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medli

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Oct 28, 2017
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Anyone have experience with cystic acne on the neck? Not high volume but sporadic painful bumps on back of the neck, side, under the ear etc.

My theory is that it's related to dairy, if I drink milk they go rampant, if I cut out dairy it seems to slowly clear up but it could just be coincidence.

Will try to see a dermatologist but appointments are hard to get. I have a topical buffering lotion that helps reduce size of them but doesn't really fix the root issue.
 

dmke

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Oct 30, 2017
34
How do y'all travel with your skin care regimen? I'm thinking of either getting some travel/sample sizes (possibly an excuse to try new product?) or decanting.

Any recommendations for decant travel containers? Will probably stick with a cleanser - moisturizer - sunscreen combo rather than my usual routine.
 

tabris

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Oct 27, 2017
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How do y'all travel with your skin care regimen? I'm thinking of either getting some travel/sample sizes (possibly an excuse to try new product?) or decanting.

Any recommendations for decant travel containers? Will probably stick with a cleanser - moisturizer - sunscreen combo rather than my usual routine.

I usually fly first class / business class so I check in my luggage.

But if you can't check in luggage, most sunscreen is travel size (esp the one I recommend), there's so many sampler sets of those asian products, and bringing sheet masks is easy (which you can use as a replacement for a moisturizer in a pinch as long as it's the highly moisturizing ones). So the only challenge is a cleanser.
 
Nov 9, 2017
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I'm about to head to Incheon Airport and I want to pick up some Innisfree stuff.

I heard 20pc Mask set is $19, and there's a buy 1 get 1 free sale. What else should I get?
 

meow

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Oct 27, 2017
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How do y'all travel with your skin care regimen? I'm thinking of either getting some travel/sample sizes (possibly an excuse to try new product?) or decanting.

Any recommendations for decant travel containers? Will probably stick with a cleanser - moisturizer - sunscreen combo rather than my usual routine.
If it's under the limit, I just bring the whole thing. Also, I happen to have a ton of travel/deluxe sizes of everything, which means I end up having empty containers I can dump stuff in if I need to, so maybe there's something you can repurpose? I've also used traveling as a good excuse to work through all the foil samples I get of random stuff, easy to pack and I don't have to bring them back.

Otherwise, the little sample jars you can get at Sephora or most makeup counters work really well if you don't want to buy them. Those generally hold enough product, depending on how long your trip is, you can get multiples if needed (plus I assume if your trip is really long, you more likely will be checking baggage anyway). Cleanser is the annoying one and that's part of the reason why I switched to a solid cleanser (but the little sample jars thing still kinda works - I had problems with leakage, just make sure the seal is secure).
 

Rogote

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't know if it has been discussed here, but does people here have any insight to Keratosis Pilaris? I've had it since I was a little boy and I got used to it, but I've noticed that very slowly it has spread from my shoulders/arms towards my chest a little, so I take it that it has no intention of going away with age in my case so I would actually like to combat it a bit.
 
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Leona Lewis

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Oct 25, 2017
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Can ya'll experts (Leona Lewis) give me your opinion on this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074P33MN8/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Been using this every night on my forehead to help combat those pesky forehead lines that I've started developing (RIP my youth). Is it good? Should I use all over my face? What about the eye area ie under eye circles?

Thanks
Any vitamin C serum that lacks ferulic acid is not worth the money. Even refrigerated, it will spoil quite rapidly without that as a preservative.
 

exhume

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Oct 25, 2017
153
Do you want to change up everything or just want to change out individual products?

If you want to change it up - follow this - and see example posts of people here switching to the korean skincare regime I recommended and it making a huge difference. Only thing that's a bit pricey is the $30 missha near skin moisturizer:
Thanks!! I missed that post earlier in the thread.


