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REgals [Women of Era] |OT| Episode I: The Female Menace
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I love Bayonetta, the games and the character. There are a bunch of gratuitous moments where the camera in cutscenes will focus on her breasts and genitals, but I think overall she owns herself. I've also noticed that a lot of men don't actually find her that attractive, so I guess they did something right with her design.
Probably a random question, but has anyone here put together like a family recipe book before? I've been wanting to collect a lot of our family recipes, particularly my grandmas, and since she passed this past year I thought it all the more important to collect those recipes so my whole family can have them. I'm not sure about the best way to get one made, though. A quick google brings up a few websites that specialize in printing recipe books, but idk how good they actually are. Figured I'd throw it out there to see if anyone else has done it before and had any suggestions.
I think she's a mixed bag honestly, she's a rare example of a woman who is extremely dominant and funny/eccentric yet a lot of her sexualization is really gratuitous
played bayonetta 1. didnt care much for her character, but it was her overemphasized proportions that really, really hurt my eyes (im an aspiring artist when i do have time to draw, and her anatomy was just .... it was just not right (for me)) (not the boobs either, it was the length of her legs)
(oh also her high heels were terrible) (why do women characters fight in high heels?) (even if they work in their fantasy lalaland cuz of ~magic~, game creators creating women characters wearing high heels are statements perpetuating that high heels are stereotypically expected to be worn by women)
also why are all "empowered" women characters are always the same type?
where are the "empowered" women characters that do not make their sexuality their ONE statement about empowerment?
(oh also her high heels were terrible) (why do women characters fight in high heels?) (even if they work in their fantasy lalaland cuz of ~magic~, game creators creating women characters wearing high heels are statements perpetuating that high heels are stereotypically expected to be worn by women)
also why are all "empowered" women characters are always the same type?
where are the "empowered" women characters that do not make their sexuality their ONE statement about empowerment?
I didnt, but a mother of our kids bought a book preprinted where you could write down your recipes. Looked very lovely, with little advices on every page.
Also I think that hand written gives it a special note when it comes to recipe collections.
Like this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1933494115/?tag=era0f0-20
I also thought zero's portrayal was refreshing too. Though her sexuality was front and centre I didn't get the impression that its purpose was to titillate the player. That game wasn't afraid to be a little gross or intimidating about her appetites and I liked that a lot.
I agree about high heels, it something that always bothers me if I can't change my character's clothing and change to other footwear. It must be so uncomfortable.
I have only had one really bad experience since I started playing Magic, but I have never gone to my LGS alone. I specifically got my boyfriend into Magic so that I could drag him to the store with me.
I wouldn't necessarily describe Bayonetta as a sexual power fantasy, but I like her a lot. I think it's her weird, alien proportions that really make her work for me. She towers over normal humans in a way that is completely dominating. I'm not sure I'd describe her size as empowering, but as a small person who frequently feels intimidated because of their size, the idea of being a gigantic, stylish witch is an appealing fantasy.
yep. they are super uncomfortable > __ <
full disclosure: i wear high heels on occassions. but not all day long and not to run/dance/fight monsters in. they are agonizing to wear after a few hours. and they have long-term ramifications for your spine and hips at older age, if they are worn regularly and for long periods of time.
she didnt seem more gigantic than the other characters in the game though. i can't recall the man character being much shorter, tbh. like, she was taller, but i wouldn't call her 'gigantic'. everyone in that game had proportions that was exaggerated, wasnt it? it wasn't just her. everyone had super long legs/arms/torso. it was game aesthetics or sommit.
My sister-in-law did one for all the family Christmas cookies that get made every year since the handwritten ones were getting worn out. She took a picture of the recipe card, and took a picture of the finished cookies on a nice plate and used Snapfish or Shutterfly to make books for all her siblings. She even put together a shopping list at the back for making each cookie.
Most of the cast has the same weird Clamp proportions that she does, but she looks like a giant next to Enzo (who is more normally proportioned). Seeing her next to him at the start of the game definitely influenced the way I see her in general.
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Oh my, that is simply wonderful. Reminds me of the Hawkeye Initiative haha.Men posing like women are hilarious.
Source: https://ddriana.deviantart.com/art/Strong-Female-Pose-Dragon-Age-381583613
I only ever played the demos and hated the games, so I can't comment on the character much, but I've never liked her design much. I think she looks stupid. >_>
Right?? :)
i guess we have different impressions :> (which is fine)
...................mmmmmmm maybe she'd be more convincingly 'gigantic' if she didn't have to wear heels since she should be 'gigantic' enough without them.
Are you talking about Prompto from FFXV?
I love that character, but I remember the change of his hair really irked the crap out of me. Of course, no male character when it comes to looks can compare to Ravus <3 . Oh and HAI everybody! :D Hope everyone is having a good start to their week (is it Friday yet?).
Haha nah, the guy from the FF Mobius.Are you talking about Prompto from FFXV?
I love that character, but I remember the change of his hair really irked the crap out of me. Of course, no male character when it comes to looks can compare to Ravus <3 . Oh and HAI everybody! :D Hope everyone is having a good start to their week (is it Friday yet?).
OHHHHHH I see. Wow. They really covered him from head to toe. I'm surprised there's no cape for his backside. Boo on this :< .Haha nah, the guy from the FF Mobius.
I recall that, when they showed off Zelda Breath of the Wild, I got so annoyed by the two girls who drooled the whole time over bare chested Link. I got it that they wanted to show off the temperature feature once, but the following feels-like-20-minutes giggling oh-naked-link scenes were so annoying.
Like, really? Is that necessary?
Like, really? Is that necessary?
