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Shadownet

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Oct 29, 2017
3,278
Yeah I just made up a stipulation you have to full throttle in reverse the whole time or something.

The other 2 were good puzzles.

But that's exactly what Wade had to do. Did you just spaced out or something?

He was driving backward at full speed. He was keeping up with the other vehicles above him.
 
Oct 25, 2017
29,505
Anyways for people that have seen this already I'll ask again-how scary is The Shining scene? My daughter who is almost 10 wants to see this, but I don't think she could handle The Shining.
Honestly other than the blood hallway from The Shining i'd say its kinda mild.
It goes overthe top which would probably work better for younger audiences.

The actual horror moments certainly aren't the tone of The Shining.
Bathtub lady turns into a zombie swinging a knife at the character, axe starts coming through the walls, character is transported to the garden maze and the zombie is now huge swinging an axe down on the maze.
 

Shadownet

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Oct 29, 2017
3,278
I guess I'll be "that guy" but this really didn't gel with me on any level.

The pacing was really rushed (I couldn't buy the sudden "I love you" thing for instance), bigger moments in the plot that should have some resonance are completely glossed over to make room for more references (Rest in peace aunt caretaker, we literally hardly knew ya) and the references themselves came across incredibly obnoxious and cheesy. My eyes nearly rolled out of my head when the Iron Giant did the T2 thumbs up. The Shining sequence was the only moment I really perked up but turning the bathing woman into a rotting zombie and doing the giant axe over the maze bit was really unnecessary.

All that said, I don't outright "hate" it and I could see it having its fans if the nostalgia craze stuff works for you, I just really disliked it on a personal level and probably won't give it a second thought after tonight. It's not "Spielberg is shit now" levels of bad, it's more "Spielberg had shit material to work with." In any event, I'm glad RPO didn't have a sequel written. At least we can rest assured knowing Spielberg is going to be working on material with actual quality again now that this is out the door.
You watched a movie that was adapted from a source material filled with geek references updated for modern audience and you didn't think it wasnt going to be cheesy?

Cheesiness is basically half the point of nostalgia. When I was a kid, watching Power Rangers was awesome as hell. But now rewatching MMPR, it's incredibly cheesy but still nostalgia filled.

Also hate to break it to you, the book is getting a sequel.
 

jstevenson

Developer at Insomniac Games
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
2,042
Burbank CA
I've never read the book, but gotta say I had a fun time. It's popcorn movie, but it was one of the better Speilberg adventures in a while, despite some weird cringeyness
 

Pennybags

Prophet of Truth
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Oct 27, 2017
1,622
I couldn't see very clearly because I was in 3D against my wishes, but did I spy a Madcat/Timberwolf mech from Battletech/Mechwarrior?
 

Dream Machine

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Oct 25, 2017
13,085
Man some people want this film to fail so badly, the salt is real. The reviews have been positive, and the predicted opening weekend has gone from 35 mill to 50-55 million. In China, the film received a super high 9.2 duban score (it's basically their version of cinemascore). Having seen the film with an audience, I can tell you it's a definite crowd pleaser.
I thought the book was hot, hot garbage trash. And not just for the "problematic" elements that always get trotted out as if they are the book's only flaws. It's just terribly written on a technical writing level. It's clumsy, the metaphors and similes are terrible, and it relies utterly on references and repetition.

However, I'm glad it seems to have been translated into a fun movie that people are enjoying. I have to imagine the pop culture references in movie form are more visual and therefore much less painful than in the book. Unless in the movie there is a voiceover saying shit like:

I realized I felt myself rising out of my seat and pulling down the front of my rig as I looked to Art3mis and called her my 'number one'. She giggled. Of course realizing I was referencing the mannerisms and quoting Jean-Luc Picard, captain of the starship Enterprise-D, from the groundbreaking and influential sci-fi series Star Trek: The Next Generation that ran from 1987 to 1994. I had watched all seven seasons three times each and had memorized every detail. I gazed out the view screen and declared, "Engage", while she looked on in awe. I saw the destruction below as the robots fought. The power lines snapped across their chests like Godzilla. "The original Japanese title of the film is 'Gojira', and is a combination of the Japanese words for gorilla and whale", I uttered. Art3mis was still giggling.

Shit was wack.
 