If you're avoiding products that test on animals or contain animal products you're going to want to be careful with Asian beauty products, because of popular ingredients like horse oil, snail mucus, and bee products. Also, China requires that any product sold there be tested on animals, so while I don't know off the top of my head how many Korean or Japanese beauty products are sold in China, I'm assuming a lot of them are. Just a heads up if you didn't know.
Thanks! I'm pretty good at reading ingredients lists now and I've been doing my research and I know of a few Korean brands that are safe, haven't found any Japanese ones though. I appreciate the warning though ^_^

So I figured this is the best place to ask this.

I work in the hospital and am constantly in nitrile gloves. My hands get very sweaty, so I have taken to wearing glove liners as well. This keeps my hands from getting really wet, but they are still very damp most of the time. Compound this with all the hand washing and I am starting to get some serious red/dry/slightly itchy spots on the tops of my hands.

This is on the tops of my hands. I have been moisturizing some during my shift to compensate for all the hand washing, but I am not sure if it is helping or hurting.

Anything you guys can think of to combat this?
I also work in gloves all day long - not sure what glove liners are, but my boss uses baby powder when her hands get too sweaty to get into the gloves. Then we all just moisturise as often as we can, and put on a deep treatment cream after work and before sleeping every night. Not sure what else to recommend, sorry! Are you in a cold climate?
 

dmke

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Oct 30, 2017
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tabris and meow thanks for the travel tips! The sample jars are a good idea. I'll get a new sunscreen to try and toss it in my bag with my snail cream. I'm only gone for 10 days, but I'm packing light (carry-on only) since I have no professional obligations during this trip.

Any vitamin C serum that lacks ferulic acid is not worth the money. Even refrigerated, it will spoil quite rapidly without that as a preservative.

I know you're a fan of the VoilaVe Triple C Serum, but it doesn't have ferulic acid (pretty sure). Is this still an issue? I've been using and enjoying it, but I also do not refrigerate it. Wondering if I really should be and also if I should re-buy or look at trying something else once it's empty.
 
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Witch

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I usually fly first class / business class
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I read online that using salicylic acid AND tretinoin is good for post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation (better than using just one of those). Anyone know if that's true? If so, how rough would it be? I have only a few dark spots that aren't going away. I want something quick, but not too noticeable since I go out often and don't like to wear face makeup.
 
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Leona Lewis

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Oct 25, 2017
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I know you're a fan of the VoilaVe Triple C Serum, but it doesn't have ferulic acid (pretty sure). Is this still an issue? I've been using and enjoying it, but I also do not refrigerate it. Wondering if I really should be and also if I should re-buy or look at trying something else once it's empty.
The VoilaVe uses ascorbyl glucoside as its primary Vitamin C active to achieve 20% concentration, so it does not require the same degree of preservatives as one that is more reliant on sodium ascorbyl phosphate, which is the more unstable variant of Vitamin C that this particular serum uses more of to achieve a 30% concentration.

The VoilaVe does not need to be refrigerated because of that, but something like the one he linked would turn dark orange very quickly without it.
 

Blade24070

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Oct 26, 2017
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I mean, I've had that product since December, not refrigerated, and it's still the same greish white color it was upon opening. Didn't know it needed refrigeration but it looks the same after 3 months.
 
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Leona Lewis

Leona Lewis

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I mean, I've had that product since December, not refrigerated, and it's still the same greish white color it was upon opening. Didn't know it needed refrigeration but it looks the same after 3 months.
To be honest, I'm somewhat skeptical of its claims to have 30% Vitamin C in the first place.

The active ingredient in the form of powdered Vitamin C comes after emollients like jojoba and witch hazel, which is odd since you'd expect 30% Vitamin C to be one of the more bioavailable ingredients. Any other even middling random sampling of 30% Vitamin C products puts the active ingredient right after water (its base) or alcohol (another base).

Example 1

Example 2

It's all very fishy to me. The Vitamin C products that I've found most effective have a light yellow color (from the ferulic or other preservatives), so a perfectly clear hue is strange.
 

Logos

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Dec 1, 2017
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I have dry skin around my nose, forehead. Everywhere else is smooth. I use a moisturizer but haven't seen much change. This is really noticable after a shower.

