I'm curious to see how it does next week after a 2-hour The Voice instead of This Is Us.
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2017-18 Season TV Cancellations/Pilots: E Corp does hostile takeover. Shuts down fsociety
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He's the lead in the new Lost in Space show on Netflix next month.
Toby Schmitz was great as Jack Rackham, and what a 4 season arc he had, but I wonder if I'm ever going to see him on TV again. (In the US)
I feel like this season has been a step down, but I'm still enjoying it.
To be fair, the only shows that Shonda herself has created for ABC are Grey's Anatomy, Private Practice, and Scandal. So she's still 3-for-3.
I think it will do good, it seems to have the same atmosphere as Grey's
Decent numbers for Rise.
Curious on if it will hold. Apparently the show gets better as it gets closer to the season finale.
Curious on if it will hold. Apparently the show gets better as it gets closer to the season finale.
While this is true, any pilots Shonda airs in 2018 on ABC (For The People and Station 19) as well as past ABC shows from before this year stay on air until ABC cancels them.
Even if Netflix has her, they can choose to renew Grey's Anatomy until 2025 and she'd still be helping at ABC.
yes! he's my favorite character lol. Like I said earlier, I like Vane's crew more than the main crew :P
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Would you or someone else mind spoiling what the supernatural twist or element is so far? I haven't seen the show because of the reviews, but I'm curious.
Wednesday night's ratings. Looks like The CW's Life Sentence will soon be getting a life sentence...to cancellation:
Look at how many people immediately turn to Fox once X files goes off.
9-1-1 should have been extended instead of ending next week.
9-1-1 should have been extended instead of ending next week.
Yeah, that's a crazy jump from XF to 911.
Life Sentence was obviously going to be a flop, so there's no surprise with its performance.
Life Sentence was obviously going to be a flop, so there's no surprise with its performance.
Life Sentence seems like a show that would've made sense on the CW five or ten years ago, but nowadays I don't really see the throughline between Riverdale and that. Is it just "sexy young actors"? The tones couldn't be more different.
Riverdale is a mess this season, but if the trend holds, it's probably making up for its low numbers via streaming as always.
Riverdale is a mess this season, but if the trend holds, it's probably making up for its low numbers via streaming as always.
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I knew Amazon wasn't doing great but man, Netflix has more than double that in terms of subscribers. Hulu has 17 million subscribers, and I dare say more of a cultural footprint with Handmaid's tale alone than all of Amazon's scripted offerings combined.
As berzeli noted, Hulu is about 17M and Netflix is about 55M domestic.
This was also included in the Reuters Amazon article:
Production and marketing costs:
"The Grand Tour" season 1 $78 million
"The Man in High Castle" season 1 $72 million
"The Man in High Castle" season 2 $107 million
"Sneaky Pete" season 1 $93 million
"Goliath" season 1 $82 million
"Bosch" season 1 $47 million
"Bosch" season 2 $53 million
"Mozart in the Jungle" season 2 $37 million
"Hand of God" season 1 $46 million
"The Good Girls Revolt" season 1 $81 million
Production and marketing costs:
"The Grand Tour" season 1 $78 million
"The Man in High Castle" season 1 $72 million
"The Man in High Castle" season 2 $107 million
"Sneaky Pete" season 1 $93 million
"Goliath" season 1 $82 million
"Bosch" season 1 $47 million
"Bosch" season 2 $53 million
"Mozart in the Jungle" season 2 $37 million
"Hand of God" season 1 $46 million
"The Good Girls Revolt" season 1 $81 million
It's kind of weird that people seemingly gave up on Man in the High Castle. Either that or the extra 30-40 million they spent was definitely not worth it.
I wonder where The Handmaid's Tale fits in those charts?
Think about what happened between season 1 and season 2 in real life. It probably makes people less eager to watch the show.