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Disco

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Oct 25, 2017
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posted in movies thread:

Ready Player One - its long in the tooth, and I wasn't particularly invested in the reality-based characters even though Spielberg tried his best with what he was working with. but when you get to the Oasis...whewwwwww. Spielberg's skills with the camera in these action setpieces is as strong as ever, and when given free reign in a fully cgi world there's some insane stuff going on with the camera placement in here (and still easy to follow even with the mess of characters and things from pop culture that are fighting for your attention). the intro to the virtual world gives you a taste of what to expect as you're hit in the face with this visual feast of multiple settings and escapist fantasies in this VR, it all looked so cool. it shows its hand too early with the chase scene though, its such a chaotic rush (an improvement on the one in Tintin too) and even though the action in the rest of the flick is also good, this was the best scene of the movie.

his best work is in the Virtual Reality world and virtual splendor, whereas in the real world he's burdened with a mediocre script. everytime we cut back to the real life people it left me wanting for more of the virtual world. He does his best with what he's given though and injects his usual sentimentality and picks up some of the slack. Fun movie, definitely worth watching for the insane action sequences in here. Also I thought I wouldn't be so fazed by the pop culture references but I marked the fuck out at two in particular, one of which was unexpected
the recreation/digital placement of the characters into the Shining set, the horror fan of me was hella into this. and the Gundam fight, Spielberg's action prowess being applied to this robot made for a really dope setpiece in the finale

don't want to spoil the end fight but Spielberg rendered the Transformers and Pacific Rim franchise action moot with this short mech sequence in the finale. The performances were all okay, Mark Rylance was the standout in here. I didn't expect him to play his eccentric tech billionaire like Garth from Waynes World, that was nice and made for him to be the most interesting part of the live action portion. Movie should have been shorter and had a better script to work with, but the premise made for a cool sandbox for Spielberg to deliver some of the most technically impressive action scenes I've seen in a blockbuster in a few years. I want him to stop making boilerplate period dramas and jump back into the adventure blockbuster game again

I think it could have been better with another pass at the script or different writers, but the action sequences in here were fantastic. And I liked that it was a bit critical of being a slave to pop culture and VR as opposed to wholeheartedly championing it.
 

tino

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
1,561
Surprisingly I enjoyed it quite a bit. It feels like a play thru of a good Ubisoft adventure game from next-next gen hardware. The motion capture looks very natural inside the virtual world. The cast is good, so is the score.

My favorite part are the scene in the dance hall and the "war room". For the 2nd half spielberg got the pace and the spacial logistic right. 3.5-4 out of 5, I don't know yet.

I don't think Spielberg care about any of the anime referenced in the movie, he should have replaced it with properties he know and care.
 

RBelong2Us

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
895
Oasis stuff is awesome but I can't give the movie a pass on how lazy a lot of the real world elements are done. I enjoyed the first third of the film a great deal more due to it being mostly Oasis
 
Oct 27, 2017
7,461
Oh man the geek within my girlfriend and I recognising all those characters

The shining scene was amazing and I didn't expect it at all
 

Vareon

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Oct 25, 2017
6,846
Well yeah, but then there's stuff like:

1. Nobody figured to find the easter egg in Adventure even though the entire point of this grand scheme is an easter egg. It gets immediately dismissed by the IOI squad after the guy win-loses.

2. Nobody tried the backwards maneuver in 5 years, even if by some random trial and error thing which is usually how plenty of secrets are discovered.

It's not necessarily anything exceptionally dumb to stand out, but it is just oddly convenient.

This kind of thing was my biggest problem with the book, and being the main point of the story it unfortunately takes away the rest of the book. In a world where totally arcane ARGs and Half A Press were a thing, it's hard for me to believe that an entire world full of gamers couldn't find such a simple easter egg, and that Wade is the only person with genuine obsession to 80s/90s pop culture to discover the game's secrets.

But I heard enough that the movie had some differences with the book, not necessarily better, but different, so I'll give it a try.
 

Scullibundo

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Oct 25, 2017
9,692
The only problem I had with the film is that they could have been braver with how Artemis looked in real life. The whole 'I won't be what you expect' is kinda rendered moot when IRL she's a knockout with a unique birthmark.
 

UnknownSpirit

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Oct 25, 2017
2,150
The score is now up on Spotify and various streaming services.

Looking forward to listening to it today. Just an FYI.
 