Any recommendations?
 

The Albatross

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Oct 25, 2017
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I have dry skin around my nose, forehead. Everywhere else is smooth. I use a moisturizer but haven't seen much change. This is really noticable after a shower.

Any recommendations?

For a simple thing to try without buying anything, as you reach the end of your shower, turn down the temperature of the water. Not so that it's *cold* but just not super hot. There's a good chance that as you end your shower you give a good "blast" onto your face/head to get any remaining soap off, etc, just as a habit. Hot water will open up your pours and dry them out, while colder water will close up your pours and keep moisture in.

My back gets really itchy in the winter, and it's really difficult to mosturize your back (it;s big, it's hard to reach), and I've found just using luke warm to cooler water at the end of my showers, instead of hot water, helps that. Doesn't solve it, but it helps.
 

Pet

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Oct 25, 2017
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It's all very fishy to me. The Vitamin C products that I've found most effective have a light yellow color (from the ferulic or other preservatives), so a perfectly clear hue is strange.

I use MelanoCC (as do some friends!), and it's perfectly clear in hue. However, whatever they use in it works pretty well (one of my friends can't use most brightening products like niacinamide, but uses MelanoCC and has seen great improvement.)

For a simple thing to try without buying anything, as you reach the end of your shower, turn down the temperature of the water. Not so that it's *cold* but just not super hot. There's a good chance that as you end your shower you give a good "blast" onto your face/head to get any remaining soap off, etc, just as a habit. Hot water will open up your pours and dry them out, while colder water will close up your pours and keep moisture in.

My back gets really itchy in the winter, and it's really difficult to mosturize your back (it;s big, it's hard to reach), and I've found just using luke warm to cooler water at the end of my showers, instead of hot water, helps that. Doesn't solve it, but it helps.

Pores opening and closing is a skin myth, just FYI. Hot water dries you out quicker, that's true.
 
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Leona Lewis

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I use MelanoCC (as do some friends!), and it's perfectly clear in hue. However, whatever they use in it works pretty well (one of my friends can't use most brightening products like niacinamide, but uses MelanoCC and has seen great improvement.)

Pores opening and closing is a skin myth, just FYI. Hot water dries you out quicker, that's true.
The MelanoCC appears to have <20% Vitamin C actives (most that use Ascorbyl Palmitate are more stable because of a lower concentration), so it would not need the ferulic that gives serums a yellow hue and counteracts the included Ascorbic Acid.

Arbutin is one of my favorite brightening ingredients and would make it even better, but it's a well thought out product.

And preach at the pore myth.
 

Hydrus

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Oct 27, 2017
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Need some help here: My face/ neck seem to be really sensitive to the sun. It gets really red and warm by the end of the day and thats with sunblock applied. I do minimal work outside, maybe like 1 hour total of walking around. I've also developed a really bad tan because of it ( I wear sunglasses all the time, so I got a bad tan line). Any recommendation as far as sunblock goes and what I can do to help get rid of the redness/ warmness/ tan? Tired of my cheeks being red and warm at the end of the work day, especially since it's still winter.
 
Oct 31, 2017
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Not only have I been using moisturizer incorrectly, but I've been exfoliating incorrectly. I've probably been using my sunscreen incorrectly too. byeeee skin care is annoying
 
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Leona Lewis

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Oct 25, 2017
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What do you think about this exfoliant?

Recipe For Men : Facil Scrub (Link)
I'd avoid facial scrubs of any kind, as microbeads and granules don't actually provide any exfoliation. It's just an abrasion on your face akin to a fine cheese grater.

There is one situation for which I recommend facial scrubs, and that's for people on Accutane or using topical tretinoin during those first few weeks where your skin is literally shedding in flakes. No oil or gel cleanser will slough that away, but a facial scrub or a combination of a cleanser + Clarisonic will do.

