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Tenjin

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Dec 3, 2017
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Nice! 15 minutes is tough for me for Kirin though. I think the last one I did ended in 14 minutes 50 seconds, so just barely in time.

Side note, Kusahla sucks. Even with wind resist 5 I still get pushed back all the time by his wind aura, and his tornadoes still hit like a truck

My record is 9min 50sec with Karma normal shots and sleep bombs.

Got a 4 boxes kushala too. This track event is glorious!

Does the apothecary mantle have any effect on blast status?

I think so, yes.
 
Jan 10, 2018
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My record is 9min 50sec with Karma normal shots and sleep bombs.

Got a 4 boxes kushala too. This track event is glorious!



I think so, yes.

Hmm, I'll have to try it out then. Blast is my favourite status to apply but I don't fully understand the mechanics behind it. Is it based on the amount of damage you do or the amount of hits? Like what counts towards the buildup?
 

Tenjin

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Dec 3, 2017
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I'm not so sure either. Some hits build it up (these little sparkles), after a certain amount it explodes on impact.
 

Muffin

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Oct 26, 2017
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You can already. There are three tiers of tempered monsters. T1 becomes available after you finish the main quest (perhaps even before, I'm not sure), T2 becomes available after the Double Tempered Bazel quest and T3 (elder dragons) become available at HR50.

You unlock them by gathering tracks of tempered monsters. This can only be done during expeditions or during tempered monster investigations. They're easily recognizable due to the scoutflies turning blue instead of green when they pick up a tempered track. There are a couple of spots in each level with a nice amount of tempered tracks around. Take for instance the Coral Highlands:

Pink Rathian, Kirin and Legiana are usually just one or two per expedition, but Tempered Paolumu tracks are more numerous. Gather them all, return to Astera, go back to the Coral Highlands, gather all tracks again, rinse and repeat.

Alternatively, you can do the double tempered Bazel quest. Ignore the two Bazels and instead go after their tracks.

Thanks! Will get on that. I have to wonder though, what is the progression from here? What do the Tempered Monsters give me that the HR ones do not? Better decorations?

As per mentioned above, you need artillery 3 and capacity boost for impact phials. Artillery 3 charm is the way to go... (because Artillery jewels are Rare 8 jewels).you can still mix and match with others pieces.

Capacity boost is definitely required, but this skill annoys me....not because it's useless (on the contrary, it's a MUST), but because all the armor pieces with Capacity Boost is so god damned ugly!!

As a Charge Blade main, i highly recommend the Focus 3 skill. Usually, a single charged sword attack followed by the spinning slash is enough to charge to red phial. Without Focus 3, you'll need to charge attack twice. This has really cut down my hunt times.

Appreciated! Seems like I'll have to get on Teostra for that Artillery charm, will do that asap then.
 

Number45

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Oct 25, 2017
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Thanks! Will get on that. I have to wonder though, what is the progression from here? What do the Tempered Monsters give me that the HR ones do not? Better decorations?
You're guaranteed decorations (and/or streamstones) from tempered investigations, from normal ones you're not. Generally you want to run normal investigations for materials, tempered for decorations.
 

Ferrs

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Oct 26, 2017
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Half of the deaths in SOS pickle could be avoided if people stopping attacking for healing insteaf of trying to sneak yet another swing. Ughh!!
 

adrem007

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Nov 26, 2017
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Hey all, how is the game for someone who never played MH before and playing solo/with randoms? Worth picking up?
 

Geist 6one7

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Oct 29, 2017
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Nice! 15 minutes is tough for me for Kirin though. I think the last one I did ended in 14 minutes 50 seconds, so just barely in time.

Side note, Kusahla sucks. Even with wind resist 5 I still get pushed back all the time by his wind aura, and his tornadoes still hit like a truck
I think you need the Nulify Wind Pressure set bonus from the Kushala armor to beat the wind aura.
Hmm, I'll have to try it out then. Blast is my favourite status to apply but I don't fully understand the mechanics behind it. Is it based on the amount of damage you do or the amount of hits? Like what counts towards the buildup?
It's like the other statuses. Based on your blast stat and motion value of the move your using. Once you have applied enough blast to hit the threshold...boom. Shouldn't have anything to do with your attack number.
 

KanameYuuki

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Dec 23, 2017
2,647
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six more to go to complete my crowns. I don't even feel like trying the jho event as I've gotten the hero stones I want. I just want my crowns dammit T-T

Do you have a special strat for crowns? I just realized that with all my hours I have like 4 gold crowns but I don't remember if there where any more gold for the ones I already have, I guess I should start keeping record of gold crowns since I assume there is no in game total counter.
 

Number45

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do you have a special strat for crowns? I just realized that with all my hours I have like 4 gold crowns but I don't remember if there where any more gold for the ones I already have, I guess I should start keeping record of gold crowns since I assume there is no in game total counter.
They're displayed in your field guide and in your guild card (I think).
 

cowbanana

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Feb 2, 2018
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Hey all, how is the game for someone who never played MH before and playing solo/with randoms? Worth picking up?

