Fitness |OT| A New Era Begins

KillerBEA · Apr 5, 2018

Oliver James said:
Mdsfx I think I haven't said this before but my goal with regards to activity is to achieve what's yours like: running, cycling, swimming, the works.

Zefah that's enough, I think, it worked for me. I guess it depends on what your goals are and how fast you want to get there.

KillerBEA 2 hours for lower body, good grief. And people hate leg day. I haven't tried splits, I've always went for full body. Maybe now is the time to shake things up. Regarding rest, I rest 15 seconds per set, and then 2 minutes tops per routine, so I manage to cram a lot of stuff in an hour.

Yeah, I guess you're right about the food, I've been eating quite a lot these days when with other folks. I'll try to tone it down, thanks!

I love training legs, I took to it right away when I first started training. I legitimately enjoy Squatting, and Deadlifting and most other forms of leg training. Most of the time I have to force myself to hold back on the volume. Only thing you won't catch me having fun doing is Extensions, and Leg Curls.

Mr. X · Apr 5, 2018

Got to the gym today, was feeling pretty fatigued from DL the night before but thought I'd tough it out. Tried OH Press and was struggling to do weight I hit before. Decided to stop and going to give it a better shot tomorrow after work.

Weegian · Apr 6, 2018

Realized yesterday that I have been 20 lbs short on my squat BBB sets. I am in pain today.

Buran · Apr 6, 2018

Oliver James said:
How many days do you folks spend in the gym in a week? Do you do splits?

Plus some row sessions here and there...

Spiritreaver · Apr 6, 2018

Wally_Wall said:
Lift everyday. Rest if something comes up or I feel I need it.

I always have one rest day every week. You can't take that away from me!

I'm not a Kryptonian though.

Dinjooh · Apr 6, 2018

Been running a SL routine for 4 months by now and planning to change it up after some weeks in Thailand.

Can't really decide if PPL or Upper, lower is the right call.

plz halp.

lordxar · Apr 6, 2018

For me:
Monday is legs and back
Tuesday is arms and shoulders
Wednesday off
Thursday legs and back again
Friday arms and shoulders again
Saturday and Sunday off

I work from home and have a home gym so I just do my workouts over lunch. I've added some stationary bike at night and whenever it gets nice, will add some heavy bag out in the garage here and there.

Mdsfx · Apr 6, 2018

Oliver James said:
Mdsfx I think I haven't said this before but my goal with regards to activity is to achieve what's yours like: running, cycling, swimming, the works.

Zefah that's enough, I think, it worked for me. I guess it depends on what your goals are and how fast you want to get there.

KillerBEA 2 hours for lower body, good grief. And people hate leg day. I haven't tried splits, I've always went for full body. Maybe now is the time to shake things up. Regarding rest, I rest 15 seconds per set, and then 2 minutes tops per routine, so I manage to cram a lot of stuff in an hour.

Yeah, I guess you're right about the food, I've been eating quite a lot these days when with other folks. I'll try to tone it down, thanks!

Honestly, I don't do that much. I have variety, but I don't spend more than 80 minutes in the gym. Usually 30 minutes lifting then 30-50 minutes doing cardio. The only exception to that is my long run on Sundays.

Even though I'm still racing, I've dialed things down in terms of training this year to stay focused on spending time with my family. Gonna be little slower this time around ;)

Tuorom · Apr 6, 2018

Came back from 3 month vacation. Can still do 275 squat, 315 sumo dead, raised my OHP to 135 for 2!

I did too much now I'm sore as fuck haha. It's good to be back.

Deleted member 11069 · Apr 6, 2018

Fitness friends, Am I the asshole or is everybody else?

- Working out in a Squat Rack (doing bench)
- Guy walks up (while I press) and takes one of the two 25ers (from the rack, not the bar)
- I say "HEY!" and inform the person that this is not cool WITHOUT asking first, I might need the 25 coming up
- Person is super puzzled and acts like I asked him to perform fellatio on a giraffe

This pretty much happens every week in this fucking gym. (a tiny ymca) I've been working out a long time and no
other gym has had this problem.
So am I the asshole for not letting folks grab my shit or is this just a current thing and no one cares anymore?

