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FPS murderer

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Oct 27, 2017
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So, my issue, is kind of the same one i have with the Matrix UHD coming on May 22: I know I'll want them all, so do I buy the one, which then commits me to buying everything piecemeal, or do I wait (agonizingly) for a all seasons or total trilogy pack?

As far as I know only the matrix was 4k scanned. There no plans so far for the other two, but he'll, it's warmer bros so you never now...
 

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There's something I want to do.

I want the Onimushas, Silent Hill 2/3, DMC 1/3, a bunch of Atlus games, etc. Basically, there are enough PS2 games that I feel the need to play that I want to do it right, so I want a small TV, because seeing a PS2 game stretched over my 55" is nightmare fuel. So, what TV do I want? Is there a 15" OLED with old inputs? If not, do I go CRT or Plasma? No one makes them new, right?

There are two options, IMO:

1) Quality CRT. You can find these on Craigslist sometimes, often for free. I lined up an XBR960 for free last year but decided against it, was in a similar situation to yours, but thought about the irritation of moving around a 250 lb. monster to play retro games.
2) EDTV plasma. I have rarely seen these pop up on CL. Panasonic made some excellent ones; last year I actually got rid of a perfect 50" EDTV Panny plasma at work. They'll give you 480p without scaling and still look great with motion (not as good as CRTs for black level sadly).

Either one of these is a great display for playing retro games. If you can't find one, you could look at an older-model plasma TV; 480p scaling is less egregious on a 1024x768 plasma IMO compared to a modern 4K set.

Also, I recommend trying Xbox1 and Gamecube, also Dreamcast through VGA, since many TVs of that time supported VGA input, and there are great games of that era which you will definitely get some joy from.
 

Bumrush

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As the basement work begins, I'm looking into whole house WiFi. Anyone have any experience with Ubiquiti? My router is on the top floor and as it stands, I get a "Good" signal downstairs but I have a feeling 4K streaming, games, etc. will be a lot less clean unless I beef this up.

Bumping this one from a few days ago. Google mesh a better option? Thanks guys.
 

Cloggerdude

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Bumping this one from a few days ago. Google mesh a better option? Thanks guys.

I think Google Mesh would moreso be an easier option. I looked into all of that stuff a few months ago and I think ubiquiti throughout your house would be "best", but the Google Mesh network is almost literally just plug and play. I went with Google Wifi and I'm quite happy with the coverage improvements, but obviously YMMV.
 

Bumrush

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I think Google Mesh would moreso be an easier option. I looked into all of that stuff a few months ago and I think ubiquiti throughout your house would be "best", but the Google Mesh network is almost literally just plug and play. I went with Google Wifi and I'm quite happy with the coverage improvements, but obviously YMMV.

If you don't mind me asking, how much sq. footage are you working with and how many nodes did you go with? A buddy of mine said I'd need 3 (3 floors, roughly 1200 sq. ft per floor with the router currently on the top floor)
 

Cloggerdude

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If you don't mind me asking, how much sq. footage are you working with and how many nodes did you go with? A buddy of mine said I'd need 3 (3 floors, roughly 1200 sq. ft per floor with the router currently on the top floor)

I have three floors with a total of around 2,200 sq feet for the entire house. Definitely less square footage, but my house is also pretty cut up with walls, so it may do better or worse depending on your layout.

I went with three, but I honestly think two would have probably been fine. I'm very happy with the coverage that three has given us though. I went from barely having 1 bar in our bedroom, to having full bars basically everywhere in the house.
 

Chumley

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Fuck me, Blade Runner 2049 uhd disc is noticeably more gorgeous than the ATV streaming version.
 

RedlineRonin

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As far as I know only the matrix was 4k scanned. There no plans so far for the other two, but he'll, it's warmer bros so you never now...

That was a reference title when it released on DVD, and again on Blu Ray. It'll sell boat loads on 4K and absolutely the rest of the trilogy will follow. With a 4K DI, Dolby Vision and a remixed Atmos soundtrack, it's likely to be a reference quality UHD disc.
 

RedlineRonin

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The Matrix literally came out of nowhere too it seems. That's one film I'd been searching for each time I updated the list of UHDs over the last few months I want to get within the next year, and there wasn't ever any news about it coming. Saving Private Ryan also.

Yep, lots of goodness on the way. Incredibles is also coming, which was a solid DVD/Blu Ray. I like the slow tide beginning to pick up of older releases.

Still a little leery about what Disney will do long term for 4K, in the context of them rolling out their own streaming service.
 

Bumrush

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I have three floors with a total of around 2,200 sq feet for the entire house. Definitely less square footage, but my house is also pretty cut up with walls, so it may do better or worse depending on your layout.

