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Hearthstone |OT1| New Era, Same Meta
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Ground down a cubelock with elemental mage. Lol screw off!
He kept going face when I had a board full of jaina elementals.
He kept going face when I had a board full of jaina elementals.
I've actually been winning a good amount of games today with this list. I messed around with a couple Shudderwock builds and did some tweaking myself all to paltry results. You really can't go below 2 Lightning Storm and 2 Volcanoes, which a lot of builds did to include more draw. Had to struggle for most of these wins OTOH and pretty sure I only used the whole combo once. The upside to the odd and aggro decks and summoner lists is that if you can control the board for a single turn you can get shudderwock down and he makes 1-2 copies of himself and they can't remove it.
Highlight was Hagatha giving me windfury the +2/+2, +3 attack and an earthshock to silence his taunt for lethal.
Highlight was Hagatha giving me windfury the +2/+2, +3 attack and an earthshock to silence his taunt for lethal.
You know what really grinds my gears? Getting an odd amount of coins from arena. No point in giving 5 coins out except to drive people like me crazy. So now i have to do arena until it balances back, and if and when that happens every future run is in jeopardy of putting me back in this situation.
Arugal is insanely clunky in elemental mage so far. It is almost like you need it and the draw spell on turn 4 or you won't ever be able to use it until very late game.
I've only gotten good use out of him a few times with Book of Spectres. I might cut him because my hand is usually too full to use him anyway, since so many of my cards replace themselves.
Yeah exactly. There is zero issue so far with card generation. Arugal feels redundant.
The card is quite awful even in a mirror match. It's a dead draw the turn you draw it and it's dead many other turns as well. A small amount of knowledge will help you very little and it's not worth a card slot.
I got a golden one. I'm disappointed in it.
Played against shudder finally, he had crazy amount of draw because I couldn't deal with his draw totems right away through those 3 cost taunt elementals but I had turn two prince and lady in white, when it got to mossy horror and spiteful summoner pulling a 7/14 it didn't even matter that he cleared my board once, never saw the shudder.
Running control Warrior and get matched up with the only Priest in Hearthstone that's running Archbishop.
I hate this game sometimes.
I hate this game sometimes.
The Shudderwock deck as it is right now isn't very good tbh.
People are trying out Witching Hour with Charged Devilsaurs now. I rated Witching Hour low but thought the only way it would really see play was if you could combine it with something dumb like Devilsaur to get a Cubelock like combo going. The problem with that is that is there's no easy way to cheat the Devilsaurs out in that deck like you can with the Doomguards in Cubelock.
People are trying out Witching Hour with Charged Devilsaurs now. I rated Witching Hour low but thought the only way it would really see play was if you could combine it with something dumb like Devilsaur to get a Cubelock like combo going. The problem with that is that is there's no easy way to cheat the Devilsaurs out in that deck like you can with the Doomguards in Cubelock.
Having 3 Blackhowl Gunspires is pretty fucking insane. I'm wondering if I can make this consistent.
I almost feel like those are easy to make because every video like that from multiple different creators have all been extremely hilarious.
Happens once a year after rotation
There's a reason why people love ungoro and old gods as the best sets.
It's less about the set and really that it was a new rotation.
Rotations shouldn't happen once a year. The latest set should kick out the oldest set. That would make every expac feel fresh.
Yep. It would lower the highs of the yearly rotation because losing a ton of cards at once is awesome but it would really raise the lows of every other xpack.
Dean Ayala:
"Thanks for re-posting this.
As with all early meta-games, we're closely monitoring all the perception and data trends. If something becomes an issue we'll figure out how to address it. Otherwise, things have been going well. There is a good amount of class representation and deck popularity feels like it's still shifting pretty rapidly."
https://us.battle.net/forums/en/hearthstone/topic/20762097243#post-5
I don't see them nerfing Shudderwock honestly. They'll probably fix the animation issue but other than that I don't see it. The OTK version isn't a good deck.
Edit: Granted the deck is completely unfun to play against and makes most slow decks almost irrelevant but Freeze Mage was the same way and look how long they let that run wild.
Edit: Granted the deck is completely unfun to play against and makes most slow decks almost irrelevant but Freeze Mage was the same way and look how long they let that run wild.
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Shudderwock doesn't need a Nerf right now it needs to be fixed. Nobody reasonable wants it nerfed yet. The deck is terrible.
Made some tweaks to Capilano's Corpsetaker Shaman deck. Cut the Thalnos and one Argent Squire for two Cobalt Scalebanes. Only played three games with it but all three were wins. Feels a little bit better I think as I found I was running out of threats too quickly. Thalnos seemed underwhelming with just a single Lightning Storm in the deck and two Argent Squires felt like overkill when there's already two Fire Flies and two Glacial Shards in the deck. Granted it's mostly there for the Divine Shield proc on Corpsetaker so if I run into issues activating it maybe I can fit in a Argent Commander or something.