Bumrush · Apr 6, 2018

While it's disheartening that I haven't had much time for fitness so far in 2018 it's also super encouraging that I'm still in pretty good shape. I owe this all to working out much smarter now than I did when I was in my teens / 20s. I want to thank Wally_Wall , Spiritreaver , Mdsfx , fallingedge , Psychotext , SeanR1221 and everyone else for being integral members of this awesome community for 7-8 years and always motivating me to lift, run, etc. You guys REALLY are the MVPs :)

KillerBEA · Apr 6, 2018

supervga said:
Fitness friends, Am I the asshole or is everybody else?

- Working out in a Squat Rack (doing bench)
- Guy walks up (while I press) and takes one of the two 25ers (from the rack, not the bar)
- I say "HEY!" and inform the person that this is not cool WITHOUT asking first, I might need the 25 coming up
- Person is super puzzled and acts like I asked him to perform fellatio on a giraffe

This pretty much happens every week in this fucking gym. (a tiny ymca) I've been working out a long time and no
other gym has had this problem.
So am I the asshole for not letting folks grab my shit or is this just a current thing and no one cares anymore?

If its on a rack it fair game, but its pretty rude to take it off the rack you're using while you are mid lift.

corasaur · Apr 6, 2018

supervga said:
Fitness friends, Am I the asshole or is everybody else?

- Working out in a Squat Rack (doing bench)
- Guy walks up (while I press) and takes one of the two 25ers (from the rack, not the bar)
- I say "HEY!" and inform the person that this is not cool WITHOUT asking first, I might need the 25 coming up
- Person is super puzzled and acts like I asked him to perform fellatio on a giraffe

This pretty much happens every week in this fucking gym. (a tiny ymca) I've been working out a long time and no
other gym has had this problem.
So am I the asshole for not letting folks grab my shit or is this just a current thing and no one cares anymore?

I also lift at a tiny y. there's not really a lot of storage space in ours. some plates' permanent homes are on the storage attached to our squat rack and leg press. there's no visual difference between a plate I plan on squatting in two sets and a plate put away properly awaiting the next user. it's not weird for the other patrons to assume that an item in its storage position is up for grabs. the spare barbells that get used for deadlifts and the various benches don't have their own distinct associated storage racks. there's no expectation that using a station means calling dibs on its collection of plates. might be a similar situation in yours?

at the larger y i sometimes go to, there are more racks and each has its own large supply of plates so there's less of a need to compete for stuff. i think i've only seen those extremes: so many plates it doesn't matter or limited supplies and storage solutions.

edit: oh yeah walking up to the rack mid-set is both rude and dangerous though.

Flow · Apr 6, 2018

supervga said:
Fitness friends, Am I the asshole or is everybody else?

- Working out in a Squat Rack (doing bench)
- Guy walks up (while I press) and takes one of the two 25ers (from the rack, not the bar)
- I say "HEY!" and inform the person that this is not cool WITHOUT asking first, I might need the 25 coming up
- Person is super puzzled and acts like I asked him to perform fellatio on a giraffe

This pretty much happens every week in this fucking gym. (a tiny ymca) I've been working out a long time and no
other gym has had this problem.
So am I the asshole for not letting folks grab my shit or is this just a current thing and no one cares anymore?

If the weight is on the side then it is fair game.

do they not have a dedicated bench? kinda weird to bench in a squat rack area.

I Don't Like · Apr 6, 2018

Why do people put their treadmills on incline then grab onto the handles and lean back as they walk? Never understood this. You might as well not have it on incline.