I went with three, but I honestly think two would have probably been fine. I'm very happy with the coverage that three has given us though. I went from barely having 1 bar in our bedroom, to having full bars basically everywhere in the house.

Thanks so much for the input. You're the 3rd person that suggested we go with Google so I'll definitely do some research on it.
 

Lakeside

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Bumping this one from a few days ago. Google mesh a better option? Thanks guys.

It depends on what you are after. I'd love to hard wire one Ubiquiti AP for each floor and call it a day, but that presents challenges I'm not ready to tackle.

I spent a couple weeks looking at eero, Velop, AmpliFi, Orbi, etc in my home. I did a lot of in-depth testing and came to the conclusion that nothing came close to 3x Velop for my home (2 floors + finished basement). Google is definitely easy to use, and I didn't test that one directly since it's lacking on the hardware front compared to the newer stuff. Orbi has tons of promise, but it's been absolutely knee-capped by firmware problems for months. (When I was testing, they had rolled back 3-4 revisions and locked it down so they wouldn't auto-update.) I looked at overall coverage, total throughput, latency, bandwidth for key home theater locations, etc. YMMV but I'd at least look at Velop if you can stomach the price.

Useful link: https://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/33125-wi-fi-system-roundup

The didn't test everything there, but other models are covered in various reviews and roundups.

Are homeplugs not good enough for 4K streaming?

It sooo depends on your wiring. I have one network hop that I put in place with Powerline b/c it's a raw MPEG2 video feed from a roof-top antenna tuner to my NAS/Plex server. It serves the purpose of preventing my wireless network from relaying the same traffic twice when we watch live TV via Plex. I tested and found one pair of useful outlets for this in my home (and lucky me it was a convenient pair). Anything else had 80+% packet loss.
 
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cooldawn

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At home we have some blinds... but i still leave a soft flannel blanket on top when i go to work if its a super sunny day. haha. The time i noticed i had gotten some stains in it i freaked out. Pixel Refresher worked on my set, but not sure if that is an option that works all the time. Specially if its an overtime stain.

Amm... as far as the HDMIs it all depends. as long as it supports the 2.2 handshake and is good quality any kind will do. These are pretty good and i've had no issues. They're also sturdy.

Whenever you have HDR outpout your TV should let you know with a prompt that its running in HDR. Which TV do you have? I have the LGC7, i don't think it tells me the resolution change tho, and for me to get information on the screen i have to use an app on the phone since they ditched the info button on the controller. Which is super dumb. Apps like Amazon Prime do let you know what you're streaming so that is always nice.

When you go to settings you should be able to see those options.
I'll certainly consider something to cover it when needed. I have blinds but, honestly, I prefer natural sunlight to come in.

Has this issue been talked about on here before? Most of the time I just read about Image Retention and Burn-In, never seen this one before.

I tried to buy a HDMI cable today but none of the High-Speed cables stated how compliant it is i.e. 2.0a or 2.0b. Not sure what to do because I definitely want one capable of transmitting HLG (2.0b).

The TV is being delivered Saturday morning. Bought a Sony Bravia A1 OLED. I was hoping for full Dolby Vision compatibility prior to purchase but I just didn't want to wait anymore. Looking forward to it though. Lots.

Thanks for your help so far fella. There should be a reward system on here for helpful people like yourself.
 

ToD_

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The disc HDR grading is way better than the DV grading. Feels like deakins himself timed it on disc, looks exactly how I remember it did in theaters.
I haven't seen the 4K versions on UHD or ATV, but I did see the it in a Dolby Cinema in Dolby Vision. Perhaps the DV in cinemas is different enough compared to the home release to warrant new grading, otherwise I wonder why they would use anything other than the grading they already had available.
 

dsk1210

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Lol, yeah not 26 but on some days easily 16hrs on the TV if I'm gaming, browsing and watching films. I took a look at the RTINGS link about screen burn. It may be the only thing I worry about (if I'm paying nearly £3000 last thing i want to do is wreck it). When I'm gaming it can be for a solid 8 hours in a day, though rarely more than twice a week (I work odd shift patterns) and when I'm browsing it can be for 6 hrs or so. However I'd assume a fair amount of variety during this time. I don't watch sports apart from F1 and things like the Olympics. So the worst case scenario is that I game for hrs a day on the same game which has a bright hud or lacks variety in its display. Maybe the thing to do would be to break up playing with other viewing, which is reasonable to do. As there are some days i barely watch TV at all i guess weekly my total viewing is around 45 to 55 hrs a week. i think I could cope with the need for variety. A nice screensaver or music visualisation would help there as all my music comes from my PC. Hmmm, something to think about.


