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Why is Rogue Legacy's follow-up considered a 'pretty massive failure?' (Full Metal Furies)
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I dunno, it rolls off the tongue better, and avoids the misreading. Doesn't it have some disco-style aesthetics anyway?
It never seems to have gathered much interest and for a good reason. It's hard to get excited about sidescrolling beatem-ups these days.
Anyway, looking at Steamspy it sold 17K in two months, if it did similiarly well on Xbox One then those are pretty good numbers for indie dev. Looks like they didn't scale the budget to game's potential. Rogue Legacy sold over 1,3 mln on Steam alone. That's not the scale of success you can expect from side scrolling beatem-up. Especially since they intentionally hid the very thing that made it stood out from the rest of the genre (which was fricking ridiculous)
Anyway, looking at Steamspy it sold 17K in two months, if it did similiarly well on Xbox One then those are pretty good numbers for indie dev. Looks like they didn't scale the budget to game's potential. Rogue Legacy sold over 1,3 mln on Steam alone. That's not the scale of success you can expect from side scrolling beatem-up. Especially since they intentionally hid the very thing that made it stood out from the rest of the genre (which was fricking ridiculous)
Rogue Legacy was very pick up and play. FMF was not, it had a lot more story which broke up the flow of the actual gameplay and apparently a lot of folks did not want that.
Personally I found the whole thing to be rather dull, it didn't have the omph a beat'em up needs, fighting felt, dull.
Personally I found the whole thing to be rather dull, it didn't have the omph a beat'em up needs, fighting felt, dull.
I'm also in the "Never heard of the game" group. But I also really don't care for brawlers so maybe that's why.
I've played it with a friend of mine for a number of hours. Had zero networks problems as well, so I guess we jumped in at the right point. It's fun and designed around co-op in some clever ways. I kind of wish it had more equipment, abilites and just... variation in general though.
And the pacing of the game is frequently interrupted by story sequences. Which is the worst part of the game by far, 'cause the characters and writing are reeeeally not my cup of tea. It tries to be funny a lot, and almost always fails. Eventually it just got annoying.
And the pacing of the game is frequently interrupted by story sequences. Which is the worst part of the game by far, 'cause the characters and writing are reeeeally not my cup of tea. It tries to be funny a lot, and almost always fails. Eventually it just got annoying.
I don't think it's bad but No Truce With The Furies is so much better. That's a legitimately awesome name.
Kind of reminds me of the Sexy Brutale.
God what an awesome game, and what a crap title.
Yeah... This is how I feel how most people interpretered the game just by reading the title as Furries. Thought it was a furry game until I heard it was develoed by the people who made Rouge Legacy.It's because the title makes it sound like it's about this:
It's literally the first time i heard about this game being a failure.
Rogue Legacy is one of my favorite games and FMF is on my radar, but there's this huge backlog thing on pc and all, so i will get this eventually.
That said, a story driven beat'em up with RPG elements is pretty risky as a game design structure. I'm far more interested in this because it's from RL's dev than on the premise.
Rogue Legacy is one of my favorite games and FMF is on my radar, but there's this huge backlog thing on pc and all, so i will get this eventually.
That said, a story driven beat'em up with RPG elements is pretty risky as a game design structure. I'm far more interested in this because it's from RL's dev than on the premise.
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Still waiting on Rogue Legacy 2
It has some serious potential but they ignore it and it sucks because RL could be freaking AMAZBALLS.
It has some serious potential but they ignore it and it sucks because RL could be freaking AMAZBALLS.
Same here. I love RL so much and was bummed when they said they weren't interested in making a sequel to it. I just can't hang with roguelikes, but rogueLITES feel like they were made for me. RL was the cream of the crop personally.
This thread is the first of me hearing about this game and I don't know how I feel about that.
I feel like they should have been smart and followed up the massive success of Rogue Legacy with a sequel. Mostly the same gameplay but with new weapons/skills/characters/enemies and a brand new map and bosses. It would have been quicker, put more money in the bank, and then let them branch out after having a 2nd quality game in the bag. I was so excited about what they were making...until I saw it. Rogue Legacy is one of my favorite Vita games.
It's not at all bad (been playing it off and on since release).
It's more fun 4player to be fair, but solo is still great.
EDIT: my point was isingle player is clearly not an afterthought
Same here. I've seen the game while browsing the stores, I think it's on sale on Xbox Live right now (?), but I had no idea this was a game made by the same people, or that the people that made Rogue Legacy even made another game!
I wouldn't say I was a fan of Rogue Legacy, but I played it... a lot and might've given this game more than a glance if I had known.
Wow, I'd literally never heard of it before this thread. I was just wondering what the Rogue Legacy team was up to. That's too bad.