Deleted member 11069 · Apr 6, 2018

Thanks for the input, I'll keep telling people not to take shit though (the plates are ON the rack, there is no "storage rack").
I just don't get the attitude and I rather think its part of casuals lifters not knowing gym etiquette then normal behavior.

And sadly no, no bench. You gotta bench, squat and curl in the rack. The last part is a joke but also happens. Especially in rush hours.

Wally_Wall · Apr 6, 2018

Bum you're a busy man. Plus you can go once a week and be good shape. #genetics

All weights on the squat rack are fair game. There's no need to wait til someone finishes a set unless you are walking right in front of them.

Tuorom · Apr 6, 2018

supervga said:
Fitness friends, Am I the asshole or is everybody else?

- Working out in a Squat Rack (doing bench)
- Guy walks up (while I press) and takes one of the two 25ers (from the rack, not the bar)
- I say "HEY!" and inform the person that this is not cool WITHOUT asking first, I might need the 25 coming up
- Person is super puzzled and acts like I asked him to perform fellatio on a giraffe

This pretty much happens every week in this fucking gym. (a tiny ymca) I've been working out a long time and no
other gym has had this problem.
So am I the asshole for not letting folks grab my shit or is this just a current thing and no one cares anymore?

It's fair game. Is there such a demand for 25 lbs that you can't get them from anywhere else? If you want to use them later then put them on the ground beside you so it is obvious you are going to use them. No point getting bent out of shape over people wanting to work out.

PlayALLTheGames said:
Why do people put their treadmills on incline then grab onto the handles and lean back as they walk? Never understood this. You might as well not have it on incline.

It's easier. There could be many reasons for it: they don't actually wanna work hard, they just like spending time at the gym, they think it is OK technique....

Deleted member 11069 · Apr 6, 2018

Fuck me, the votes are in favor of fair game.
Maybe all the other gyms I worked out at had more plates and I never noticed.
Duly noted!

VenomousCoffee · Apr 6, 2018

I'm on team Fair Game, but there's a right way to do it. Also depends on how many of those plates there are, 5 vs 45, etc.

HHGaming · Apr 6, 2018

Going to the gym everyday seems useless/waste of time if you are 100% natural like me, you need to give yourself a few rest days if your Goal is to build muscles
No idea why some people even go to the gym to do 3-4 exercises then go home, try to do 7-8 exercises per workout 4-5 days a week with 2-3 Complete rest days EVEN if you split the muscles worked aka push pull legs~

Scientifically
You need to hit each muscle twice a week for optimal growth
You need high weight + high reps for each muscle a week too for optimal progressive overload+mass

Anything wlse will work sure but will never be optimal

A lot of people get shocked when they learn i been in the Gym for less than a year and 100% Natural because my muscles exploded so fast in size while still being skinny somehow (Pure muscles gains not much fat) + never went to the GYM before my whole life so I'm still considered a beginner

If anyone here would like to rate/review my workout and find flaws/fixes or something i don't mind and would actually appreciate it but so far its working out great for me and getting insane gains (I only recently added separate shoulder sets though because i had shoulder issues before i even started)

Day 1 PUSH High Reps
1-Incline Press DB
2-Flat Press DB
3-Cable Fly
4-DB Press
5-Lateral Raise Cable
6-Triceps Cable 2XPushdown+2XOverhead (All 3 Presses already hit the triceps too)
7-2xHanging Legs Raise+2x Cable Crunch

Day 2 PULL High reps
1-Pullup
2-Seated Cable Rows
3-Pulldown
4-Facepull
5-Rear Fly
6-Rackpull
7-2Hammer Curls+2Close grip BB Curl+2Wide grip BB Curl

Day 3 (Light day)
-Doing High reps low weight Squats/Leg Curls/Lunges for 20min
-APT Stretches 5min (Most people actually need those but not aware of it)
-Cardio Sprint 5min

Day 4 PUSH Heavy
1-Incline Press DB
2-Flat Press DB
3-Cable Fly
4-Triceps Cable Extension
5-Triceps cable Pushdown
6-Lateral Raise Cable
7-2X Hanging legs raise +2x Cable Crunch