Otherwise, treat your cleanser as a gentle way to clear away dirt and grime from your skin's outermost layers. Cleansers like the CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleanser not only eschew physical abrasion, but also lack SLS (which, like Pet noted above, is quite frightening for your skin's moisture barrier) and are formulated at low pH levels to not disrupt healthy oil production levels.
 

TheBeardedOne

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Oct 27, 2017
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I had scratched my dishydrosis eczema so much that I had sores on my hand. It's incredibly itchy though. Tough to ignore.

I put a lot of cream on it and most of it has healed and gone away. To the point where it's mostly just dry skin now. I wish it'd go away for good, and don't know what I could be allergic to where it only affects the top part of my right palm and up the sides of a few fingers. The dermatologist just told me that it was a skin allergy, asked a couple of questions and gave me the strongest cream he could. He said not to use a bunch and just to use a q-tip, but I usually just put some on my finger and rub it in. Probably more than I should. And some of it ends up on the rest of my hands, but i haven't noticed any issues.

I use Glysomed, too
 

marimo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Anyone have any recommendations for decent cheap sheet masks? I just tried those Tonymoly I'm Real masks and they really didn't fit my face very well and didn't seem as moisturizing as other masks I've tried.
 

tabris

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Oct 27, 2017
4,236
What do you think about this exfoliant?

Recipe For Men : Facil Scrub (Link

Man what an awful marketing gimmick these "for men" products. Most are poor products.

Yes, on average men have face skin that is a bit thicker, more hydrated (due to facial hair sweat glands), a lower skin pH (by .5), and better collagen production (so less aging concerns), but also due to the facial hair have higher risk of acne and ingrown hair management. But with all of that, men also have a history on average of not using facial skin products which brings all of that down (less hydrated because haven't been using a moisturizer, less collagen release because they don't turn use exfoliators or if they do it's manual exfoliation which like the link and other people said is awful for you even if your skin is a bit thicker), etc. So as a man it's good to keep in mind those genetic average differences between sex - but everyone's skin is different in general - you need to figure out the balance of what products to use based on your skin types and complications.

You should use good products, not poor products slapped with a "for men" tagline for insecure men. In the end, if you're (the general you, not you specifically cebri) not secure using a skincare product that doesn't have a "for men" label - that's a bigger problem to deal with then your skin.

Anyone have any recommendations for decent cheap sheet masks? I just tried those Tonymoly I'm Real masks and they really didn't fit my face very well and didn't seem as moisturizing as other masks I've tried.

Check out Etude House. Really impressed. Like a $1.50 a mask I believe.

Tosowoong masks are decent too.
 
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dmke

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Oct 30, 2017
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The VoilaVe uses ascorbyl glucoside as its primary Vitamin C active to achieve 20% concentration, so it does not require the same degree of preservatives as one that is more reliant on sodium ascorbyl phosphate, which is the more unstable variant of Vitamin C that this particular serum uses more of to achieve a 30% concentration.

The VoilaVe does not need to be refrigerated because of that, but something like the one he linked would turn dark orange very quickly without it.

Thanks for the clarification! The Voilave Vit C serum has worked wonders on both my girlfriend and I. I had acne scarring and she had redness and both have faded dramatically after about two weeks of use.
 

Geirskogul

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Oct 25, 2017
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Anyone here gotten Restylane injections for the undereyes before? Did it work? How much did they cost, and how long did the results last?

Not interested in any hearing about some otc skin care remedies for dark undereye circles because if it exists, I've already tried it. It's time to move on to the higher-end med spa treatments. I'm probably going to get a lower blepharoplasty alongside some other major cosmetic surgery I have planned in a year, but in the meantime I've been looking into temporary remedies.
 