I use my OLED as a monitor most of the time, just make sure to have your screensaver kick on after 1 min or something like that, that way the screen will change every time you are not using moving or using anything.

Also set task bat to auto hide and have changing background pics.

It works as long as you don't abuse it.
 

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I haven't seen the 4K versions on UHD or ATV, but I did see the it in a Dolby Cinema in Dolby Vision. Perhaps the DV in cinemas is different enough compared to the home release to warrant new grading, otherwise I wonder why they would use anything other than the grading they already had available.

I dunno. I've seen it in Dolby cinema too, as well as the DV Apple TV version and now uhd hdr disc. The hdr disc blew me away in a way the ATV version didn't. Might be some weird placebo personal preference thing but I definitely noticed finer detail and colors.
 

ReyVGM

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Welp, my Panasonic Plasma VT60 has died. I spent so much time saving money and wanting one and finally got it right before they got discontinued, and now after 5 years, it died.

Hopefully a technician is able to fix it, but if not, then the quest to save up for the potential purchase of an OLED begins (I can't go down to LED after owning a Plasma).

I'll be watching this thread.
 

Smokey

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Did LG pull the recent Dolby Vision update for the LG UP970 UHD player? Again?

I see an update is available for BD.39.338.80207.C, which I assume is for DV, but every time I try and download it gives me a download failed. Netflix and Youtube work fine on the player, so it's not my connection...
 

henhowc

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Anyone with a living room that gets a lot of light/glare get window treatments done before? I've been looking into it but there are lots of products.

Mostly been looking at huper optik.
 

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I use my OLED as a monitor most of the time, just make sure to have your screensaver kick on after 1 min or something like that, that way the screen will change every time you are not using moving or using anything.

Also set task bat to auto hide and have changing background pics.

It works as long as you don't abuse it.

What do you mean most of the time? How many hours a day or week would you say you use your OLED as your monitor?

This is my main concern, using it as a monitor. There are days when i work from home, and I get lazy, where I end up using my tv as my monitor for pretty much the whole day, first for work then for play.

I figured I would just try and use my mac more for browsing the web. I think the way I use it right now, might be categorised as abuse, being the loser that I am. But I could change my habits a bit to accommodate an OLED.

Watching movies on the new Samsung Tabs S, which I think is one of the best displays on the planet, is really fantastic. On a 65incher, it should be mind blowing.
 

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Anyone with a living room that gets a lot of light/glare get window treatments done before? I've been looking into it but there are lots of products.

Mostly been looking at huper optik.
Don't know about any of that, but if you go to home depot, they sell different kinds of removable window tint that's not too hard to apply.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gila-36-in-x-78-in-Black-Privacy-Window-Film-PB78/100618512

I've had this stuff up at my parents house for years and its held up well and helped with glare.
 

FPS murderer

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Don't know about any of that, but if you go to home depot, they sell different kinds of removable window tint that's not too hard to apply.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gila-36-in-x-78-in-Black-Privacy-Window-Film-PB78/100618512

I've had this stuff up at my parents house for years and its held up well and helped with glare.

I may need this, temperature wise. Freaking sun blasts on my very large porch door making my living room an oven in summer, even with a swamp cooler.

Is it easy to apply?
 

Hydrus

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I may need this, temperature wise. Freaking sun blasts on my very large porch door making my living room an oven in summer, even with a swamp cooler.

Is it easy to apply?
I would say it's pretty easy as long as you buy the kit that comes with the stuff you need.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Gila-Complete-Window-Film-Application-Kit-RTK500SM/100354790

Might need some one to help hold it up if your putting it on a very large windows. It helped with the heat when I lived at my parents and surprisingly never peeled off with the intense heat.
 

Punished Goku

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Man I really want to be blown away by HDR but it's just not making me awe in amazement. Am I not watching the correct content?
 

CrumbSnatcher

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The disc HDR grading is way better than the DV grading. Feels like deakins himself timed it on disc, looks exactly how I remember it did in theaters.

You mean the Dolby Cinema release. The disc HDR should be better, than the theater and streaming in any format. The bit rate differences are pretty big.

DV on disc, means HDR10 as a base layer and DV as the enhancement layer.
 

Majora85

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Been really impressed with the HDR on season 2 of Stranger Things and the last 15 minutes of Annihilation recently. Stranger Things in particular is a very good mix of obvious showcases (the arcade at the beginning, nearly anything in the upside down, flashlights) and much more subtle usage. For example, the interiors are nearly all filled with very soft, warm, orange light sources and while they are not particularly bright they just look super impressive in the way they glow and make the scenes feel so naturally lit.

