They'd need to make it loop well, but yeah.
The real big brain meme is to use the DQ VIII soundrack if they can't.
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DRAGON QUEST XI coming to PS4 and Steam on September 4, 2018, Switch ver. coming "Much later"
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The real big brain meme is to use the DQ VIII soundrack if they can't.
It isn't like DQ music is that different from each other, it could work.
Flopped in sales, okay. But IX is the only DQ game I personally felt was a flop to play. Are there any sell through numbers for IX? I remember all the stores having stacks and stacks of DQ IX sitting on their shelves. So I always thought those sales numbers were shipped rather than sold.
But is that shipped or sold through to customers? Did they even share sold through numbers back then?
Barely or not, it's higher. Only in your opinion these numbers are terrible. Do you know what SE expectations were for the west or UK regarding the market?
Also lol that just because the game is a Minecraft clone, it should be huge. What kind of logic is this? I thought i heard it all with ''success based on store rankings without any numbers'' but i guess i was wrong.
I was talking about UK only, in case i wasn't clear. A verified leaked shared the numbers, revealing that Builders sold more than the 3DS games in UK. The same numbers has also been confirmed by one of the people who run this site. As for worldwide, it's unknown if Builders have shipped more than the 3DS games but considering DQVIII sold 900k in Japan and SE never shared any shipments for it or west numbers the game should be lower compared to Builders for which they announced 1.1m shipment. Because otherwise, why they wouldn't share DQVIII 3DS shipment too, like Builders?
I know the feeling all to well as a Vita owner. Was it Nintendo of America that did the localization of VII and VIII?
EDIT: Shloc Ltd did VII's localization.
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User Banned (24 Hours): Continuing to antagonise another member after being warned in the past to stop doing so.
Funny thing, I was right about those store rankings you can't seem to let go of (despite being warned about it by moderation). Puyo Puyo Tetris for example being well over half a million on Switch alone.
And your expectations strawman is transparent as ever. You seem pretty eager to agree with DQVII and DQVIII as bombing yet when I point out Builders sold practically the same suddenly an identical evaluation on performance is only my unsupported opinion or some nonsense. Your hypocrisy is really shameless.
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You wouldn't happen to have a source for that information? I'm relaying some details to other people and want to get the info to them as "raw" as possible.
We do have some old NPD datapoints:
DQVIII Nov + Dec 2005 = 220k sold (430k shipped)
DQIX July 2010 = 132k sold (ltd over 500k sold)
Could've SWORN I read that in an interview somewhere, but I can't find it now, sorry. Aeana might know better.
Did square ever really announce they were doing a switch/NX version in 2015 or was it more that they were planning for it ? i do seem to remember square backtracking
Thanks anyway. I'll go dig a little, then, unless Aeana drops a link.
Apparently, Horii had already confirmed it, but someone else at Square Enix backtracked to make the statement say they are only "considering" it, according to this Gematsu article:
https://gematsu.com/2016/08/dragon-...imultaneous-launch-ps4-3ds-versions-suggested
But, Horii himself made the statement regarding the Switch version based on UE 4 last October. So I'd like to think it's still coming, however, I do not believe it will be a straight-up port of the PS4/PC release.
On another note, Square Enix Germany uploaded the gameplay impressions video with german text, meaning EFIGS translation is pretty much confirmed:
(I'll go and have a look if SE did the same for France, Spain and Italy)
EDIT: Found the video for France. Looking at the german video above, they've also kept naming conventions, which is good. Wishing fellow spanish- and italian-speaking DQ fans luck they don't forget you like they did with Kingdom Hearts DDD.
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I'm excited about this but goddamn am I so ridiculously bummed about no Switch version coming at the same time. I was really holding out hope. DQ just goes so well handheld and I'm having a child born literally a week before this release date. I could see getting in some handheld gaming time while snuggling the little fella but getting to my PS4 to play is going to be a bear. Not sure how much I'll even be able to play. Still gonna pick it up though.
Since some people were discussing it earlier. Builders did sell more than DQ7 and 8 on 3DS in the US, but not by a significant amount.