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Pet

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Oct 25, 2017
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I wanted to share this article with y'all because I thought some of you might appreciate it. It hits so close to home it actually kind of burns, like an over exfoliated face. & yes, it's about Asian skincare, so if you're not really into the whole talking about race/ethnicity/etc thing, you can ignore this post!

https://planamag.com/the-asian-century-skincare-edition-cc3d39bd82d9

Jars of LaMer, Sisley, Erno Laszlo lined the counter in their proper order, heavy glass jars quietly shimmering with some secret that belonged to the world of grown women. Often, she would pull out far less glamorous tubes and pots that were normally hidden from view, tacky bottles covered with Korean or Japanese lettering purchased from the back aisles of Asian grocery stores, not Neiman Marcus, yet fiercely treasured and zealously guarded secrets nonetheless.

The lineup on my bathroom counter looks nothing like my mom's. She used the highest end products that money could buy in the States, which in the 80s and 90s invariably meant French, Swiss, or at the very least American that tried to pass as French. The Secret Stash of Korean and Japanese products — the scrubs strong enough to exfoliate sin itself, cleansers smelling of the sort of good green tea only Asians would be able to discern — were relegated to getting tossed in bins under the sink, pulled out for use when needed. And they were needed often. Whatever else was being peddled in those heavy glass jars, quality skincare often was not it. Tokens of luxury, a psychological cocoon, a tangible sign of privilege, of finally belonging — these were what my mom really bought with her hard earned money in the heated years of the Reagan and Bush administrations. And let's face it, all the "good" stuff was incredibly, starkly, white people stuff.

A glossy, perky, Korean face stared at me blown up bigger than life to showcase all the bottles of quirky potions my mom spent my childhood years hiding away. It was more than worlds colliding; it was a veil being lifted between the worlds I spent my adult life navigating between — shopping at the same mix of Neiman Marcus and Asian grocery stores my mom did, and realizing that their value and meaning were completely reversed. In the years since, I've had to confront the psychological weirdness of hearing white girls from Iowa rave about the benefits of snail mucus and unironically drop words like "chok chok" in their skincare reviews on YouTube, while the value of "prestige" names, the French (or French-sounding) brands women of my mother's generation automatically equated with quality, plummeted.

These days, I still have the brands my mom favored. But they stay crammed in the bottom of my bathroom cabinets while the daily lineup, the lineup I rely on to unwind and quietly indulge myself, are unabashedly and proudly Asian. It feels like coming home.
 

nonuser

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Oct 27, 2017
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Anyone have any recommendations for decent cheap sheet masks? I just tried those Tonymoly I'm Real masks and they really didn't fit my face very well and didn't seem as moisturizing as other masks I've tried.

My favorite masks (that are of good price to quality ratio) are the Naruko sheet masks.

This is my favorite from their line (that I've tried): http://www.narukoboutique.com/Narcissus-Repairing-Mask-DNA-p/nnat24-000478.htm These ones are also ~$1.50 each.

They feel a lot more premium than a lot of the "drug store" Korean brands.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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Just as a heads up, for those among us who worship at the altar of tretinoin, the eBay 20% off sale (code PSPRING20) is as good a time as any to stock up on your preferred concentration. I'm personally a 0.1%-er.

A legal gray area, but eBay is nonetheless the easiest and cheapest way to get it if you don't happen to live in a part of the world where it's an OTC drug.

P.S. $25 minimum purchase.
 

RetroGiant

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Oct 25, 2017
592
I have a really annoying issue of seborrheic dermatitis under my beard (would still get the redness and dry flaky skin before I had a beard as well). It's my mustache area, sides of my chin and random spot on my left cheek. I've tried several methods of washing every night, washing a couple times a week, moisturizing, not moisturizing, using medicated washes for sd and eczema, just soap, etc. All seem to lead to massive redness and flaking. It's much more embarrassing when I don't have a beard.

Any tips or certain products you all would recommend? Feel like this is just what I have to live with :(
 

tabris

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Oct 27, 2017
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Here are new products I picked up. The Missha eye care is so much better then the Mizon I used to have. I love the white cute blanc tone-up cream to change up every couple of days from the snail cream. My skin is considerably brighter. And the tea tree oil sheet mask from Etude House is absolutely amazing. Haven't tried the blueberry yet.