ChrisJSY

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Oct 29, 2017
2,054
So Gregarious Simulations couldn't or wouldn't tell IOI to fuck off with their loyal centres until Wade took over?
Because they hammered in how evil a place it is, did I miss anything?

Even Og...Oggy could've done something before he quit, no?


The only problem I had with the film is that they could have been braver with how Artemis looked in real life. The whole 'I won't be what you expect' is kinda rendered moot when IRL she's a knockout with a unique birthmark.

Haha I was thinking the same thing, even when she said it I said to myself; noooope she's wrong.
Then when we saw her I then said, I'm not someone you'd expect :(
 

shintoki

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Oct 25, 2017
15,119
Spielberg just took every wannabe blockbuster director making $100m+ shit to school. This guy is 71 and is blocking these scenes with more energy, creativity and verve than anybody else operating at the same level right now. Haven't been that wowed by the flawless staging of action setpieces since Fury Road. The film is also pure, geeky, popcorn fun. And it's more than its winks and nods, though it certainly has its lion's share of them.

As an aside, this film in 60 seconds had a more exciting and fun Mecha/Robot fight than Bay or anybody has been able to film across 5 films. I've never watched Gundam, but that shit was dope.

Going to agree with this. Saw BP, Thor, and others. Action sequences always were the weak link.

The Shining sequence is a best of the year already. Along with the rest being top notch and fun
 

Sanjuro

Member
Oct 25, 2017
31,077
Massachusetts
The only problem I had with the film is that they could have been braver with how Artemis looked in real life. The whole 'I won't be what you expect' is kinda rendered moot when IRL she's a knockout with a unique birthmark.

Should have been Large Marge.

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UnknownSpirit

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Oct 25, 2017
2,150
Listening to the main theme in a vaccum (as released officially on YouTube a couple of weeks back) and it's a bit so so but the overall soundtrack for the movie is quite excellent.

So far. From what I have listened it. It's pretty good. I think it's the best thing Silvestri has done in a while and surprised at how much BTTF is in it.

I'm excited to see it in context tonight.
 

Pilgrimzero

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,129
First review I've seen that thinks the novel is better and has a better romance lol



The book allows for more characterization. The moive story in the film is literally

1. They meet
2. Wade: "I read your blog, I love you!"
3. Sam: "You don't even know me@l!
4. They meet IRL 10 minutes later and sparks fly

The whole film takes place over like 1-2 days and by the end of it he has literally declared his love to her to the whole planet and she reciprocated.

The book takes place over months/ years including a long gap where they don't speak to each other after he says "I love you". Which by the by this is after they've "dated" for several months and believe it not she likes him too but can't commit due her insecurities and desire to not be distracted off of the hunt for the egg.
 
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Oct 27, 2017
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Kinda disappointed that they went for a pretty lady for Artemis. It would be much interesting if she turns out to be a Detroit guy, haha, and I think it would drive the 'real life connection' theme better.
 

Pilgrimzero

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,129
This kind of thing was my biggest problem with the book, and being the main point of the story it unfortunately takes away the rest of the book. In a world where totally arcane ARGs and Half A Press were a thing, it's hard for me to believe that an entire world full of gamers couldn't find such a simple easter egg, and that Wade is the only person with genuine obsession to 80s/90s pop culture to discover the game's secrets.

But I heard enough that the movie had some differences with the book, not necessarily better, but different, so I'll give it a try.

In the novel, Wade didn't find the first key first (though he is the first to win it) and then the other keys and gates he has a 50/50 track record on finding them alone or someone helps him after they already found the gate/key.
 

Rendering...

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Oct 30, 2017
19,089
I thought this would be dumb but I was pleasantly surprised. I can't even pin down why the trailers didn't work for me besides the iffy style and uninspiring action shots. Maybe it was that combined with the shoehorned A-ha song, which felt to me like an on-the-nose nostalgia grab? Turns out the trailers weren't deceptive, they just didn't highlight why this movie works.

This movie works because it's an earnest full-bodied adventure that captures the tone and flavor of gaming as escapism, and doesn't cut corners with its storytelling. You get to know who everyone is, what they want, and why. They all have rational reasons for doing what they do, and these motivations keep them grounded and on track in the spectacle to come. In spite of appearances, RPO doesn't use nostalgia as a crutch at all. It doesn't trip itself up with forced references like I expected. All of the references are there because of course that's how a virtual world would look, with people picking avatars from their favorite games and movies. RPO doesn't smash you over the head with these things, it shows people who love pop culture enjoying pop culture in a boundless digital playground. The film accesses nostalgia by showing other people's experiences and nostalgic memories in ways that we the audience can relate to. I must say, this movie plays to Spielberg's strengths. I doubted he still had it in him.

