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Vilix

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Oct 25, 2017
6,055
Texas
Every so often I get disconnected from the game during a fight. Or I fail to join someone's session even though there's room. I'm not the only one. It's happened to a friend I play with. It's rare.

Does this happen to anyone else on PSN or XBL?
 

impact

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
5,380
Tampa
Every so often I get disconnected from the game during a fight. Or I fail to join someone's session even though there's room. I'm not the only one. It's happened to a friend I play with. It's rare.

Does this happen to anyone else on PSN or XBL?
Happens to me too on PSN, but I just assume it's Comcast being the worst.
 

Vuze

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Oct 25, 2017
4,186
When you guys say "abandon the investigation if it isn't a crown monster," that wastes the investigation, right? You don't get the try back?

I'm about 10 crowns away from the trophy, and I'll be looking to save some time with tactics like this soon.
Yeah, your investigation is gone the second you post it to the board. Sucks but it is what it is.
Re crowns, I'd be interested if the sizes are predetermined like melds (= same crown sizes in the same order when you restore the save). Anyone got info on that?
 
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The thing I hate the most with this game are all these dragging animations that interrupt what you want to do. They are for the most part completely invisible which makes it very confusing most of the time. The character just stands still when try to take drink the potion, but nothing happens because the game thinks you are in an active animation that doesn't allow for drinking the potion. I'm in the habit of spamming every action like 10 times now to avoid this crap and it's not fun what so ever.
 

chasingclouds

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Jan 5, 2018
522
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When you guys say "abandon the investigation if it isn't a crown monster," that wastes the investigation, right? You don't get the try back?

I'm about 10 crowns away from the trophy, and I'll be looking to save some time with tactics like this soon.

That's right. You won't get quest rewards, but you keep an research points you've accumulated, materials gathered, and if you've had a pop at it and broken bits off you get to keep any bits you pick up. Basically you just don't get any rewards for completing the investigation - and one of your investigation tries is permanently used up. I don't do it with any tempered investigations so I don't waste them, but I burn through all my others, it's far faster than killing every one.
 

Gamer @ Heart

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Oct 26, 2017
9,547
That's right. You won't get quest rewards, but you keep an research points you've accumulated, materials gathered, and if you've had a pop at it and broken bits off you get to keep any bits you pick up. Basically you just don't get any rewards for completing the investigation - and one of your investigation tries is permanently used up. I don't do it with any tempered investigations so I don't waste them, but I burn through all my others, it's far faster than killing every one.

This basic involves eyeballing it right? There is no way to tell before you kill it?
 

Doc Kelso

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Oct 25, 2017
5,157
NYC
Is there a relatively quick way to grind out HR? I'm at HR40 and I'd like to hit 49 so I can really start working on builds. As it stands I'm using a fairly generic build that doesn't particularly excel at anything.
 
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Omg, I don't think I've ever been so close to defeating Kirin. 20 minutes of fighting and he was down to his last breath, but then some clown with a bow jumped into the game and died too many times so I failed. I sadly didn't think about making it a solo game.

This is probably the only game I've ever played where it's actually more difficult to get help from other players. It just invites disaster most of the time.
 

chasingclouds

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Jan 5, 2018
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This basic involves eyeballing it right? There is no way to tell before you kill it?

Depends on the monster. I always use my hunter measured against them rather than just if it looks big, as some can look huge but aren't, I don't trust my eyes! I've only got giant Teo left to get now but he isn't coming!

Some I found easy to gauge - like Vaal Hazaak is easy - when he exits the blue water he presents his left leg and stands still a minute. If you can stand completely under his left leg and there's space above your head under his leg - that's a giant gold. If your head is level with the top of his leg bend, that's a mini crown. If your head is in between - it's not a crown so quit out. It's a very obvious measurement. After a couple it becomes more obvious when you stand in the same place that they're bigger or smaller than average. As an example I've killed just 8 Vaal Hazaaks and I have both gold crowns, but I quit out of maybe 35+ investigations because he was the wrong size.

I usually use the Palico shock trap to shock a monster and then measure against its back left leg while it's in the trap. It's free, quick, and takes a lot of the guesswork out of it. Some like Dodogama though, I just never got an eye for at all, I never found a good place to measure and ended up killing 67 of the bastards to get the crowns!