Builders certainly didn't sell anywhere near the heights of DQ8 on PS2 or DQ9 on DS.
Which makes sense really, considering Builders is a spin off and the PS2 and DS games were mainline titles.
Builders certainly didn't sell anywhere near the heights of DQ8 on PS2 or DQ9 on DS.
Which makes sense really, considering Builders is a spin off and the PS2 and DS games were mainline titles.
Man the music in the Gameplay videos is terrible. Everything looks so good but sounds like trash. Why? :(
It's a shame, really. I'm not against MIDI music in the right context - it would sound off in, say, a RPG aping for a SNES feel - but here, it comes off as a petty action of an otherwise excellent composer:
This is pure grandeur and everything sounds just so... vivid, whereas the music in the game comes across as artificial and limp.
... I feel like an idiot right now. My negativity towards Square Enix has gotten the better of me. T_T
Horii confirmed that in the very first video (him saying DQ XI was coming west) if I'm not mistaken !
Sugiyama is garbage, both because of the tracks in the game, but also as a human being.
What. The. Fuck.
It's like DQVIII. They constantly keep saying they want this game to break DQ out in the West yet don't even fight to get the soundtrack right? It's not doing it with that midi OST it currently has. Just not happening. Hopefully they get their shit together and change it to this orchestral version before release...cause wow, it's not even funny just how much better it is.
This is a serious issue and the game is going to get effected sales wise and critically if they don't address this ASAP, I don't know how anyone could say otherwise.
Graphics sure look breathtaking. I've gotten over the music aspect - for the most part... It seems people are confident that a mod for the PC version will allow for orchestration which means I may have to play on PC instead of PS4.
Yeah, the overworld theme doesn't sound as soothing as DQVIII since XI's theme has more of a marching rythmn to it, but the game looks fine overall.
There is so much life to the colourful/lush graphics. I get the sensation to explore every nook and cranny of the environments.
From comments I have read from users this should be one of the best stories in the series yet. 8 felt very 'safe' or quintessential in that department, but the charm of the world and beautiful orchestrated music (as well as the charmingly personalities of the main cast) kept me intrigued throughout.
Let's hope this entry makes a positive impact here in the west.
Yeah, the overworld theme doesn't sound as soothing as DQVIII since XI's theme has more of a marching rythmn to it, but the game looks fine overall.
There is so much life to the colourful/lush graphics. I get the sensation to explore every nook and cranny of the environments.
From comments I have read from users this should be one of the best stories in the series yet. 8 felt very 'safe' or quintessential in that department, but the charm of the world and beautiful orchestrated music (as well as the charmingly personalities of the main cast) kept me intrigued throughout.
Let's hope this entry makes a positive impact here in the west.
I don't hate the Midi music. It just doesn't belong in this game.
I just hope SE cuts that guy loose soon. Tired of his soundtrack nonsense too. I sure did enjoy getting 8's soundtrack only to find most of the tracks were cut together instead of in convenient single tracks.
I just hope SE cuts that guy loose soon. Tired of his soundtrack nonsense too. I sure did enjoy getting 8's soundtrack only to find most of the tracks were cut together instead of in convenient single tracks.
I kinda like it, after all DQ generally mixes it up with how the overworld music sounds. VIII's is pretty relaxing which is great for immersion but XI really makes it feel like you are going out there to get shit done.
So far I'm just a fan of VIII. Haven't explored the others yet except for 9 which I couldn't get into. Loved some of the music in it though.
My hope for XI is that it will rekindle the magic I felt with VIII. I hope I am not going in with the wrong expectations.
Pretty much every DQ will do the trick if you're willing to give it a try.
I've seen so many people here say they've only played VIII or are only willing to play VIII and it's like, you guys are missing out! DQ is a great series with so many great stories in it, it's okay to play a 2D game every now and then it's not gonna kill ya!
Do you recommend playing 1-4 on NES or 5&6 on SNES? Which are more essential?
You can start with DQIV on DS (and mobile and SNES). It's short and fast-paced. I played it last year and I can guarantee you the game holds up. Then you can play V and VI. I think V is one of the best RPGs of all time. After that you can decide if you want to go back to I-III or continue to VII.
