Two things. You can't come into someone's room with out knocking.
I'm really curious as to where this was gonna go if Jonah hadn't walked in.
I'm really curious as to where this was gonna go if Jonah hadn't walked in.
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Can we take the time to appreciate Raimi Memes?
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But there was never a time he wouldn't bleed if he got punched.
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Noticed that he was at Harry's funeral at the end of 3. That was a nice touch. Have no clue why Gwen was there tho.
I truly think I would trade the entire MCU for a Spider-man 4 film with Raimi.
Too bad that ship has sailed.
Too bad that ship has sailed.
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Can we please make Willem Dafoe the mascot of Era?
Wow I was iffy on the need for a slogan, but this one is niiice. Lol
It's better and worse than you remember.
Now that the hype is gone and we don't take it as seriously, there's a lot to enjoy and there are some really great touches I didn't notice, surrounded by a lot of hilarious crap.
I really enjoy this fight. So much head trauma for Harry. If Venom didn't do it CTE would have.
But then you also have whatever the fuck this was.
Pretty sure Spider-Man 3 is far more on Sony than Raimi. Sometime after the first movie, the dude said he didn't like the Venom storyline from the comics and wanted to do Sandman, because that was his favorite villain back when he read Silver Age and Bronze Age comics as a kid. His whole trilogy reflects those eras. He makes two well-received Spidey movies and has enough trust and clout to actually make a film with Sandman as the villain, but Sony knew that Venom would sell a lot more tickets than Sandman. Raimi was finally going to get to use his favorite villain and then he gets sidelined for a plot and character he had no passion for.
Most of this is just speculation, but that's what it looks like to me.
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Fuck me, I love it.
Even before this new Raimi meme craze I'd quote that part to myself all the time.
It's been said many times before, but I love Raimi's films so much because he made the city a character itself. People can gush over how much Homecoming Spidey is closer to "real" Spidey, but his supposed city isn't a character at all. Hell, half the movie doesn't even take place in NY.
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I'll have to watch it again to be sure because it's been a while, I would put Spider-Man 2 in my all-time top 10.
I mean yes, that's the end of 1, but then it made me look up the ending of 2.
Yep, I also love Jenny Nicholson's insight into Raimi's city/world.
"Peter's New York wasn't a friendly place...but it gives you an example of Peter's resilience and strength of character." In Raimi's world people appear to be massive assholes which is supposed to convince you that they aren't worth saving and to be cynical, but Peter doesn't and remains optimistic and good. And, as a result, his optimism is rewarded as we see that these individuals that appear "evil" or "mean" on a surface level are actually good people as well. Ex:
-Jameson is a selfish asshole who always gives Peter a hard time, yet he refuses to tell the Goblin who takes pictures for Spider-Man.
-His landlord is constantly pestering Peter about rent while doing the bare minimum of maintenance. Yet, when Peter yells at him in SM3 he doesn't get angry, he grows concerned because he knows Peter is a good kid.
-Everyone in the city initially turns on Spider-Man, but its the city that fights back with him against the Green Goblin and ordinary train passengers that agree not to reveal his identity.
And lots more examples of course.
Homecoming doesn't really care about Peter's city and so he feels less like "the friendly neighborhood Spider-Man" and more an eventual Avengers member who takes on Global threats.
They've aged like fine wine my man. They got heart and a certain magic to them that future films lack. I love Homecoming but let's not kid ourselves here and say it's better than Spider-Man 2. (Or 1 for that matter)
This post gets it.
Spiderman 2 is AMAZING but this is one of the most underrated/under-appreciated scenes in the whole movie. Absolutely nothing going Peter's way, feeling like he can't get anything right in life or anything that he wants, and then someone offers a sweet and sincerely nice gesture his way and sometimes that's all it takes. What to her was probably a friendly way of flirting with a boy she likes, or maybe a simple friendly gesture for someone whose company she enjoys, meant the absolute world to him at that very moment.
The Raimi movies are my favorite super hero movies by far, I won't call them the best. Just my favorites.
Yeah I revisited the original two films recently for the first time in years and that moment in particular had me grinning from ear to ear. It's the kind of shit that stays with me for a very long time.
I'd be hard-pressed to recall a similarly subtle, highly effective moment from any of the MCU films. They just don't boast the heart and soul that the first two Raimi films have.
Your lack of memes knowledge saddens me.
Is there a version of this that is funny?
Both your post and that video really show how much Raimi cared about the details in those movies. To the point where even the city and its inhabitants get their moments.
I think the key reason Spider-Man 2 (and 1 to a slightly lesser extent) are my favorite superhero movies is because they have such a strong heart to them that no other films in the genre have, besides maybe the first Superman movie, but that movie has aged a lot over the decade while Spider-Man 1 & 2 can still connect with me.
To the people who think Evil Dead is Raimi's best work:
"When someone asks how I feel about Marc Webb":
"When someone asks how I feel about Marc Webb":
I am just so glad that we are, for the most part, past the "it aged poorly/it was always bad" revisionist rigamarole that afflicted the Raimi movies, not unlike pretty much anything that was once popular but, after going silent, then inevitably undergoes caustic postmortems. I can trace it directly back to the release of the first TASM movie with the sentiment quieting down significantly after the downfall of that series and announcement of Homecoming.
I prefer Homecoming, but people going back to shit on the first two Raimi movies strikes me as revisionism for the sake of hating on what was once popular.
Movie 3 is utter trash though, but not because of the Emo Peter stuff. If anything that's the best part of the movie.
Movie 3 is utter trash though, but not because of the Emo Peter stuff. If anything that's the best part of the movie.
Oh god! I don't remember when I last laughed so hard.
This is amazing, too.
I agree 100%, but I don't think the Raimi films were better in that they lacked a lot of good stuff about Homecoming. If we could have an average between the two it would be perfect, but MCU films just don't have those emotional beats that the Raimi films had so I doubt it (I don't recall anything close to Raimi films in that sense in the MCU, and I've seen all of it sans Thor 2: The Dark World).