I have also YouTube'd crown videos and screenshot a rough size guide for myself as a starting point.
 

chasingclouds

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Jan 5, 2018
522
England, U.K.
Yeah, your investigation is gone the second you post it to the board. Sucks but it is what it is.
Re crowns, I'd be interested if the sizes are predetermined like melds (= same crown sizes in the same order when you restore the save). Anyone got info on that?

Someone on PSN profiles said they ran out of investigations so kept reloading their cloud save to reuse them, and eventually got the crowns doing that, so going off that wouldn't that mean. the crowns are randomised at the start of each investigation, not predetermined?
 

ClearMetal

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Oct 25, 2017
15,276
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I couldn't resist buying this.

Did a Tempered Vaal Hazak hunt and he has such a weird attack. It has been mentioned here before, but it looks like he turns around... and he one-shots you. Somehow. No miasma blast, no tail sweep, no head sweep; you're standing near his hind legs, he turns around and, since he's tempered, you're dead.

I could affort the faint, but I'm going to stay away from investigations that don't allow at least one cart.

The thing I hate the most with this game are all these dragging animations that interrupt what you want to do. They are for the most part completely invisible which makes it very confusing most of the time. The character just stands still when try to take drink the potion, but nothing happens because the game thinks you are in an active animation that doesn't allow for drinking the potion. I'm in the habit of spamming every action like 10 times now to avoid this crap and it's not fun what so ever.
Seconding this. I actually swapped controllers yesterday, just to make sure my controller wasn't faulty. I've carted dozens of times just because the game seemingly failed to register my inputs.

I also hate those long-winded animations for some things. Like gathering tracks. Your character kneels, gathers the track, gets up again, takes a sniff and even then there's still this second-long-but-feels-like-an-eternity moment of them finishing the entire animation and becoming controllable again.
 
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I couldn't resist buying this.

Did a Tempered Vaal Hazak hunt and he has such a weird attack. It has been mentioned here before, but it looks like he turns around... and he one-shots you. Somehow. No miasma blast, no tail sweep, no head sweep; you're standing near his hind legs, he turns around and, since he's tempered, you're dead.

I could affort the faint, but I'm going to stay away from investigations that don't allow at least one cart.


Seconding this. I actually swapped controllers yesterday, just to make sure my controller wasn't faulty. I've carted dozens of times just because the game seemingly failed to register my inputs.

I also hate those long-winded animations for some things. Like gathering tracks. Your character kneels, gathers the track, gets up again, takes a sniff and even then there's still this second-long-but-feels-like-an-eternity moment of them finishing the entire animation and becoming controllable again.

I wish that there at least was a setting where you could have a slight delay on button presses. So even if you're not out of the animation the button press will still carry over for when you are ready to do the action. This is something that many other games have implemented and I would love to see this here as well. As an option then ofc, because I completely understand that it's not something that everyone would want.
 

Sev

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Oct 27, 2017
422
I hit the exact wall I was expecting to hit with Kirin. Literally the worst monster in the entire series, at least without going into sub-species and whatnot. I think I'm just gonna happily stay at HR49.
 

KanameYuuki

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Dec 23, 2017
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I hit the exact wall I was expecting to hit with Kirin. Literally the worst monster in the entire series, at least without going into sub-species and whatnot. I think I'm just gonna happily stay at HR49.

Besides using the thunderproof mantle the best advice there is and will ever be for Kirin is slow down your gameplay, Don't get greedy at all at any time, if you can hit it once that's more than enough, way until it cast whatever atk it does and attack afterwards, be reactionary and check for openings, if it is not casting a thunder somewhere else, don't try to attack.
 

MatrixMan.exe

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's actually kind of shocking at how low the drop rate is for streamstones other than the bog standard ones. I mean, shit, am I doing something wrong? I haven't managed to unlock any Tempered Elder Dragon quests yet which doesn't help either.
 

chasingclouds

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It's actually kind of shocking at how low the drop rate is for streamstones other than the bog standard ones. I mean, shit, am I doing something wrong? I haven't managed to unlock any Tempered Elder Dragon quests yet which doesn't help either.