This was also included in the Reuters Amazon article:
Production and marketing costs:
"The Grand Tour" season 1 $78 million
"The Man in High Castle" season 1 $72 million
"The Man in High Castle" season 2 $107 million
"Sneaky Pete" season 1 $93 million
"Goliath" season 1 $82 million
"Bosch" season 1 $47 million
"Bosch" season 2 $53 million
"Mozart in the Jungle" season 2 $37 million
"Hand of God" season 1 $46 million
"The Good Girls Revolt" season 1 $81 million
That cost for Sneaky Pete seems pretty high. I'm working my way through the first season and while it's shot beautifully, a ton of that must be talent-based or potentially the marketing.
Is 9-1-1 actually good? Why is it crushing Fox's entire library so much? Also why are people not watching X-Files? Season has been quite good.
I think its the best mix of all the "chicago[insert occupation]" shows for that type of action and character relationship drama is pretty good, both of the gay and lesbian plots, as well as the heterorelationship plot and a redemption plot for another character. Compelling content and drama.
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It's part average procedural, part fairly dull family drama, and part Zoo (gone too soon, sign the damn petition you monsters).
175+ million for this?
Damn, Amazon. I'll be boring for 500,000 dollars.
Agreed. Also feels weird cause they try to get into some serious issues but at the same time the dialogue kind of starts to fast forward through stuff and they don't touch a lot of area that the subject would entail
I watched Man in High Castle S1, liked it quite a bit, and never tuned back in. Now what I want is some more Patriot. Luckily I'll get that.
I find Spartacus to be pretty great in later seasons. Good character development. Starts off all action and no substance. Definitely start with the prequel.
Christ almighty TV is expensive. Those budgets sound insane for the Amazon shows. And I guess we now know why they cancelled Good Girls Revolt so quick, looks like a giant flop.
Ugh NO. He should watch it in the order that the episodes airs.
1. Blood and Sand
2. Gods of the Arena
3. Vengeance
4. War of the Damned
Also due note that they had to recast Spartacus after season one. Fuck Cancer :(
2017-18 Season TV Cancellations/Pilots: CW reverses diagnosis, she's dead
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I hope people are understanding the importance of "first" in this metric. This is strictly about connecting shows to new subscriptions. This graph does not necessarily reflect the relative success of shows in overall viewership.
I mean they sort of touch on why Cubans might be Republican, but they just turned it into a Casto bad, Freedom of Speech good argument and you can't really do anything with that.
Why do you say that? I watched them in chronological order (after watching the first season years beforehand) and found that to be a lot better. The show is not about Spartacus really, and watching Gods of the Arena first sets the right tone.
I do agree that, normally, you watch the shows in the order the producers intended. But here, Gods of the Arena is literally something they were forced to create as filler. Artistically and story-wise, there's no reason for it to be in the middle. In fact, it doesn't belong there at all. Much better to stick it in the beginning. It makes the most sense there.
I was hoping they'd at least have her say that to Aaron though. The two people with the main contention that episode never went too deep with their reasoning to each other. But they probably have to go the route they took in part because of time limitations so they do what they can with that
Edit: also it's cool someone else is watching grown-ish here :D
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The gay son keeps seeing the numbers 11 11 everywhere and he also keeps seeing visions of women from the past clawing at their faces and screaming (among other things). His parents make him go to therapy, where we learn that his therapist's birthday is November 11 and the woman in one of his visions is his therapist's mother when she was a young woman.
Sweet!
Yes.
Correct. The first season starts out awfully but improves significantly as it goes on, and the uptick in quality is maintained in all the future seasons (including the prequel).
Yup, I'll cosign on this. Spartacus is a great show, but the first 6-8(?) episodes are bad. It gets much, much better from there, and you should watch it in the order it aired.
Big exaggeration. It's good by episode 4, and only the pilot is actively bad.
Why some shows insist on doing a pilot that is completely different to what the show is going to be I will never know.
So far most of the characters are tied to simple character traits, which is a bit unfortunate. We don't really know why she's a conservative other than Zoey tells us she is through her narration.
Also, yay Freeform. lol
As long as you look at it as a dark comedy and not a drama, it's a fun show. The latest two episodes were legitimately great too.
I'm hoping they might explore characters more instead of just relying on Zoey's narration. I'm also interested in the fact that some characters don't show up in an episode at all. Cant tell if it is writers not having a story for them or just saving money on actors
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