Don't hesitate. I was completely new to MH and now I'm up to 220 hours, playing mostly solo to begin with and then a whole bunch of quests with randoms. This game is so good. Don't plan on playing anything else though, I haven't been able to dig into the other games I want to play. Zero hours of non-MHW games played since the end of january. This game is the the Time Eater :P
 

KanameYuuki

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Dec 23, 2017
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Hey all, how is the game for someone who never played MH before and playing solo/with randoms? Worth picking up?

This is my very first MH game and I love it, I only play with randoms too not that many frustrating teammates unlike every other single coop game and the more you progress that number becomes even less. I regret paying one month sub on FFXIV which I also love since I can't stop playing MonHun.

They're displayed in your field guide and in your guild card (I think).

Thank you, just checked and so few golden crowns, not even one gold on monster I know I have farmed so many times.


I tried Jho last night and everyone was carting left and right,thankfully I can keep my ground as Lance otherwise I wouldn't last 30 secs.
 

hans_castorp

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Oct 27, 2017
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Jhoe's event with randoms is a headache. People carting left and right.
How can people be rank 50 and still triple cart to a damn Jhoe.

Time to solo I guess...
 

Animus Vox

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Oct 30, 2017
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Wtf, was fighting tempered Nergi and I was at full health and suddenly I was one shot in mid air. Don't even know what hit me cuz I was above him.
Exact same thing happened to me. Full health, with food buffs, I roll off a hill with a hammer so I'm spinning in midair, he goes for that wing ground drag move which connects with me and the game immediately tells me I've fainted.
 

Strider

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Oct 25, 2017
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Said I was done with tempered Jho but who am I kidding... Wanna get better at it and try with more weapons.

Went with glaive for the first time and it took almost 30 minutes but I learned a lot of what I was doing wrong... Gonna try again at some point today and see if I can get that time way down.

Also is capturing a guaranteed hero stone? I've legit gotten a hero stone every time I've captured him... Probably just lucky though.
 

Ashgar

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Oct 28, 2017
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Can't speak to post-patch, but in my first set of tempered elder investigations after getting past Kirin, I got a weakness exploit deco and a critical element deco. Felt good after a million Palico Rally decos, haha.

Whoa, what? If these exist than it's an unannounced change, post-patch. I'd like to see quite a few other set bonuses show up as decorations (see: Razor Sharp, Super recovery) but I thought someone confirmed that they weren't in the game data.
 

Tenjin

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Dec 3, 2017
472
So, my 5 reward box tempered kirins are done. 1 peak performance jewel, 1 mushroomancer jewel and two warrior stones (ls and sa)... no crown though >_<

I hate that horse.
 

Vuze

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Oct 25, 2017
4,186
Boo, thought I'd discovered new items added with the 2.0 patch but Kiranico already has them indexed so they are probably from an earlier patch. (Xeno Crystal, Nergi Barbs and some more)
Still interesting, why would they add one new item to a few monsters?
 

Jester37

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Oct 25, 2017
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One thing that's been bothering me lately, is why we don't have more quests that have 2 (or more) of the same monster on the map. In previous games I loved doing quests that involved, let's say 2 or even 3 Rathalos in a single quest because it was a great source for farming general materials and getting rare drops. I hope these types of quests get added later, or patched in for investigations.
 

chasingclouds

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Jan 5, 2018
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Just complaining because Giant crown Teostra doesn't exist in my game!!!!!! It's the only crown left I need and it will not happen. I've slayed well over 50 giant sized Teos, quit out of countless other investigations with average or small sized ones, and my silver crown is only 30 bloody points off a gold, it's just cruel at this point!
 

Toxi

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
17,547
One thing that's been bothering me lately, is why we don't have more quests that have 2 (or more) of the same monster on the map. In previous games I loved doing quests that involved, let's say 2 or even 3 Rathalos in a single quest because it was a great source for farming general materials and getting rare drops. I hope these types of quests get added later, or patched in for investigations.
Yeah, it's really weird, especially when the HR29 assigned quest has you fight two Tempered B52s and then you lose access to that quest afterwards.

At least I wouldn't mind investigations with two of the same monster.
 

DrArchon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Gotten my tempered Vaal kill times to ~6 min with Charge Blade. Not optimal, but I feel pretty good about it. Can't kill him before he limps off to go sleep, but he doesn't die more than 10 seconds after waking up.

Can confirm CB is still super dumb even with the nerfs.
 

RedStep

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Oct 27, 2017
2,649
If any of my Xbox peeps are looking to do some Angry Pickles, I'll be on around noon PST. Did 4-5 runs this morning with randoms but we only succeeded once - I run Karma LBG with Normal 2 shots so solo is rough (hard to keep range and aim when he's in your face 100% of the time) but I keep myself alive and put out a steady stream of damage.