The current event up if you are HR50 I think it is, is for finding blue Beryl's at the elder recess - the place is crammed with tempered elder tracks and you pick up loads of tempered elder investigations by repeatedly doing the event.

Also the current tempered Deviljho event seems to have a guaranteed streamstone drop. But he's too hard for me tempered, I can't do it
 

Larrikin

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Oct 25, 2017
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I know that this is Monster Hunter but I've fought 8 Deviljhos today and only need a single Tallfang and it just won't freaking happen.
 

xEik

The Fallen
Nov 17, 2017
4,422
Principality of Catalonia
So I finally stopped procrastinating and did the Tempered Kirin quest because this week there's two events that require HR50.
Having read all the horror stories I went solo and overprepared afraid that it would be a OHKO fest.
10 minutes later and with the help of your friendly neighbours, the Gajalakas, it was already limping.

I was slightly disappointed. Jumped to HR 72.
 

Bessy67

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Oct 29, 2017
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The current event up if you are HR50 I think it is, is for finding blue Beryl's at the elder recess - the place is crammed with tempered elder tracks and you pick up loads of tempered elder investigations by repeatedly doing the event.

Also the current tempered Deviljho event seems to have a guaranteed streamstone drop. But he's too hard for me tempered, I can't do it
You're definitely not guaranteed to get streamstones from tempered Deviljiho. I've done it 3 times and not gotten any. It probably is the best way to get them though.
 

MatrixMan.exe

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Oct 25, 2017
9,499
The current event up if you are HR50 I think it is, is for finding blue Beryl's at the elder recess - the place is crammed with tempered elder tracks and you pick up loads of tempered elder investigations by repeatedly doing the event.

Also the current tempered Deviljho event seems to have a guaranteed streamstone drop. But he's too hard for me tempered, I can't do it

That event quest is working a treat. Deviljho though...I think I'll pass for now. Got fucked up by a Tempered Black Diablos earlier. Can't see that going well for me.
 

Sev

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Oct 27, 2017
422
Besides using the thunderproof mantle the best advice there is and will ever be for Kirin is slow down your gameplay, Don't get greedy at all at any time, if you can hit it once that's more than enough, way until it cast whatever atk it does and attack afterwards, be reactionary and check for openings, if it is not casting a thunder somewhere else, don't try to attack.

I'm torn between going for a hit-and-run approach with the CB's axe mode, or stick to the HBG, but even it's hard to see some of its attacks coming. I'll try getting the thunderproof mantle, though. I was dodging every attack, since its lightning was a OHKO/short of a OHKO even with high thunder res.
 

Imperfected

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I couldn't resist buying this.

Did a Tempered Vaal Hazak hunt and he has such a weird attack. It has been mentioned here before, but it looks like he turns around... and he one-shots you. Somehow. No miasma blast, no tail sweep, no head sweep; you're standing near his hind legs, he turns around and, since he's tempered, you're dead.

His tailsweep is a two-part attack: he drags it along the ground on startup knocking everything behind him back and doing modest damage, then he turns and whips it completely around the other side of his body in a quick snap in a hit that does twice as much.

If you're not catching the second half of that (which is very fast and much harder to notice), I don't know what to tell you. I've fought him 100 times (literally) and never had an invisible attack, aside from the goofy push-out with minor damage when you're under him during a roar.
 

Larrikin

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Oct 25, 2017
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Same situation except I neeeeed saliva! To make things worse I am actually really quite bad at killing it too, I can't seem to get to grips with it's movement patterns.
I've got more saliva than I know what to do with hahaha. Got my Palico using the Plunderblade, dude drops Saliva like nobody's business. I think I have like, 15-40 of every other material, a couple of gems, but no Tallfangs. It's ridiculous.
 

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Before bed tonight I tried to get used to the horn for a support build, but I just didn't find it fun. It was useful to put up earplugs, but it's a bit janky memorising the songs lol.

I'll probably ditch it, but I'll give it some more tries this week. I've read sword and shield can be made into a good support build too.

Almost at HR 50 as well.
 