Day 5 PULL Heavy
1-Pullup (Add weight or lower the rest time between each set)
2-Seated Cable Rows
3-Facepull
4-2XHammer curls 2xWide grip 2xClose grip BB Curls
5-Deep Hack Squat (To active your Glutes/Butt muscles too)
6-Leg Curls
+APT Stretches

DAY 6+7 Complete Rest So you go beast mode starting next week

Went from being pathetic where i can barely bench press 15lb in each hand XD to 75LB in each hand in 9Months (I weight 150LB myself now) and i had 0 experience with lifting before that

Honestly if you go to the gym everyday as natural you will never give it all you got, part of you will be tired/burned out/bored since you lack the energy to try and increase your weekly weight

+ Dunno why some people are obsessed with legs (Starting strength volume is like 60% legs) both strong lifts 5x5 and Starting strength were even removed from reddit fitness as recommended workouts, these workouts will give you massive legs and average upper body+ so many flaws

Mdsfx · Apr 6, 2018

I'll be honest, I didn't expect you to weigh 10 pounds less than me after that wall of text telling people there's only one way to make decent progress.

HHGaming · Apr 6, 2018

Mdsfx said:
I'll be honest, I didn't expect you to weigh 10 pounds less than me after that wall of text telling people there's only one way to make decent progress.

You can do whatever random things in the gym and make "decent" gains as a beginner, the question is was it optimal? Will your body have perfect symmetry? will your new gains will be flawless or with so many weak points? see my biceps and compare it to starting strength guy biceps then you will understand.

fallingedge · Apr 6, 2018

I think the workout is fine although I would go with a dedicated leg day or two as opposed to piggybacking on an existing day. Also throw up some pics, show off the complete package.

Bumrush said:
While it's disheartening that I haven't had much time for fitness so far in 2018 it's also super encouraging that I'm still in pretty good shape. I owe this all to working out much smarter now than I did when I was in my teens / 20s. I want to thank Wally_Wall , Spiritreaver , Mdsfx , fallingedge , Psychotext , SeanR1221 and everyone else for being integral members of this awesome community for 7-8 years and always motivating me to lift, run, etc. You guys REALLY are the MVPs :)

Flattered that you think of me in that way. I'm still a fat boy trying to look good naked. Crazy to see that we have all been all in on this for 7 years or so lol. We definitely need a meet up.

Mdsfx · Apr 6, 2018

Oh wow I missed your comment Bum! I'm certainly grateful for coming across this group. I had so much help on both my squat and deadlift form from you guys. It really kept me motivated having a community to share things with.

HHGaming · Apr 6, 2018

fallingedge said:
I think the workout is fine although I would go with a dedicated leg day or two as opposed to piggybacking on an existing day. Also throw up some pics, show off the complete package.

My third day was dedicated legs day for a while but my butt+Quads became bigger than i liked (Compared to my upper body size) so i changed it (It made my upper body looks small too), my rack pull is also rack pulls below the knee (Deadlift sucks for my body+Higher risk of injury in my case)
Considering that i prefer the small look over the big look my upper body will never be big to the point where my legs will show up as "chicken legs", i mainly train legs for stability + to assist other excises where strong legs is necessary, if someone wants to be a kardashian they can keep squatting 3 times a week :P

My height is 5:10 My Goal is to never go above 175LB in weight regardless of how long i train, even if cutting will make me lose muscles when it happens so i'll never be "big" and I'm fine with that, being natural has its limitation

Chart for 6% body fat for naturals

If someone is +200LB at my height you are either carrying a lot of fat, on gear or 1% genetically gifted.

