestly I didn't notice any difference from when I was playing it on a 1080p monitor. It might be higher than 1080p, or at least some UI elements might be, but there's no way the game is at 4k.
Also, the game has tons of FPS drops; I would say a lot of the time it's at 60 FPS, but it also drops below a lot of times. Heck, if I open and look at one of the party member's equipment screens:
Ricotta
...the game can't hold 60. You're right that Castaway village lags, but many skills alone will cause FPS drops, and there are many situations with multiple enemies where it can't hold 60.
I'd say it does a good job, but it definitely is not "silky smooth." It's the first Ys game I've played where it just can't maintain a locked 60. I know it's the big thing right now to hate on the PC version, but at least keep the facts straight.
That and a French localization... Which is supposedly not good lol
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We've updated the steam page to include a new announcement regarding Day 1 findings and Known Issues.
And this won't be the last you hear from me. We're going to be following responses and development here very closely.
And this won't be the last you hear from me. We're going to be following responses and development here very closely.
This is the first game NISA has touched that I've cared about since I was like 17, I had no idea it'd gotten this bad
By joystick indput do you mean the 8 direction walking or something else?
Thanks. We're just trying to make sure people can enjoy this incredible game on their platform of choice without major incident.
Also, I was the head of social media at Konami during the Kojima stuff. My skin is titanium at this point.
Very disappointing news—especially considering what it could portend. Hopefully Falcom has some sense and works with competent companies that understand what makes Falcom products special (high quality writing, snappy—if not system-pushing—performance, etc.) from here on out. Falcom fans are not typically the type of people to overlook and forgive such quality issues.
The past games that have been effed up by localizers/porters have basically doomed those games—at least on certain platforms. Imagine having quality translations for the Gagharv games on PSP (or at all for that matter), or a PSP port of Ys VI that is as good as Falcom's own Oath in Felgana PSP port performance-wise.
Thankfully, performance patches are now a possibility, so maybe this version of Ys VIII can ultimately rise up off the B team, but that shouldn't be what we have to resort to hoping for.
The past games that have been effed up by localizers/porters have basically doomed those games—at least on certain platforms. Imagine having quality translations for the Gagharv games on PSP (or at all for that matter), or a PSP port of Ys VI that is as good as Falcom's own Oath in Felgana PSP port performance-wise.
Thankfully, performance patches are now a possibility, so maybe this version of Ys VIII can ultimately rise up off the B team, but that shouldn't be what we have to resort to hoping for.
Guess I'll go ahead and ask but why was this released at full price after the delay and now with all these problems?
I think they were worse during the early PS3 era. They are infamous for really screwing up games. Even console games, adding crashes that weren't present in the japanese version.
So I guess this is return to form. But why did it have to be this game? Why not screw up Tokyo Tatoo Girls or some other shit game nobody cared about?
So I guess this is return to form. But why did it have to be this game? Why not screw up Tokyo Tatoo Girls or some other shit game nobody cared about?
I just really can't be surprised by any of this. NISA's initial handling showed you everything you needed to know. They undercut XSEED to get this game and it shows. I can't put my faith in anything they produce to be up to the usual level that XSEED produces ever again. I'm even going to be wondering if their usual titles like Disgaea will be clusterfucks or if this is reserved for Falcom stuff.
I know Falcom supposedly doesn't care about their Western fans, but I would hope their care about their own products being made to look like trash.
I know Falcom supposedly doesn't care about their Western fans, but I would hope their care about their own products being made to look like trash.
I don't see what the price has anything to do with it. A product doesn't get cheaper because it is delayed. The question is why they are unable to just get a proper PC port out without major issues even after a long delay. Or, an even better question would be why the game wasn't delayed further, when I know for a fact that testers already knew about a bunch of these problems weeks ago and still encountered them this week. Why release a turd product and embarrass yourself further?
I'm looking forward to the progress. I'd also love to hear all of the juicy details about what happened with this game and why it was released like it was, but that's probably best saved for after things are fixed and the dust settles.
