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Why is Rogue Legacy's follow-up considered a 'pretty massive failure?' (Full Metal Furies)

chubigans

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Thought this deserved its own topic. A look from the devs at their new game Full Metal Furies, why it didn't connect with audiences or reviewers, how it hasn't broke even yet, and why implementing online features delayed it two years: https://www.destructoid.com/why-is-...idered-a-pretty-massive-failure--487156.phtml

Note that this interview took place in January and is just now being posted.

As for Full Metal Furies being a failure? I mean I'm proud of the game, I really am. I really do think it's something special, but then again, I'm pretty biased. :)

But yeah, the game is still a pretty massive failure. A lot of people had their hopes and dreams tied up in this game, and we failed to connect with the critics, we failed technically with the public, and we failed as a company to break even. In a few weeks, FMF is on trajectory to sell less then Rogue Legacy daily, so I think there's a point where one's personal opinions are outweighed by the commercial reality. We've got a big patch coming through soon*, but I'm not sure if it's too late for second chances.
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I enjoyed my time with the game and found the puzzles to get in the way of the fun combat, so yeah, I can see where they're coming from. Man, this is so sad though. Game deserved to do better.

Available on Steam and XB1: http://store.steampowered.com/app/416600/Full_Metal_Furies/

UPDATE: announced for Nintendo Switch!

 
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aett

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I loved Rogue Legacy and bought it on both PC and PS4 (and would probably buy it again on Switch) but this is literally the first time I have ever heard of Full Metal Furies.
 
Ishmae1

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I'm saddened to hear this. I love the game, but the puzzle aspects were likely not for everyone (and they were necessary to finish it). Played it to completion in co-op with my son and went back for more.
 
Instro

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I only vaguely remember it being announced, and certainly was not aware it had released. So definitely something went awry there. It's probably also fair to say that Rogue Legacy is really not an exceptional game so there's not much there for an unknown developer to hang their hat on in trying to gain support for a new game.
 
Flarin

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Rogue Legacy is one of the best rogue-likes of all time and this just looked like a generic beat-em-up with pixel graphics. At least that was my impression upon watching the reveal trailer.
I think a lot of people would have preferred Rogue Legacy 2. As someone that got the platinum and has that game as one of my favorite games ever, I that's what I wanted from them. I think they'd be wise to make that their next project.
 
DNAbro

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Instro said:
I only vaguely remember it being announced, and certainly was not aware it had released. So definitely something went awry there. It's probably also fair to say that Rogue Legacy is really not an exceptional game so there's not much there for an unknown developer to hang their hat on in trying to gain support for a new game.
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Didn't Rogue Legacy do well though?



Huge shame cause it's definitely one of my fav games of the year. I think there was a huge marketing issue considering I never heard of the game until it released.
 
Instro

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Oh yeah the title is probably terrible because I'm sure a lot of people would think furry almost immediately. Maybe they should see about getting it to the Switch, still a pretty open market there in terms of discovering games.
 
jett

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I didn't know they had even made another game. I guess it slipped through the cracks.
 
Doorakz

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Sounds like this title was not marketed well at all. I never knew it existed. Were they just assuming due to Rogue Legacy's success consumers would just line up to buy their next game?
 

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aett said:
I loved Rogue Legacy and bought it on both PC and PS4 (and would probably buy it again on Switch) but this is literally the first time I have ever heard of Full Metal Furies.
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This.

Also, at first glance, the name sounded like something that's definitely not for me. Then I realized it's one r shy.
 
aerie

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I really enjoyed Rogue Legacy and this is the first I've heard of this title, will look into it.
 
Lithium Flower

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Well, it's a pretty awful name. Never bothered looking into it based on the title alone. Assumed it was an RTS of some sort.
 
sredgrin

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Co-op focus is what turned me off. And I say that as someone that loved RL and was aware of the game coming out.

Not as easy to convince friends to buy an unknown quantity, less idea of long term support or longevity in general, etc.

Indie success is rare, but it seems like co-op focused ones are even rarer.
 
Wizzly

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I never heard of that game.
It looks like a multi player game first, i'm not sure the solo is good enough unlike their previous game.
 
leafcutter

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Add another to the "loved Rogue Legacy but never heard of this game" list.

Definitely sounds like a failure in marketing.
 

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I had no idea this game was out, nor did I know it was made by the Rouge Legacy guys. And yes .I kept reading it as furries everytimei saw the name.
 
apieceofstrange

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In the last thread on this game, tons of people were turned off by the fact it was a "beat em up" even though it's really nothing like that at all (at least not in the traditional sense)

I thought the game was a pretty alright coop experience. The writing and attempts at humor are ultra cringe worthy though.

I liked it better than Rogue Legacy for what it's worth.
 
Daniel Westlake

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I saw it once then forgot it existed. Nothing about it stood out as anything more than a random decent looking four player beat em up.
I thought the characters seemed cool then moved on.
 
karkii

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I... honestly didn't even know this was out O.o

I mean I have heard about the game multiple times but somehow I missed that it's out already.
 
Dash Kappei

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I only remember the game when I read the title because I always mistaken it for "furries". Otherwise didn't know it launched nor I remember how it looks like.
Change the frickin' title. A little marketing relaunching the game when coming out on Switch and PS4 at the same time. Not too late at least to do better. Rogue Legacy is a very well known game, while Furries has zero presence on message boards even as a niche release.
 
VirtuaModel

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Started this on 4-player local co-op recently and we all are enjoying it so far. It's a nice departure from the usual party-type games we play.
 
Daniel Westlake

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But also Rogue Legacy was like this super polished good looking really accessible game that still had some immediately evident depth to it. And it hit in a time before we got a lot of the roguelite(?) games.
 
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