Wally_Wall · Apr 6, 2018

HHGaming said:
Going to the gym everyday seems useless/waste of time if you are 100% natural like me, you need to give yourself a few rest days if your Goal is to build muscles
No idea why some people even go to the gym to do 3-4 exercises then go home, try to do 7-8 exercises per workout 4-5 days a week with 2-3 Complete rest days EVEN if you split the muscles worked aka push pull legs~

Scientifically
You need to hit each muscle twice a week for optimal growth
You need high weight + high reps for each muscle a week too for optimal progressive overload+mass

Anything wlse will work sure but will never be optimal

A lot of people get shocked when they learn i been in the Gym for less than a year and 100% Natural because my muscles exploded so fast in size while still being skinny somehow (Pure muscles gains not much fat) + never went to the GYM before my whole life so I'm still considered a beginner

If anyone here would like to rate/review my workout and find flaws/fixes or something i don't mind and would actually appreciate it but so far its working out great for me and getting insane gains (I only recently added separate shoulder sets though because i had shoulder issues before i even started)

Day 1 PUSH High Reps
1-Incline Press DB
2-Flat Press DB
3-Cable Fly
4-DB Press
5-Lateral Raise Cable
6-Triceps Cable 2XPushdown+2XOverhead (All 3 Presses already hit the triceps too)
7-2xHanging Legs Raise+2x Cable Crunch

Day 2 PULL High reps
1-Pullup
2-Seated Cable Rows
3-Pulldown
4-Facepull
5-Rear Fly
6-Rackpull
7-2Hammer Curls+2Close grip BB Curl+2Wide grip BB Curl

Day 3 (Light day)
-Doing High reps low weight Squats/Leg Curls/Lunges for 20min
-APT Stretches 5min (Most people actually need those but not aware of it)
-Cardio Sprint 5min

Day 4 PUSH Heavy
1-Incline Press DB
2-Flat Press DB
3-Cable Fly
4-Triceps Cable Extension
5-Triceps cable Pushdown
6-Lateral Raise Cable
7-2X Hanging legs raise +2x Cable Crunch

Day 5 PULL Heavy
1-Pullup (Add weight or lower the rest time between each set)
2-Seated Cable Rows
3-Facepull
4-2XHammer curls 2xWide grip 2xClose grip BB Curls
5-Deep Hack Squat (To active your Glutes/Butt muscles too)
6-Leg Curls
+APT Stretches

DAY 6+7 Complete Rest So you go beast mode starting next week

Went from being pathetic where i can barely bench press 15lb in each hand XD to 75LB in each hand in 9Months (I weight 150LB myself now) and i had 0 experience with lifting before that

Honestly if you go to the gym everyday as natural you will never give it all you got, part of you will be tired/burned out/bored since you lack the energy to try and increase your weekly weight

+ Dunno why some people are obsessed with legs (Starting strength volume is like 60% legs) both strong lifts 5x5 and Starting strength were even removed from reddit fitness as recommended workouts, these workouts will give you massive legs and average upper body+ so many flaws

Yeah, alright man. I'll just say going to the gym nearly everyday works for me. Many days I do 4 exercises and if we're using biceps as an indicator I'd say I'm doing just fine. There are many ways to get results but I will admit I'm not trying to put on size. My body is pretty much at its' natural limit for the body weight I choose to stay at.

VenomousCoffee · Apr 6, 2018

HHGaming said:
You can do whatever random things in the gym and make "decent" gains as a beginner, the question is was it optimal? Will your body have perfect symmetry? will your new gains will be flawless or with so many weak points? see my biceps and compare it to starting strength guy biceps then you will understand.

If you're talking about comparing biceps to measure progress .... trying to be polite as I can about this......you need to go educate yourself and put in some more years before you come in here and try to throw your weight around.

Terrible pun, I apologize.

Wally_Wall · Apr 6, 2018

VenomousCoffee said:
If you're talking about comparing biceps to measure progress .... trying to be polite as I can about this......you need to go educate yourself and put in some more years before you come in here and try to throw your weight around.

Terrible pun, I apologize.

You repping out 550+ DLs is impressive and all Coffee but what do your biceps look like?