I'm a bit unnerved that they would put out a statement at this stage, with all these delays, with all the volunteer beta testers they had from the start, and they have the audacity to say
Are they honestly expecting people to shell out $60 for a game that's 8 months late and this broken on arrival, and now widely panned, to help test and debug it for them? How about, you do your job instead, and get it right the first time.
No, they can't. They never have. We're way past the point of what by common standards is widely accepted as a pattern.
"With your help, we will address issues with the title, starting with critical fixes first such as client crashes, and proceeding from there. We would like to apologize for issues encountered, and reconfirm our commitment to fixing these issues in upcoming patches."
Bahahaha, spend 60 dollars to help us help you play the game without crashing every 30 minutes. Never mind the delay and continued betas.
Bahahaha, spend 60 dollars to help us help you play the game without crashing every 30 minutes. Never mind the delay and continued betas.
Why, I wonder, are the issues that Durante already fixed months ago still in game? Did they not use some of his work?
Really disheartening to hear he quality of the PC port. I had a ton of fun platinuming this game. I thought about going back on the PC release but I'll stay clear or it.
What a mess how every thing was handled. Hopefully it'll show Falcom to prioritize Xseed. Their game deserves a better treatment.
What a mess how every thing was handled. Hopefully it'll show Falcom to prioritize Xseed. Their game deserves a better treatment.
To being fair to Falcom, they probably didn't know much about NISA reputation in the west because even theirs bad track record isn't that well known unless someone brought up about it. They are just as trustworthy as Xseed to Falcom when bidding for Ys VIII happened, not to mention NIS president personal connection to Kondo. With all of that in mind and the (now broken) promises of localization deal, Falcom gave the right to NISA on an understandable ground. At this point of writing I wouldn't accuse Falcom for not caring about their overseas fans just because they happened to wrongly chose NISA for Ys VIII. Considering that Kondo gave interview to western news outlet quite often in comparison to niche developers of similar size, at the very least he's aware of us.
With all of that said, if you (also me) are afraid of Falcom giving localization right to NIS(A) just because of Kondo, starting sending out email is probably the best option to prevent that from happening.
With all of that said, if you (also me) are afraid of Falcom giving localization right to NIS(A) just because of Kondo, starting sending out email is probably the best option to prevent that from happening.
That is his/her job. Literally what they are paid to do.
No offense, but the money would have been better spent on doing a competent job of actually porting the game, rather than on doing damage control.
Well this puts my reservation of Ys VIII for switch into question. I'm hearing rumors the videos for that version has been footage of the PS4/Vita version and not the actual Switch version. Are we in WWE 2017 Switch levels of bad here?
This really sucks because I've never played an Ys game and wanted to try this one out. Maybe I should hold off?
EDIT: Mispelled Ys
This really sucks because I've never played an Ys game and wanted to try this one out. Maybe I should hold off?
EDIT: Mispelled Ys
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First off, it's Ys. No apostrophe.
The underlying game is wonderful, and you should definitely play it one way or another. We still don't really know how the Switch version is going to run, or even whether it will be 30 or 60 fps.
All I can say for sure is that the PS4 version is excellent if that's an option for you.
As if PR staff have any control over those decisions. They are just left with the fall out
This. The PS4 version is really good. It was good even before the localization issues, better afterward. This PC port is crap. I uninstalled the game and they even provided me a copy for review. This port is crap and I feel bad for everyone who waited this long for this turd. I don't have any faith in this being fixed and playable anytime soon. And even if it is, would anyone care?
Damn, that's rough.
It would be nice if NISA can release a statement on what happened here down the line. Previous builds in the beta had a more positive reception than the launch version.
Falcom doesn't give a shit about what their overseas fans want. They only care that the fans exist and are buying their games regardless of publisher. It will be clear soon enough, but all Falcom really cares about is who can pay them the highest licensing fee for their titles, regardless of prior partnerships, established localization standards, or whatever. Of course Falcom is aware that overseas fans exist, they know because that's why other companies are willing to bid more for their licenses. Because the fans exist. But that's all Falcom cares about, overseas fans are a means to make companies fight over license fees. Money money money money money.
Of course, but acting like this individual is doing this out of personal kindness/integrity, or that NISA is doing some good deed by sending a mouthpiece to smooth things over is ridiculous.