I already miss Raza. Hate it all you want: Raza-Shadowreaper was fun.
messin around with giant rogue, 6-2 so far
### BIG ROGUE
# Class: Rogue
# Format: Wild
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# 1x (0) Backstab
# 2x (0) Counterfeit Coin
# 1x (0) Shadowstep
# 2x (2) Cheat Death
# 2x (2) Sap
# 2x (3) Coldlight Oracle
# 2x (3) Fan of Knives
# 2x (3) Mimic Pod
# 2x (3) Tanglefur Mystic
# 2x (4) Elven Minstrel
# 2x (5) Naga Sea Witch
# 2x (10) Sea Giant
# 2x (12) Arcane Giant
# 2x (12) Clockwork Giant
# 2x (12) Mountain Giant
# 2x (20) Molten Giant
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
tanglefur is kinda just to give them a big hand for clockworks as well as coldlight, idk if that's a good strategy or not yet. but minstrel and minic pod and sap help a lot for giant decks. not sure what else is exploitable specifically in rogue..
### BIG ROGUE
# Class: Rogue
# Format: Wild
#
# 1x (0) Backstab
# 2x (0) Counterfeit Coin
# 1x (0) Shadowstep
# 2x (2) Cheat Death
# 2x (2) Sap
# 2x (3) Coldlight Oracle
# 2x (3) Fan of Knives
# 2x (3) Mimic Pod
# 2x (3) Tanglefur Mystic
# 2x (4) Elven Minstrel
# 2x (5) Naga Sea Witch
# 2x (10) Sea Giant
# 2x (12) Arcane Giant
# 2x (12) Clockwork Giant
# 2x (12) Mountain Giant
# 2x (20) Molten Giant
#
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
tanglefur is kinda just to give them a big hand for clockworks as well as coldlight, idk if that's a good strategy or not yet. but minstrel and minic pod and sap help a lot for giant decks. not sure what else is exploitable specifically in rogue..
As far as I remember people always go for the top winrate decks at the start of every meta. Pirate Warrior, Quest Rogue, Jade Druid, etc.
I suspect that's where we'll end up when everything settles, with various forms of Paladin and Cubelock at the top. How long that will last though, who knows.
I'm 100% confident that Warlock will be seeing a nerf before too long. Blizzard is doing their "wait and see" thing with the rotation and the fact that Cubelock is still standing tell after everything tells me its days are numbered, at least for it's current form.
I was much more bored by the last expansion and cubelock. What a boring deck.
I'm seeing all sorts of shit *shrug*
Hunter, Warlock, Druid, Paladin, Priest, Rogue, and Warrior.
Only class I'm not seeing much of is Mage. And there were a lot of Shamans, but now they aren't as frequent.
What do you think they'll nerf? The only thing I could see would be maybe Lackey
So did Blizzard just take out the highrolling aspect of Spiteful summoner? Like the worst minion you can get is a 7/14.
This entire start of the new year has been horrible compared to the first days of Un Goro.
This entire start of the new year has been horrible compared to the first days of Un Goro.
Honestly I have no idea. There are so many routes they could take. I know Dark Pact has been drawing a lot of ire recently but just nerfing that probably wouldn't make a whole lot of difference.
Between Dark Pact, Spellstone, Cube, Doomguard, Lackey and Bloodreaver there's a pretty good amount of targets.
lol, 9 out of my last 11 games have been against paladin, haven't dropped one yet.
Edit: This might be my first loss, no squire, no protector, no light's justice, no firefly in my mulligna.
Edit2: Nevermind, dude thought face was the place. didn't respect the board.
Edit: This might be my first loss, no squire, no protector, no light's justice, no firefly in my mulligna.
Edit2: Nevermind, dude thought face was the place. didn't respect the board.
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True but it feels much less oppressive with more counter-decks.
I have to get used to Ironbeak Owl, it comes down one turn earlier than Spellbreaker and I have just lost a 10/10 Van Cleef because of it.
Lifedrinker in Tempo Rogue seems to be quite good, that bit of heal is nice against other aggro decks and in combination with Shadowstep you can deal good damage that ignores taunts.
Lifedrinker in Tempo Rogue seems to be quite good, that bit of heal is nice against other aggro decks and in combination with Shadowstep you can deal good damage that ignores taunts.
This just proves Blizzard doesn't care about balance or fun. For months, if not years, players have been telling them that the worst aspect of Hearthstone are decks that are fun to play but terrible to play against.
Jabberwock is literally the perfect example of that. You can't play against it nor stop the end result. All it is is your opponent playing a specific set of battlecry minions, then the big guy himself. You either kill them before turn nine or you lose, which is easier said than done when they have all those ways to stall.
So my Toki Mage deck that worked yesterday is getting its shit kicked in today. Going to do a Hunter deck... the one card to build around?
i don't think squashling is worth running, matriarch feels like it's just a little bit too late.
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