VenomousCoffee · Apr 6, 2018

Wally_Wall said:
You repping out 550+ DLs is impressive and all Coffee but what do your biceps look like?

Like my nuts, all shriveled and useless.

HHGaming · Apr 6, 2018

VenomousCoffee said:
If you're talking about comparing biceps to measure progress .... trying to be polite as I can about this......you need to go educate yourself and put in some more years before you come in here and try to throw your weight around.

Terrible pun, I apologize.

I'm not comparing size, i stated I'm a beginner + light weighted clearly so i have no idea why people are pointing out the obvious.

Is this how people post to someone asking for review/fixes/advice?

One post pointing how "small" is my body and the other saying don't throw your weight around and educate yourself for years before you open your mouth basically, great !

I simply answered a question about beginners like me from what i notice, i don't care if you trained 10 years and got biceps or whatever, my point was pointing out that a beginner who does starting strength only usually got flaws like how they lack good biceps among many other things (like how its focused at the lower body)

Wally_Wall said:
Yeah, alright man. I'll just say going to the gym nearly everyday works for me. Many days I do 4 exercises and if we're using biceps as an indicator I'd say I'm doing just fine. There are many ways to get results but I will admit I'm not trying to put on size. My body is pretty uch at its' natural limit for the body weight I choose to stay at.

I was talking about being a beginner and i even stated in my post that in fact I'm still considered as a beginner (Less than a year in the gym)
My point was whats the optimal thing for a beginner who wants to build mass. there are simply way too many posts online for people who didn't like there body "looks" after a year doing starting strength even though they did get stronger, and you can get the same results within a year without flaws or 18 months with flaws what do you think is more optimal?

If you have been going to the gym for a while and have no plans to put on size heck you can even get away training 3 days a week doing few exercises to "maintain" your build like what my friend does let alone going everyday, for a beginner its another story.

VenomousCoffee · Apr 6, 2018

HHGaming said:
I'm not comparing size, i stated I'm a beginner + light weighted clearly so i have no idea why people are pointing out the obvious.

Is this how people post to someone asking for review/fixes/advice?

One post pointing how "small" is my body and the other saying don't throw your weight around and educate yourself for years before you open your mouth basically, great !

I simply answered a question about beginners like me from what i notice, i don't care if you trained 10 years and got biceps or whatever, my point was pointing out that a beginner who does starting strength only usually got flaws like how they lack good biceps among many other things (like how its focused at the lower body)

I was talking about being a beginner and i even stated in my post that in fact I'm still considered as a beginner (Less than a year in the gym)
My point was whats the optimal thing for a beginner who wants to build mass. there are simply way too many posts online for people who didn't like there body "looks" after a year doing starting strength even though they did get stronger, and you can get the same results within a year without flaws or 18 months with flaws what do you think is more optimal?

If you have been going to the gym for a while and have no plans to put on size heck you can even get away training 3 days a week doing few exercises to "maintain" your build like what my friend does let alone going everyday, for a beginner its another story.

Dude, your first post was the opposite of asking for advice. And the one I quoted was literally talking about comparing biceps to measure progress.

I'm the one who started the first Fitness OT many, many years ago, back on the old board, and I like to think we have a long history of welcoming new posters.

But aggressive and ignorant isn't a good combination.

Wally_Wall · Apr 6, 2018

Yes SS will leave your bis a little behind but you can easily just add arm work. I'm training a beginner right now and he's basically tagging along with me every day. It's been 11 weeks and his progress is astounding.

Squat- 105x3> 205x3
DL- 170x3>295x3
Bench- 95x3>155x3
OHP- 75x3>115x3
Pullups he just did weighted 60 for 2

Point being there are multiple ways to get results and yours isn't some magical formula. Hell you aren't even doing the important lifts. I see no DL, BB OHP, and you're not even doing heavy squats. As a beginner those should be your bread and butter.