How about that Shining sequence? It's the definition of a nostalgic episode done right. What an absolute joy to delve into that world with no warning. I can still hear my audience's scattered chuckles of recognition and anticipation as the characters walked down those stairs. I was in disbelief. I was like, is this movie seriously doing a deep dive into a lovingly recreated horror classic right now? And it kept getting better after they approached the typewriter. The twins, that spectacular flood... I couldn't believe Spielberg and co. brought back the bath lady in all her grotesque glory. The whole thing was pure magic.

The Shining sequence is easily the highlight of this movie for me, but I think the very first big setpiece, the race, illustrates how RPO avoids its potential fate as a leaden special effects bonanza that leaves you feeling hollow, and instead shapes itself into a warm, inventive, hopeful adventure story that makes an unabashed grab for the heart. The race proceeds as a big and loud, dense and fast-moving spectacle. It's a dynamic and well put-together scene that succeeds in raising your heart rate. And that could have been all it did. Instead, Spielberg interweaves solid character building. You get to know what kind of guy Wade is. He's got skills and know-how, and the scrappy instincts to work a side hustle during this intense challenge, scooping up the lost coins of wrecked players. More importantly, he has a noble streak, which leads him to make the split-second choice to save a rival, who becomes a friend.

On top of this crisply executed character stuff, which imposes no dragging effect on the thrills of the scene and works as an effective intro to the protagonists you're going to spend the next 2+ hours with, here's my favorite bit: you get a really neat and satisfying look at the same setpiece from behind (or more correctly, underneath) the curtain; the race playing out once more as Wade speeds in reverse through a kind of backstage basement space that lets him look up through the track above like a two-way mirror and see the various obstacles and hazards sent up to cause another round of the mayhem he recently survived. It's an awesome, hugely entertaining twist on what might have been a by-the-numbers action scene.

I don't know how closely the movie follows this book, and how much of a hand Steven Spielberg really had in the things I credited him for, but RPO is a marvelous adaptation regardless. A real feast for the senses, with a surprisingly robust plot. I'm glad I was wrong about this one.
 
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chairhome

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Oct 27, 2017
3,632
Orlando
It wasn't just going backwards, but doing it stupid fast into an apparent wall--in a universe where you lose everything if you die. This bothered me too until I remembered the stakes at hand (though I suppose someone already at Level 1 would have no such hesitations...)
Honestly I thought of it this way: Halliday is a gamer, and this was basically a cheat code that you had to find out in order to beat the level. Its a reward for following the clues.
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Anyone know what language is used when they use the Orb of Osuvox? My wife thought dothraki. She said in the manual that Samantha looks at, the first word is "anal"... obviously not pronounced that way

And Krull Glaive was a pretty awesome cameo. I am the only one in my circle who really knows where its from though, haha
 

Rendering...

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Oct 30, 2017
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Spielberg just took every wannabe blockbuster director making $100m+ shit to school. This guy is 71 and is blocking these scenes with more energy, creativity and verve than anybody else operating at the same level right now. Haven't been that wowed by the flawless staging of action setpieces since Fury Road. The film is also pure, geeky, popcorn fun. And it's more than its winks and nods, though it certainly has its lion's share of them.

As an aside, this film in 60 seconds had a more exciting and fun Mecha/Robot fight than Bay or anybody has been able to film across 5 films. I've never watched Gundam, but that shit was dope.
Hell yes, preach it.
 

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Spielberg reminded the world he is the greatest action director of all time (alongside James Cameron) with RPO. Dude is is a god damned genius when it comes to action set pieces.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I don't know how closely the movie follows this book, and how much of a hand Steven Spielberg really had in the things I credited him for, but RPO is a marvelous adaptation regardless. A real feast for the senses, with a surprisingly robust plot. I'm glad I was wrong about this one.

The script takes the premise and basic structure of the book and throws the rest out.

There's no race in the book. It's been a while since I read it but I believe the first key--or getting to the first key--was achieving the high score in Joust. Not some Oasis flying-ostrich version of Joust. Playing the actual arcade game Joust.