My last solo run... did not go well.
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Hattori

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Oct 25, 2017
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Do you have a special strat for crowns? I just realized that with all my hours I have like 4 gold crowns but I don't remember if there where any more gold for the ones I already have, I guess I should start keeping record of gold crowns since I assume there is no in game total counter.
Investigations with Gold and Silver rewards, multimonster events. I use youtube as a resource for what the crown monsters should look like, I go in to the quest, if it matches or is close enough I go for the kill, if not I just abandon and repost the quest. make sure to exhaust the investigation because you never know when the crown monster will show up, it could appear in the first run or the last one (sometimes not at all.) its a grind but I've decided to make MH my first platinum so I can't give up T-T
 

chasingclouds

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Jan 5, 2018
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The Kirin crown is driving me nuts ... 34 killed so far ... got 67 azure horns in my box ... lol.

If it helps - only kill ones that are the right size to save time - return from investigation on the average sized ones.

Giant Kirin your hunter can stand totally under its belly with a visible gap between the top of your head and the start of its belly above you. Very noticeable. Use redpits to get it to stand somewhere flat so you can try and stand under it for an accurate measurement.

Mini Kirin your hunter head will be almost level with the vertical blue stripe down it's side. Stand at the side of it and check.

I only killed 12 Kirin to get both crowns using those measurements
 
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The Kirin crown is driving me nuts ... 34 killed so far ... got 67 azure horns in my box ... lol.

Seeing as you seem to have a lot of knowledge about Kirin, do you have any tips for someone who just started battling him? I'm constantly dying to random thunder attacks and I'm not very good at avoiding being stunned. Do you have to carry armor with anti-stun and thunder res?
 

Tenjin

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chasingclouds
Thx for the measurement tip, I have a small crown already. I kill it, because I don't want to waste tempered investigations ;)

Tekku
What weapon are you using? I did him ony with ranged weapons so far, mostly with LBG. There were quests where he didn't hit me once, but he also killed me. For a tempered I eat 6x veggie for elemental res L, for a normal investigation I don't even bother ...

After a while you'll know when and where he strikes his attacks, only when he does his arrogant "Don't give a fuck"-walk the lightning seems random. Palico has the sleep weapon, so he gets 2 mega barrel bombs mid-fight and 2 after he gone to sleep.

I watched speedruns to learn when to attack but i still can't prevent him to flee. But it's a good bombing opportunity, so no regrets ... I also kind of mastered the way up to his sleeping place O_o

Best tip I have: fight at night, it is so much easier to see the long lightning thingies he doesn from time to time ... and if you see a gajalaka sitting on a rock, lure him to the guy for some extra damage :)
 

Jester37

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yeah, it's really weird, especially when the HR29 assigned quest has you fight two Tempered B52s and then you lose access to that quest afterwards.

At least I wouldn't mind investigations with two of the same monster.
I'm mostly salty because I need over 20 Kadachi claws and 30 Anja fang + for weapons. Would be much easier if I had an investigations for each where 2 were on the map at the same time.
 

Strider

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Oct 25, 2017
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USA
Itd be cool if they changed the location of tempered jho every couple of days for this event.. . I'd like to fight it somewhere besides the ancient forest at this point.
 
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chasingclouds
Thx for the measurement tip, I have a small crown already. I kill it, because I don't want to waste tempered investigations ;)

Tekku
What weapon are you using? I did him ony with ranged weapons so far, mostly with LBG. There were quests where he didn't hit me once, but he also killed me. For a tempered I eat 6x veggie for elemental res L, for a normal investigation I don't even bother ...

After a while you'll know when and where he strikes his attacks, only when he does his arrogant "Don't give a fuck"-walk the lightning seems random. Palico has the sleep weapon, so he gets 2 mega barrel bombs mid-fight and 2 after he gone to sleep.

I watched speedruns to learn when to attack but i still can't prevent him to flee. But it's a good bombing opportunity, so no regrets ... I also kind of mastered the way up to his sleeping place O_o

Best tip I have: fight at night, it is so much easier to see the long lightning thingies he doesn from time to time ... and if you see a gajalaka sitting on a rock, lure him to the guy for some extra damage :)

Thanks for all the great tips. I'm using a lancer so my movement is rather slow. I can block all of his thunder attacks but sometimes they come too fast for me to be able to react. I'll just have to practice some more I guess. :)
 

veras

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just complaining because Giant crown Teostra doesn't exist in my game!!!!!! It's the only crown left I need and it will not happen. I've slayed well over 50 giant sized Teos, quit out of countless other investigations with average or small sized ones, and my silver crown is only 30 bloody points off a gold, it's just cruel at this point!

This is me with large Kirin - I've checked hundreds of them, killed a tonnnnnn of giant ones I can walk clear under with the gap, gold crown refuses to pop
 

Toxi

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
17,547
Itd be cool if they changed the location of tempered jho every couple of days for this event.. . I'd like to fight it somewhere besides the ancient forest at this point.
Me too. Wildspire Wastes would be a fun choice.

Or alternatively, have events for other super tempered monsters that have the same HP boost and crazy damage as Tempered Jho.
 

GameShrink

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Oct 29, 2017
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When you guys say "abandon the investigation if it isn't a crown monster," that wastes the investigation, right? You don't get the try back?

I'm about 10 crowns away from the trophy, and I'll be looking to save some time with tactics like this soon.
 
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