HHGaming · Apr 6, 2018

VenomousCoffee said:
Dude, your first post was the opposite of asking for advice. And the one I quoted was literally talking about comparing biceps to measure progress.

I'm the one who started the first Fitness OT many, many years ago, back on the old board, and I like to think we have a long history of welcoming new posters.

But aggressive and ignorant isn't a good combination.

You are such a nice welcoming person indeed.
Indeed my first post is ignorant and aggressive

HHGaming said:
so I'm still considered a beginner

If anyone here would like to rate/review my workout and find flaws/fixes or something i don't mind and would actually appreciate it but so far its working out great for me

Went from being pathetic where i can barely bench press 15lb in each hand XD to 75LB in each hand

both strong lifts 5x5 and Starting strength were even removed from reddit fitness as recommended workouts, these workouts will give you massive legs and average upper body+ so many flaws

The guy simply said lol you are light weighted and telling people what to do, i was stating my personal experience and believe it or not it might actually help other users who are a beginners like me when i mentioned biceps its as to compare it to other fellow beginner who did starting strength for less than a year not mr Olympia. as a way to talk about obvious flaws i see in starting strength thats all, it was a damn response to make a point about beginners vs beginners not the pros

Wally_Wall said:
Yes SS will leave your bis a little behind but you can easily just add arm work. I'm training a beginner right now and he's basically tagging along with me every day. It's been 11 weeks and his progress is astounding.

Squat- 105x3> 205x3
DL- 170x3>295x3
Bench- 95x3>155x3
OHP- 75x3>115x3
Pullups he just did weighted 60 for 2

Point being there are multiple ways to get results and yours isn't some magical formula. Hell you aren't even doing the important lifts. I see no DL, BB OHP, and you're not even doing heavy squats. As a beginner those should be your bread and butter.

I would love to see where did i say my workout plan which was designed for my "needs" is the worldwide formula for everyone?

I'm doing the important lifts
BB OHP not a must when i do DB OHP (less injury risk for me) + 2 presses twice a week (incline+flat)
DL i stated too i can't deadlift duo my body so i do heavier rack pull below the knee
And i do squat heavy so dunno why you are saying this
And i do pullup twice a week one is weighted

VenomousCoffee · Apr 6, 2018

Those growth numbers are really good, Wally.

Wally_Wall · Apr 6, 2018

VenomousCoffee said:
Those growth numbers are really good, Wally.

Aren't they? Dude has blown me away with his progress. Plus he weighs 145

Bumrush · Apr 6, 2018

HHGaming your initial post did not read like a beginner coming in asking for advice. Come on man. I'm not going to get involved but please don't think that that was the tone of your first post because it simply does not read that way

VenomousCoffee · Apr 6, 2018

Wally_Wall said:
Aren't they? Dude has blown me away with his progress. Plus he weighs 145

Damn....

lordxar · Apr 6, 2018

VenomousCoffee said:
Like my nuts, all shriveled and useless.

I don't care how this conversation started or how it ends. The whole thing was worth it for this comment lol

HHGaming · Apr 6, 2018

Bumrush said:
HHGaming your initial post did not read like a beginner coming in asking for advice. Come on man. I'm not going to get involved but please don't think that that was the tone of your first post because it simply does not read that way

Its OK i wont bother you guys :P carry on.

Wally_Wall · Apr 6, 2018

HHGaming said:
Its OK i wont bother you guys :P carry on.

You're not bothering us. We're all here to learn and motivate each other. Being active will accomplish both those things.

fallingedge · Apr 6, 2018

I just wanna see pics lmao. You can't claim to have blown up and say people are shocked that you are naural and trained for under a year and not be flexin a pic.

Mdsfx · Apr 6, 2018

HHGaming said:
The guy simply said lol you are light weighted and telling people what to do...

For me, it was just your approach that caught my attention. Using words like "useless" when describing the frequency that people in this very thread go to the gym wasn't exactly a good start. We're very welcoming and inclusive. This isn't some elitest club. Just... have a little more humility.