To be honest I'm starting to get to the point where I really notice when I go from HDR to SDR. Sometimes I'm watching SDR content now and when I'm looking at the light sources on screen I'm thinking how much better they would look in HDR haha.
 

MrBob

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I haven't seen the 4K versions on UHD or ATV, but I did see the it in a Dolby Cinema in Dolby Vision. Perhaps the DV in cinemas is different enough compared to the home release to warrant new grading, otherwise I wonder why they would use anything other than the grading they already had available.
I think dv for tvs is a mastered differently than theater dv so it needs to be redone. Not certain though.


Could have just been a bad transfer. I bought a cheap itunes power rangers code and watched the 4k Dolby vision version on a4ktv and the dv transfer was awful. Everything was so dark I had to crank up the oled light to make things properly visible but it gave a bad sheen to the whole picture. Only movie I've seen this issue.
 

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Brhoom

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I'm genuinely thinking of replacing my X930E with an OLED. I'm just wary of IR since I do watch a lot of broadcast tv.

If you're a gamer or someone that uses his TV as PC monitor, I advice that you wait until HDMI 2.1.

Your TV is one of the best TVs around, you can manage another year without OLED.

Edit: Seeing that some 2.1 features can show up in 2.0 TVs, maybe it's not a bad idea to get an OLED TV
 
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Wonderbrah

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Been really impressed with the HDR on season 2 of Stranger Things and the last 15 minutes of Annihilation recently. Stranger Things in particular is a very good mix of obvious showcases (the arcade at the beginning, nearly anything in the upside down, flashlights) and much more subtle usage. For example, the interiors are nearly all filled with very soft, warm, orange light sources and while they are not particularly bright they just look super impressive in the way they glow and make the scenes feel so naturally lit.

To be honest I'm starting to get to the point where I really notice when I go from HDR to SDR. Sometimes I'm watching SDR content now and when I'm looking at the light sources on screen I'm thinking how much better they would look in HDR haha.

Annihilation is on netflix already?
 

RedlineRonin

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Two things I saw that were very interesting the last couple days.... Thing one is a high def digest (or somewhere) first look of the Q9. Claiming OLED level blacks and better speculate highlights. "The high end set to beat this year"....

And separately, there was some verbiage in that Microsoft thing over the weekend implying the feature (VRR) would be supported on Samsung TVs "later this year"....

If VRR is out this fall and Q9 outperforms OLED (and has VRR) I could be moving off my C7 quick...

Not all stuff isn't even shot in 4k, let alone 8k and on a 65" set, lol at 8k. Meaning, will you really need that?

You didn't need color. You could tell what was what in black and white.
 

Brau

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I'll certainly consider something to cover it when needed. I have blinds but, honestly, I prefer natural sunlight to come in.

Has this issue been talked about on here before? Most of the time I just read about Image Retention and Burn-In, never seen this one before.

I tried to buy a HDMI cable today but none of the High-Speed cables stated how compliant it is i.e. 2.0a or 2.0b. Not sure what to do because I definitely want one capable of transmitting HLG (2.0b).

The TV is being delivered Saturday morning. Bought a Sony Bravia A1 OLED. I was hoping for full Dolby Vision compatibility prior to purchase but I just didn't want to wait anymore. Looking forward to it though. Lots.

Thanks for your help so far fella. There should be a reward system on here for helpful people like yourself.
Happy i can help.

Not sure if the sun stains have been previously discussed here. But i know other forums i checked after it happened to me was a topic that had quite a few replies. I guess its just a known issue of the tech. So i am not really sure how dependent of the model this is and so on. You would have to look for your specific model and see if there are lots of people complaining about it. Choosing a new TV like this is such a chore haha.

The HDMI cable should have the info on the box or the information. Where are you buying from? Those ones i linked are pretty good and they work with everything super well, so at least they are vetted.

I am sure you're super excited to get the TV already. :D

I have to say that Dolby Vision is quite a looker. Even on Netflix with the slight compression, it looks pretty amazing. I was gonna watch Annihilation on my phone the other day until i realized the movie has Dolby Vision. So now I have to watch it on the TV. Does that model you're getting have support for HDR+? Thats a nice feature to have.
 

w00tmanUK

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Just waiting for the prices to be announced for the new LG C8 - but in the meantime I'm getting my he'd around 4k HDR streaming. I've a playstation Pro - are the apps (netflix and amazon in particular) both set up to stream 4k plus HDR?

I know i need to look at my subscription for netflix, but I'm on 4 screen anyway so it should be good to go - but would prefer to use my Pro to stream if it's 100% compatible rather than apps on the TV.
 
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