I'm not sure what's considered the best versions of the NES ones. For IV - VI I played the DS remakes, though I believe original flavor VI is considered superior. Definitely play IV and V though, IV is a classic and V has some of the most tearjerking stuff in the series. I love VII too but it doesn't seem too well-liked around these parts.
Well if you want to go in order
DQ I, II, and III - Mobile is official, but you can play them on SNES via fan translation.
DQ IV, V, VI - DS if possible, but they're available on Mobile. I actually still need to play V and VI but my 3DS is busted, I'm not sure if they're a viable option.
DQ VII - 3DS
DQ VIII - PS2 or 3DS. Really depends if you prefer console and a big screen or handheld on a small screen.
1-4 on mobile (iOS/Android)
I strongly reccomend you to play DQ5 on PS2 because it's a full remake and a great game. The game was released only in Japan but there is an english patch available. Otherwise go with the mobile version. For DQVI, your best option would be the SNES version but the english patch available for it isn't perfect (at least the last time i played it) so go with the mobile version instead. As for DQVII, personally i prefer the PS1 version but most people prefer the 3DS remake which is a great effort, so you should probably go with this.
Regarding DQVIII, either PS2 or 3DS it's fine. If you prefer playing it on your big screen go with PS2 otherwise go with 3DS for the portability. The 3DS version has many extras that is worth it though like two new party members, new story cutscenes, new monnsters, new equipment and some other things.
May I ask what do you personally enjoy about the series and which ones are your personally favourites? Perhaps I can gauge which ones to try based on that.
I've only ever played DQ8, but for me it encapsulates everything that I think the series is known for. A big, sprawling adventure with some heartfelt moments between characters. Unfortunately a big part of the appeal for me was the glorious visuals and soaring orchestral score, which both are gimped on 3DS, but that's the more accessible version at the moment.
Yeah I haven't played all the past entries, but DQIII and DQV are really good, I and II might be tad too archaic, but I'm sure IV and VI are great as well. Though I really couldn't get into VII on 3DS. The game is way too slow even by DQ standards.
I very much enjoy the small-scale stories that are running concurrently to the main plot. They all are very well-written, enjoyable and surprisingly mature in the way they are treated. Dragon Quest VII is the best written DQ in my opinion, with very fleshed-out characters.
Other than that I like the level of customization of the battle system, which I think DQ3, 5 and 7 excels at.
I also like novel concepts in DQ, with DQ5 going through the life of your character being the most interesting premise.
Exploration is also key. In that aspect I think DQ3 and 6 are the best at what they do. Special mention of DQ2 for its sheer size, that I hugely enjoyed in its super famicom remake.
In terms of score, they all are great. I think DQ5, 6 and 7 are among the best of the crop, musically.
Other than that, I am not a fan of DQ8. I think anything the game does has been done better by a past DQ, which I never got the feeling from the 7 DQs before that. I also think it's the first game where the quality nosedived and it didn't bring anything new to the table. Gone is the party talk system, where the characters hardly talks more than two lines most of the time, which is the biggest stinger for me, and the story played it safe and didn't grab me at all. It's also way too slow a game, you fight two battles in any DQ the time it takes you to fight one in 8.
That's pretty much where I come from in the series.
Thanks for your detailed response.
I may give Dragon Quest 7 for 3DS a try some day. A big part of the charm of Dragon Quest VIII for me was the graphical presentation (cell shading) along with the characters, voice acting and ofcourse Sugiyama's magnificent score. If Dragon Quest 7s story and music are some of the best that may be enough to keep my attention.
The only other game in the series I played was Dragon Quest Heroes which really hit home on the graphics department and music. The game itself was just okay, but I imagine they fixed a lot of the flaws in the sequel which I have yet to play.
Rocket Slime on DS was good too.
Getting back on topic have you played the Japanese release of Dragon Quest XI? I am curious to read more fan opinions on that as well.
Actually no, DQ games are known for a series of vignettes strung together. This is what sets it apart from other JRPG series.