The analagous scene for The Shining sequence in the book is Wade having to act out a scene from Wargames line by line.
 

ElBoxy

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Oct 25, 2017
14,135
I'm sure Wade and Sam's relationship was way worse in the book but I still think the movie falls into some traps with portraying that relationship.
 

Wollan

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Oct 25, 2017
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Could you tell me what Halo related stuff/events happen? I'm a huge Halo nerd but idk if I'm seeing the film yet.
You see a bunch of kids running through the street irl and then you see a bunch of Master Chiefs/Spartans doing 1:1 in the Oasis. The Halo logo with some purchasable article is in the front alongside Blizzard in one of the Oasis stores. Both these scenes are glimpsed in the trailer.
There's also a scene where they use the rocket launcher from Halo I seem to remember.

The IP references that are probably most extensively used are:
- Gundam
- Mecha Godzilla
- Iron Giant
- The Shining (Overlook hotel)
- DeLorean (Back to the Future)
- Akira motorbike
- The Holy Hand-grenade (Monthy Python)

There's a hundred other references which requires repeat viewing / pause-function / guide to see 100%.
 
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Pilgrimzero

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,129
The script takes the premise and basic structure of the book and throws the rest out.

There's no race in the book. It's been a while since I read it but I believe the first key--or getting to the first key--was achieving the high score in Joust. Not some Oasis flying-ostrich version of Joust. Playing the actual arcade game Joust.

The analagous scene for The Shining sequence in the book is Wade having to act out a scene from Wargames line by line.

First key is going through The Tomb of Horrors and then beating a Lich in the Joust arcade game.

But there are secondary puzzles to the keys via the gates. So really it's 6 challenges to win the egg, not 3.

But yeah he Movie is 99% different.
 

chairhome

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Oct 27, 2017
3,632
Orlando
Does anyone know what song they danced to in the club?
Stayin' Alive by the Bee Gees. Or are you talking about before he changes it?

Other less obvious easter eggs I saw (I'll be using movie pass to comb through this movie):
- Goldie Wilson for Mayor: Campaign poster is seen to the upper left of the mirror in Aech's basement when Parzival is deciding what to wear to the club
- Sonic in the final battle: As they fly over the battle, you see a blue spinning ball in the air that does a homing attack
- Pulse Rifle from Aliens: In The Distracted Globe, this is Art3mis's first weapon
- Gracie from BTiLC: Pretty sure I saw someone's avatar in the Distracted Globe and during the final battle as this:
257a91fcb4daf4df3932806c1e57f343.jpg
 

Ethan Hutn

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Jan 20, 2018
637
Stayin' Alive by the Bee Gees. Or are you talking about before he changes it?

Other less obvious easter eggs I saw (I'll be using movie pass to comb through this movie):
- Goldie Wilson for Mayor: Campaign poster is seen to the upper left of the mirror in Aech's basement when Parzival is deciding what to wear to the club
- Sonic in the final battle: As they fly over the battle, you see a blue spinning ball in the air that does a homing attack
- Pulse Rifle from Aliens: In The Distracted Globe, this is Art3mis's first weapon
- Gracie from BTiLC: Pretty sure I saw someone's avatar in the Distracted Globe and during the final battle as this:
257a91fcb4daf4df3932806c1e57f343.jpg
Thats the one! Cheers mate. That scene was surprisingly good.
 

Pilgrimzero

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
8,129
Both soundtracks are out on ITunes.

One being the instrumental music the other the licensed songs.

Surprisingly, Take On Me and Jump aren't on it.

The rest of is great!
 

BLLYjoe25

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,969
Just got back from seeing it. It was a decent fun movie but very different from the book. They pretty much just took the book and basic plot then changed everything else.

I kinda want a sequel. Hopefully when the book sequel comes out that gets a movie adaptation too.
 

Cation

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
3,603
Lol this movie was so disappointing! It was a regular movie with lots of references to video game culture. The coolest part was where they went into the Shinning. Now that was true immersion rather than "making references"
If the whole movie was like that - I would have appreciated it more
 

Remedy

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Oct 29, 2017
278
Lol this movie was so disappointing! It was a regular movie with lots of references to video game culture. The coolest part was where they went into the Shinning. Now that was true immersion rather than "making references"
If the whole movie was like that - I would have appreciated it more
Good way not to get sued.