As a dude, I don't find her attractive, but I do think she's badass. Her proportions are kind of like, well, dudes like long legs right? BAM, look at those! But they're so exaggerated that it doesn't really work as a typical "sexy" model. That said, I think her attitude is great, her self-awareness and awareness of the player and the camera, and she has a dominatrix sort of thing, a big "you can look but can't touch" sort of vibe. Just my feeling about her.
Men posing like women are hilarious.
Source: https://ddriana.deviantart.com/art/Strong-Female-Pose-Dragon-Age-381583613
I didn't know there was a JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Dragon Age crossover.
I cosplayed Bayonetta.
You should give it a try, very fast pace and the action is smooth.
I love Bayonetta, probably my favorite game character.
Men posing like women are hilarious.
Source: https://ddriana.deviantart.com/art/Strong-Female-Pose-Dragon-Age-381583613
Some of those guys have nicer legs then me! -grumble- -grumble- haha
Sorry you had to go through that, that's something I could have probably used growing up as at 26 now I'm still no good at standing up for myself and let people easily walk over me and still plenty naive in many ways.
I like Bayonetta for the way she interacts with the other characters in the game. The camera can get annoying during cutscenes though.
On a completely unrelated note, it sure is "nice" to see the developers of Xenoblade 2 take objectification to a whole new level with the robot character. It's doubly gross since she looks like a little girl.
On a completely unrelated note, it sure is "nice" to see the developers of Xenoblade 2 take objectification to a whole new level with the robot character. It's doubly gross since she looks like a little girl.
Persephone made a thread about sexualization in games, really well written, as per usual https://www.resetera.com/threads/why-women-criticise-sexualised-character-designs.4483/
I find a lot of the comments tiring and don't have the energy to debate this right now, but kudos to Pirate Bae, your posts were exactly what I wanted to say.
It's weird how straight men can't differentiate between objectification and sexualization and go to such absurd lengths to defend it, despite women constantly telling them that it's harmful and degrading. The number of posters who bring up "but women like to cosplay these sexy designs, you don't speak for all women"'in order to dismiss the OP....talk about missing the point. You can like a thing but also be critical of it.
I also find it annoying when they bring up examples of "sexualized" men? For me personally, I never viewed sexualized men and women equally because of the experiences of gender being different in regards to real world objectification and social context. Women are actually objectified in the real world to a wider degree where not a single woman I've met hasn't been harassed in some way by a dude. Men hardly, if ever experience this by a woman. Sexualizing women feeds into that societal problem, which largely doesn't exist for men to the same degree, so I never understood the comparisons. The guy who brought up romance novels seemed very tone deaf in that regard imo.
I find a lot of the comments tiring and don't have the energy to debate this right now, but kudos to Pirate Bae, your posts were exactly what I wanted to say.
It's weird how straight men can't differentiate between objectification and sexualization and go to such absurd lengths to defend it, despite women constantly telling them that it's harmful and degrading. The number of posters who bring up "but women like to cosplay these sexy designs, you don't speak for all women"'in order to dismiss the OP....talk about missing the point. You can like a thing but also be critical of it.
I also find it annoying when they bring up examples of "sexualized" men? For me personally, I never viewed sexualized men and women equally because of the experiences of gender being different in regards to real world objectification and social context. Women are actually objectified in the real world to a wider degree where not a single woman I've met hasn't been harassed in some way by a dude. Men hardly, if ever experience this by a woman. Sexualizing women feeds into that societal problem, which largely doesn't exist for men to the same degree, so I never understood the comparisons. The guy who brought up romance novels seemed very tone deaf in that regard imo.
This is why I avoided this thread. I just don't have the energy to engage these buffoons.
I often feel like both women and men are trying to speak for me so I just don't even bother posting in those threads. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I saw enough of those on the other site to know how they go.
Yeah it's in my backlog and I liked what I played of it. Just got distracted by other stuff, oops.
Also as a gay woman I don't find Bayonetta attractive either. As Pooh said, everything about her is so exaggerated that it doesn't appeal to me. But I don't need to find her attractive to find her really cool.
Yeah it's in my backlog and I liked what I played of it. Just got distracted by other stuff, oops.
Also as a gay woman I don't find Bayonetta attractive either. As Pooh said, everything about her is so exaggerated that it doesn't appeal to me. But I don't need to find her attractive to find her really cool.
The thing that gets a little in the way of Bayo being this crazy high-fashion mantis woman for me is the camera shenanigans.
I think it's useful to dissect it like this. Bayo can be a positive example of sexualization while still being flawed in some parts.
I got really grossed out when I learned that Bayonetta dresses herself in her hair and that pretty much stopped me from ever playing it.
I haven't played any Final Fantasy game, but I've been interested in the series for a while. Someone in that thread posted some of the female protagonists from FF6 and they looked really cool, have any of you played FF6? Is it worth trying, it will be my first FF. How is the writing?
This design is just too cool
This design is just too cool
FF6 is awesome! I'd heavily reccomend it l, especially if you've enjoyed stuff along the lines of FE (nice icon!) The story takes a while to get going but both female protagonists are awesome. There's some really poignant moments and twists in the story, it really touched me. I think it has a great story for being a SNES game and not something modern :)I haven't played any Final Fantasy game, but I've been interested in the series for a while. Someone in that thread posted some of the female protagonists from FF6 and they looked really cool, have any of you played FF6? Is it worth trying, it will be my first FF. How is the writing?
This design is just too cool
And yeah, Terra's design is just beautiful, I love it a lot.
Amanos' art for Terra is absolutely sublime! Thanks for the response, I'll give it a try!
Lmao, is the violent twitching a positive thing or a negative thing? :p
Thanks! <3 FE is probably my fav series and the Tellius games (9/10) are my favourite games ever! That sounds amazing, I will def try it! It seems like it's available for SNES, GBA and PSone...which is the best version to try??