Jan 10, 2018
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On the way to complete my ultimate tank set. I don't have all the decorations I want yet but the most important parts are in place. Currently I can completely withstand roars, stuns, knockbacks and unique monster attacks and I also have some resistance against tremors. I feel kinda like this:

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Irrotational

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Well, I tried devilly Joe several times with randoms, and it was cart city. To test it tonight I tried a solo run with my newer lbg set... I really struggled, getting caught mid roll everywhere.

Switched back to my original gun lance set and took him down fairly easily. Totally night and day difference. Guard his attack, slash, guard his attack, slash... Repeat for 25 minutes and pre tranq him when sleeping for an easy capture. After all those tries and all that time, I got sod all for it :) was expecting a hero stone.
 
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Before bed tonight I tried to get used to the horn for a support build, but I just didn't find it fun. It was useful to put up earplugs, but it's a bit janky memorising the songs lol.

I'll probably ditch it, but I'll give it some more tries this week. I've read sword and shield can be made into a good support build too.

Almost at HR 50 as well.
Sword and shield is easier to support in many ways, but don't think that you have to support using those weapons. I use them for damage!
 

empty feat

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Oct 29, 2017
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Daora is just a really shitty fight, isn't it? Trying to grind out horns and tails but he is just straight up unfun. It's not that he's any trouble, but you're either constantly flashing or waiting for him to calm tf down. Three wind jewels doesn't seem to make any difference.
 

ClearMetal

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His tailsweep is a two-part attack: he drags it along the ground on startup knocking everything behind him back and doing modest damage, then he turns and whips it completely around the other side of his body in a quick snap in a hit that does twice as much.

If you're not catching the second half of that (which is very fast and much harder to notice), I don't know what to tell you. I've fought him 100 times (literally) and never had an invisible attack, aside from the goofy push-out with minor damage when you're under him during a roar.
I tried to recall what happened immediately before I fainted, but I don't remember aside from getting hounded by those shitty Raphinos while I was attacking Vaal. I did not know his tail sweep was a two-part attack however. Likely because I'm usually either at a safe distance to completely avoid it or I get knocked out of the way of the second attack when it does hit me.

So it's a definite possibility that may have been it.

I will keep my eyes open for it in future encounters. Thanks!
 

Imperfected

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Nov 9, 2017
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Likely because I'm usually either at a safe distance to completely avoid it or I get knocked out of the way of the second attack when it does hit me.

It's pretty deceptive, I've actually been swept back by the earliest portion of the attack, gotten up, and rolled myself right back into the second part. It's also really easy to eat the second part if you successfully Foresight Slash the first half and go for the follow-up roundslash, since the second half takes so long to come around that you've lost your defense by that point. And to just see the tail drag by, think it's safe, and run straight into the second part trying to punish the opening.

acmshar: I use decorations, personally.
 

Jester37

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Daora is just a really shitty fight, isn't it? Trying to grind out horns and tails but he is just straight up unfun. It's not that he's any trouble, but you're either constantly flashing or waiting for him to calm tf down. Three wind jewels doesn't seem to make any difference.
Yeah Daora is not a very interesting hunt. My biggest issue with Daora is it DOESN'T SHUT THE HELL UP. It has to roar every 30 seconds to a minute and gets follow up attacks that can do some severe damage (especially if tempered). I do like it's theme though.
 

acmshar

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Nov 26, 2017
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Vaal Hazak pants + one Miasma Jewel slotted into it. That gives you full immunity to the "halved HP" status effect. Do note this doesn't protect you from the normal effluvia chip damage.

It's pretty deceptive, I've actually been swept back by the earliest portion of the attack, gotten up, and rolled myself right back into the second part. It's also really easy to eat the second part if you successfully Foresight Slash the first half and go for the follow-up roundslash, since the second half takes so long to come around that you've lost your defense by that point. And to just see the tail drag by, think it's safe, and run straight into the second part trying to punish the opening.

acmshar: I use decorations, personally.
Thanks, I'll look into those pants. And I think I have several of those gems (and not a lot of other good ones anyway). The chip damage is fine, I just get worried with my bar that small.