Like a lot of people, I loved Rogue Legacy but had never heard of this game before.
I'm not a huge fan of the genre of this and the name doesn't help matters. Make a RL2 and id play that
I'm not a huge fan of the genre of this and the name doesn't help matters. Make a RL2 and id play that
This is way more like Golden Axe with permanent stat/item upgrades
I actually always wanted to play this, but I don't game on the platforms it released on. Sucks that it bombed, I was hoping it would come to PS4 or Switch, but also it must be soul crushing for the devs.
I think a Rogue Legacy port to Switch probably would have made more money.
This game's art style looks a lot less interesting, it wasn't marketed with the same effectiveness, and it's not in a genre that gets a lot of wide attention. Personally, I really dislike brawlers and would never play one. I've also never really heard of an indie brawler doing well in quite a while. Hope they can recover from this.
This game's art style looks a lot less interesting, it wasn't marketed with the same effectiveness, and it's not in a genre that gets a lot of wide attention. Personally, I really dislike brawlers and would never play one. I've also never really heard of an indie brawler doing well in quite a while. Hope they can recover from this.
I just went and to google Full Metal Fury, to see if it was being used as it's a different name and I clocked this...
This isn't the first time I have seen this being asked on the steam forums, wonder how relevant it is to sales?
Worth mentioning it's currently on sale at the moment on Xbox One.
This isn't the first time I have seen this being asked on the steam forums, wonder how relevant it is to sales?
Worth mentioning it's currently on sale at the moment on Xbox One.
Published by MS Studios if i'm not wrong.
Or partly funded? There's some exclusivity stuff with MS...
They really missed Switch's momentum unfortunately
This is the "we made a game and it didn't sell!" phase of the marketing campaign.
(Not to be overly cynical, but this sort of thing seems to happen a lot and the games usually rebound soon after stories start hitting about how they flopped. I doubt the devs or publishers would actually plan for this outcome, if they did it would just be a reactionary opportunistic thing ).
(Not to be overly cynical, but this sort of thing seems to happen a lot and the games usually rebound soon after stories start hitting about how they flopped. I doubt the devs or publishers would actually plan for this outcome, if they did it would just be a reactionary opportunistic thing ).
Yeah, i've read simular stories a view times here.
I would be shocked it it wouldn't lead to at least a few more sales.
Bot i dont think this works as a "marketing" phase if there is not imidiatly
a relaunch with a bigger update and new reviews/article/sale.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furies
i guess you have to know your audience. "furies" apparently looks and sounds (?) close enough to "furries" that it scares people away, including about a dozen people in this thread.
kind of like how people with a poor grasp of english might think you're racist if you use words like "snigger" or "niggardly" even when contextually appropriate
so developers take heed when using homophones, homonyms, or homographs in your game titles...
i guess you have to know your audience. "furies" apparently looks and sounds (?) close enough to "furries" that it scares people away, including about a dozen people in this thread.
kind of like how people with a poor grasp of english might think you're racist if you use words like "snigger" or "niggardly" even when contextually appropriate
so developers take heed when using homophones, homonyms, or homographs in your game titles...
Game isn't so good for single play as you are required to switch between two characters if you are solo. The game is built around multiplayer and is so much fun couch co-op. Unfortunately, the online multiplayer was horrible when I tried it. I don't believe you can even match with randoms on Xbox only invite friends. I tried to play Cross play between Xbox and PC with my cousin and couldn't get it to work. Very disappointing. The bad word of mouth about the netcode and connection issues really turned a lot of people away from this game which is a shame since it is really fun and had very well written hilarious dialogue.
I thought Rogue Legacy was an absolute chore to play compared to its compatriots like Spelunky and Downwell, and more from the same people didn't make me enthused at all.
People are asking this pretty much everywhere for any game tho. I feel people are generally HUGELY annoyed by some very public stories.
Read the article and you'll figure out that it's because less than 10 critics even reviewed the game
Isn't the problem a little bit with the platforms they chose? If this would be on Switch it would sell a shit ton of copies.
Sad to see as it looks like a really cool game.
Sad to see as it looks like a really cool game.
It is actually not fair to say that at all. By which I mean, it's utterly wrong.
I'd have to imagine the problem was due in part to launching on Xbox rather than PS4. I saw virtually no hype or marketing on it the way I saw people get excited when Rogue Legacy came to PS3/Vita.
I'm not sure how the PC people missed it though.
I'm not sure how the PC people missed it though.
Not to ruin it (but I guess I am going to anyway), but the devs are 100% aware of the name being misread, and make light of it in-game.
I think it's more there was no advertising. Look at the full release lists month to month on ps4 and xb, and you probably haven't ever heard of 30% of those games or more.
This is just a case, again, of a gem getting a short shrift.