Wally_Wall said:
You're not bothering us. We're all here to learn and motivate each other. Being active will accomplish both those things.

This

HHGaming · Apr 6, 2018

Mdsfx said:
For me, it was just your approach that caught my attention. Using words like "useless" when describing the frequency that people in this very thread go to the gym wasn't exactly a good start. We're very welcoming and inclusive. This isn't some elitest club. Just... have a little more humility.

This

No worries my point was going to gym everyday for me was useless as a beginner talking to other beginners not the pros and people who are used to insane volume and i was even open for suggestions etc i was simply stating what i felt because i tried going everyday, it didn't end well as a beginner

Wally_Wall said:
You're not bothering us. We're all here to learn and motivate each other. Being active will accomplish both those things.

Thanks wally, i wish if i can deadalift but i simply find it hard to do not sure why maybe my legs are long or something so i did stick to rack pull below the knee

fallingedge said:
I just wanna see pics lmao. You can't claim to have blown up and say people are shocked that you are naural and trained for under a year and not be flexin a pic.

I'm 150lb you think people see me and get shocked over size? obviously the size is not impressive as i said some get shocked how a skinny beginner can DB press his weight without difficulty ,pullup 12 reps with lot of weight for my size (Pullups were always easy for me dunno why???) and after they see my "before" pictures from a while ago they question if i was natural that's all, 150lb will never be something special at bodybuilding world these days, it just sometimes when people ask me for how long you been training and i tell them 6 months or so back then and never worked out before my whole life they tell me to gtfo and no way you are natural etc :(

Wally_Wall · Apr 6, 2018

This place is perfect form learning lifts. You probably just need to dial in your DL form. Post a video and we shall help you. Long legs are not something that should be stopping you from DLing. I've been helped on my lifts more times than I can count by the many knowledgeable people in this community.

fallingedge · Apr 6, 2018

HHGaming said:
No worries my point was going to gym everyday for me was useless as a beginner talking to other beginners not the pros and people who are used to insane volume and i was even open for suggestions etc i was simply stating what i felt because i tried going everyday, it didn't end well as a beginner

Thanks wally, i wish if i can deadalift but i simply find it hard to do not sure why maybe my legs are long or something so i did stick to rack pull below the knee

I'm 150lb you think people see me and get shocked over size? obviously the size is not impressive as i said some get shocked how a skinny beginner can DB press his weight without difficulty ,pullup 12 reps with lot of weight for my size (Pullups were always easy for me dunno why???) and after they see my "before" pictures from a while ago they question if i was natural that's all, 150lb will never be something special at bodybuilding world these days, it just sometimes when people ask me for how long you been training and i tell them 6 months or so back then and never worked out before my whole life they tell me to gtfo and no way you are natural etc :(

Bro, I don't doubt you put in the hard work and are proud of your progress. You should be! The natural comments seem like more from ignorace of others as they don't realize how much of a difference your body can change in a short amount of time. I love reading and seeing progress stories and pics. Helps keep me motivated lol.

Mdsfx · Apr 6, 2018

So going back a year or so, what did you start with? Did you try starting strength or stronglifts? Just curious. I gained most from those programs and not just strength/mass but learning the compound lifts that I now feel are most important. Of course there are always others to supplement them, but I'll never give up squats, bench/OHP, and rows/pull ups. They're my first priority.

Mdsfx · Apr 6, 2018

Wally_Wall said:
This place is perfect form learning lifts. You probably just need to dial in your DL form. Post a video and we shall help you. Long legs are not something that should be stopping you from DLing. I've been helped on my lifts more times than I can count by the many knowledgeable people in this community.

It begins... :)

VenomousCoffee · Apr 6, 2018

I'm going to post progress pics as soon as I figure out how to 'shop my face onto Wally's avatar.

fallingedge · Apr 6, 2018

Post em up nerd. No fear.

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