Fans of Spectre (007): Why do you like it?

The cinematography, composition and bold colors make it a feast to the eye. Plus some entertaining sequences.

I don't even remember it past the Mexico opening. Oh right Waltz turns out to be a classic Bond villain, iirc. Yeah I got not much praise for it or Skyfall outside the cinematography.

People like Spectre?

The last third kills it but the introductory scene in Mexico is really well done

It's a great cap to the Daniel Craig arc of Bond films. It's well shot, it manages to be tense and uncomfortable at points, which is rare in Bond, it has Christoph Waltz munching his way through the scenery...

I loved it when I saw it at the cinema, and certainly put it as one of the better Bond films. My only minor gripe was that it would have been a perfect point for Daniel Craig to bow out on but now he's doing more. I do wonder if they'll "Tracy" Lea Seydoux in the next one...

I quite enjoy the film until the final third where the whole thing just falls apart spectacularly. Yeah the film has its moments of sheer stupidity before that even, but it's a Bond film so I can easily over look those.
One thing that really ticked me off though, why the hell is Bond a super hero again? You don't fly through all those walls in the train and end up without a single scratch.

I still hold casino royale as the goat bond film. The rest of the Craig movies have been meh to good enough. Spectre wasted waltz imo.

I love the cinematography and a lot of the subtler moments. Like him threatening the mouse at gunpoint and how his apartment was still not unpacked. I enjoyed the character moments with Moneypenny and Q's jokes (which only he laughed at). On the whole, there are really great parts but the movie is less than the sum of them due to some bad parts present.

Spectre and Skyfall were both directed by Sam Mendes. Why are they both such different films in terms of quality? Spectre is stale compared to Skyfall.

In fairness, Martin Campbell also directed Goldeneye and Casino Royale. Both are very different films.

I had fun watching it. The cinematography is great and also the casting, even if the story is bad, seeing Craig vs Batista and Waltz was great.

Great action scenes, the LFE is terrific especially in the first scene. Is this the one with the fight in that tall glass building? If so that whole sequence was awesome. Basically anything actiony like this with great sound design is a 10 for me.

There's nothing better than that scene where Bond is walking through the building and a multinational criminal organization just sloppily taped up some headshots of various villians from the past few films around the place. Possibly the silliest thing I've seen on film, and I've seen some silly ass films.
Like, they're just taped up there like a child's drawing on a 1st graders classroom bulletin board.

I dunno, I really liked it at the time of viewing. Mostly because while Skyfall had some great setpieces it really kinda dwelled in a bunch of nihilism-for-no-reason, like the former sex-slave who just gets kinda shot. That pointless fridging felt kind of over-the-top, especially for a movie about trying to protect someone for no reason other than that they're worth protecting to you, even if the relationship you have is complicated and fucked up.

Spectre treats itself like an antidote to that, in the sense that it tries for no deep theme or dark scenes that are overwhelmingly harsh in the same way. Instead, it just has a bunch more big dumb adventure and melodrama. I've always been at least a little bit of a fan of campy bond as opposed to gritty bond, since I've liked James Bond since I was a little kid. A lot of the more mature themes flew straight over my head and since I was a kid during the Pierce Brosnan age what you're left with is a suave adventurous wise-cracking spy fight man as my foundational vision of Bond. From there out I actually branched out and got deep into Bonds but my favorite Bond movies have always been unconventional picks. OHMSS is one of my faves, for example. But every now and then I just like that campy dumb bullshit, yunno? Same reason I like Never Say Never Again.

it was a fun but disappointing watch for me

it was almost as if they unlearned everything they learned after Skyfall

some of the character moments were fine, and the action cinematography was good, but it sagged just about everywhere else imo

My favourite part is quite a powerful moment for me because it came shortly after my cat died. It's the bit when the little boy finally returns the stolen bone to the grave and Spectre turns up. You think he's going to suck the boy's soul, but instead... ah, man... I blubbed like a little girl when that tear rolled down Spectre's cheek and he waved goodbye. The special effects and music when he ascends to heaven? Man, they were on fucking point.

Best film of 2010, easily.

Brau said:

The cinematography, composition and bold colors make it a feast to the eye. Plus some entertaining sequences.

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You mean bold colors like beige, yellow, and yellowy beige?

Directed by Fulci said:

The last third kills it but the introductory scene in Mexico is really well done

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No it isn't. The tracking shot is boring as fuck and the helicopter sequence is probably one of the most plodding things I've seen in a movie.

It starts amazingly, but unfortunately gets worse and worse as it goes.

Still, it was nice to get a bit of globetrotting adventures in my Bond again.

Specter has fans? I couldn't last more than 20m in on a flight. Felt like the whole of the internet had worse to say about the rest I didn't see at the time.

CloudWolf said:

People like Spectre?

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I refuse to believe it.

Brau said:

The cinematography, composition and bold colors make it a feast to the eye. Plus some entertaining sequences.

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This. I'm guilty as charged. I liked it when I saw it in theaters. LOVED the train sequence.

I do need to revisit it though. Haven't seen it in two and a half years.