I stay at his side, giving him a wide berth. I also stay back at camp staying out of other hunters way. Don't judge me. I do a lot for the team. I bake cookies, and above all I don't die.

hahaha
 

Imperfected

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Yeah Daora is not a very interesting hunt. My biggest issue with Daora is it DOESN'T SHUT THE HELL UP. It has to roar every 30 seconds to a minute and gets follow up attacks that can do some severe damage (especially if tempered). I do like it's theme though.

They really need to add a cooldown on Elder Dragons raising their auras. What seems to cause them to roar so much is that Elderseal knocks their aura off, but then they just say, "Ha, fuck you though" and immediately roar it back on. I've seen them literally roar back up to full aura level with back-to-back roars immediately after having the aura stripped. Aside from being stupid and obnoxious, it makes the entire Elderseal system a complete waste on everything but Nergigante.
 

Elshoelace

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Oct 25, 2017
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Managed to get my first hero streamstone from the Jho quest. Also happened to be for an axe which is exactly what I needed for my Diablos Switchaxe
 

Jester37

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They really need to add a cooldown on Elder Dragons raising their auras. What seems to cause them to roar so much is that Elderseal knocks their aura off, but then they just say, "Ha, fuck you though" and immediately roar it back on. I've seen them literally roar back up to full aura level with back-to-back roars immediately after having the aura stripped. Aside from being stupid and obnoxious, it makes the entire Elderseal system a complete waste on everything but Nergigante.
I agree, a cooldown would make Elderseal feel a lot more useful. It would also help if there were actual known numbers or a ratio for how and when Elderseal activates.
 

nicoga3000

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On the way to complete my ultimate tank set. I don't have all the decorations I want yet but the most important parts are in place. Currently I can completely withstand roars, stuns, knockbacks and unique monster attacks and I also have some resistance against tremors. I feel kinda like this

Would love this loadout when you're done with it!
 

H3rTz DoNuT

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Oct 30, 2017
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Peak preformance is so good when you go with 3 pieces of hazak and health regen on weapon. It's active 90% of the time. Easy +20 attack. I'm using max attack and max peak preformance and it's +40 attack haha I wish I could squeeze agitator in there as well lol

I was hoping Jho set would have either of this but it got useless latent power.
 

KushalaDaora

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I hit the exact wall I was expecting to hit with Kirin. Literally the worst monster in the entire series, at least without going into sub-species and whatnot. I think I'm just gonna happily stay at HR49.

- What weapon are you using ? The best weapon for Kirin is those that have strong opener/draw attack (like GreatSword) and imo the worst is those that relies on constantly hitting the monster to manage gauge (like LongSword) or those that don't have strong opener/draw attack (like SnS or Dual Blades). The key to fighting Kirin is hitting him once or twice after he finished his lightning summoning animation then IMMEDIATELY roll back, more than that and you risk getting zapped (that's why weapon that requires on hitting the monster to fill gauge are bad against Kirin). Also White Sharpness will prevents you from bouncing against his body when he is enraged.

- Might want to ditch some offensive skill for more defensive skill. Health Boost 3, Divine Blessing 3, Thunder Res, Stun Resist, Para Resist, goes a long way against Kirin.

- Bring Armor Talon, Armor Charm, MegaArmorDrug, Armor Powder, Armor Seeds.

- Use Palico Coralhorn Gadget. It buff your DEF, gives Stun resist, and gives Divine Blessing. The DEF buff alongside above items and Health Boost should push your DEF to 450+ even with non-augmented armor, enough to survive even the super thunder.

- Try to fight him at Area 8, it's big, have many ledges and Vigorwasp. Don't try to fight Kirin at the multiple-platform area.

Omg, I don't think I've ever been so close to defeating Kirin. 20 minutes of fighting and he was down to his last breath, but then some clown with a bow jumped into the game and died too many times so I failed. I sadly didn't think about making it a solo game.

This is probably the only game I've ever played where it's actually more difficult to get help from other players. It just invites disaster most of the time.

I think gating the normal Low-Rank Kirin in an Optional questline doesn't really help either. Kirin is totally different than any other monsters (unlike other Elder which still retains similar moveset to normal wyvern), so I imagine he took a lot of people by surprise.
 
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