To be honest, I liked the film despite its bad, boring and nonsensical moments. (The car chase in Rome was meh, if the scene before was brilliant)
It has some brilliant scenes, good character development, a brillian henchman in Dave Bautista, Lea Seidoux was excellent, and so were the scenes in the hotel in Morocco, and in the train.
It kinda falls apart after that, unfortunately.

Edit: the colour grading was horrendous ht times. Bland as hell, fucked up white points, why the fuck is Mexico City yellow and devoid of contrast, etc.
Skyfall and Casino Royale had it right for fuck's sake.

Huge step-down from skyfall

Top 5 worst Bond movies. Fucking horrible.

I just kinda found the movie boring after a certain point. I love the opening scene though.

I thought the first 15-20 min were fantastic, but then the movie starts trying to boycott itself over and over till it looks like a Bond parody.

Yossarian said:

My favourite part is quite a powerful moment for me because it came shortly after my cat died. It's the bit when the little boy finally returns the stolen bone to the grave and Spectre turns up. You think he's going to suck the boy's soul, but instead... ah, man... I blubbed like a little girl when that tear rolled down Spectre's cheek and he waved goodbye. The special effects and music when he ascends to heaven? Man, they were on fucking point.

Best film of 2010, easily.

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lol which film is that?

I didn't hate it but it didn't grow on me like Skyfall did. I came to absolutely love Skyfall on repeated watches but Spectre, not so much. Something was missing. I still put it above Quantum when talking about the Craig films, though.

It was unique visually in that it really nailed the monochrome look. The Performances were great. It had some good action Scenes. So far similar to other Bonds.

But the story took some chances. The brother/family angle, the surveilance and data harvesting critique, how MI5 was almost dismantled. I liked it. Not my favorite Bond though.

Messofanego said:

lol which film is that?

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Terminator 2.

because its fun.
The opening Mexico scene is fantastic

I absolutely loved the fight sequences/chases in the movie even if the overall story was kinda boring to me.

I marathoned all the Bond films a few months ago and Spectre is truly one of the worst, but there are a few things I like about it:
-the train fight is legit good.
-I loved M's line "now we know what C stands for" (until he ruined his own joke)
-I liked the stuff at Mr. Whites spooky winter hideout.

I've seen it but I don't remember a single thing about it. On further thought though I don't remember a single thing from any of the Craig Bond movies really. No wait Casino Royale had the torture scene with the rope and there was a card game scene and drowning whatsherface scene. Either I suck or Spectre was extra forgettable.

Spectre needed to be cut down in some areas and expanded in others. Especially the subplot with Moriarty setting up his own private intelligence agency, which really wasn't needed at all. And maybe fewer but more elaborate action scenes would have been better; aside from the opening scene and the fantastic Batista fight, nothing seems very inventive or exciting, especially near the end where he just blows up his watch and strolls out of the front door of Blofeld's lair, and right at the end just fires his pistol into the air to bring down Blofeld's escaping helicopter. Plus, with hindsight, now we know Waltz won't be reprising his role, the ending is really flat.

I still like it more than Skyfall, which aside from the sexy cinematography, didn't have much going for it in my eyes.

The best part of Spectre was the opening long shot of Bond walking through the crowd and taking out a bad guy. It was a letdown after that.

Yossarian said:

Terminator 2.

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Not The Knowing? :P

I loved that people thought it was a Home Alone remake.

The one moment I knew this movie wasn't going to turn out well was the minute I started hearing "Writing's On the Wall". Not even the montage made much sense.

But yeah, at least the Mexico scene was well done.

SuperNintendoChalmers said:

Spectre and Skyfall were both directed by Sam Mendes. Why are they both such different films in terms of quality? Spectre is stale compared to Skyfall.

In fairness, Martin Campbell also directed Goldeneye and Casino Royale. Both are very different films.

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Guy probably blew his load on Skyfall and all the B-material ran into Spectre.

I think Spectres the weakest of the Daniel Craig Bond films personally. Skyfall is my favourite.

I didn't eve know this one was well liked. Skyfall was def better. Also the Bond scene with Monica Belluci is so fucking weird I knew at that point that the movie jsut wasn't gonna be great.

Its a fun movie, even if the love interest is bad. The action scenes are great and a huge improvement over Skyfall. I liked the return of the henchman, secret base, and over-the-top villain.

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I loved that people thought it was a Home Alone remake.

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Are you sure you're not thinking of Skyfall?

Didn't like it. The movie just felt off, like both Craig and Mendes were working with guns pointed at their heads.

The Man From UNCLE is the only Bond film not named Casino Royale.

Helicopter in Mexico is the Neeson climbing over a fence.

It's one of the worst bond films, it's better than MWTGG and MR, but that's about it. It's just boring.

I liked it because it wasn't as big of a letdown as QoS.



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Opening scene and the train fight were brilliant. The rest? Borderline slog.

And Blofeld was such a missed opportunity, it's almost criminal. ESPECIALLY the "HE LOVED YOU MORE THAN MEEEEEEEEEE" angle, which is pathetic.