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dmke

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Oct 30, 2017
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Good masks to try for sensitive skin? We've tried the Hada Labo Tokyo Anti-Aging Facial Sheet Masks (which are great btw, highly moisturizing and lots of serum), but would like to branch out.

I'm also looking for mask sets where the ingredients differ more than just a little between types. Checking ingredients on a few sets and many of them seem to have very minor changes, i.e., the "Green Tea", "Aloe", and "Snail" masks in a set don't actually have much of each ingredient. This might be the norm and I'm just looking for too much in my sheet masks!
 

Ashhong

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Oct 26, 2017
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What would be the best way to get rid of acne scars? I get very little acne now but I still have tons of scars and holes on my face. Would I need laser treatment or are there products to help me?
 
Oct 30, 2017
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Any guys here who have had hormonal acne? Seems like the more frequent and more intense my workouts get, the worse my breakouts appear. I guess I could stop for a week and test to see if that's the culprit, but I'm sort of hesitant since I don't want to halt my progress. I tried cutting out dairy, which only cleared up my cheek acne, but I've been getting some on my jawline and chin area, which I think is hormonal anyway since exercise, testosterone, and acne all have a connection somehow.

What would be the best way to get rid of acne scars? I get very little acne now but I still have tons of scars and holes on my face. Would I need laser treatment or are there products to help me?
If we're talking about dark red spots or hyperpigmentation, then you can use Vitamin C to help accelerate the healing process. Laser treatments will also help in that regard, as well as with indented or pitted acne scarring. There are also cheaper options such as dermapen, subcision, and microneedling techniques to reduce hyperpigmentation and/or scarring. You might also want to look up dermarolling, which is another cheap option that you can do at home; they're mostly useful for clearing up dark spots as well as lifting up very shallow scars overtime.
 

Saya

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Oct 25, 2017
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My Hada Labo moisturizing milk is running on empty and they don't sell this brand where I am at the moment. Any good alternatives? I really would like something milky and light. Not a lotion that is too thick.
 

Hours Left

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Oct 26, 2017
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I could use some suggestions for a good, cheap toner and exfoliant for blemish prone skin, male, in the 25-34 age range. I'm in Canada and I won't be ordering anything online at the moment. I need something local. (I know everyone loves Paula's Choice, but that's not an option for me right now.)

Currently I use CeraVe Foaming Facial Cleanser in the morning and evening, as well as their AM Facial Moisturizing Lotion w/SPF 30. (I need a nighttime moisturizer/serum too but I need to get back to basics first.)

Leona Lewis gave me some great advice a few years ago, but since then I went through a very long illness and some times of intense stress so I've been set back a ways and I'd like to get back on track. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
 

nonuser

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Oct 27, 2017
498
Just as a heads up, for those among us who worship at the altar of tretinoin, the eBay 20% off sale (code PSPRING20) is as good a time as any to stock up on your preferred concentration. I'm personally a 0.1%-er.

A legal gray area, but eBay is nonetheless the easiest and cheapest way to get it if you don't happen to live in a part of the world where it's an OTC drug.

P.S. $25 minimum purchase.

Just curious, how long does a tube (let's say 20g) last you?

What type of application schedule are you on?

Thanks!

My Hada Labo moisturizing milk is running on empty and they don't sell this brand where I am at the moment. Any good alternatives? I really would like something milky and light. Not a lotion that is too thick.

I would say a somewhat comparable moisturizing toner that I have used would be Kikumasamune Sake Skin Lotion.

You can also visit here for more suggestions, assuming you're into AB.
 
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Lady Murasaki

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Oct 25, 2017
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Anyone knows this product? Is it good? I want to try some snail products and it seemed pretty interesting.

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brokenmachine

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Oct 27, 2017
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What's the consensus here on how your diet can affect your skin?

Anecdotally I've found that eliminating diary, and drastically reducing the amount of sugar I consume has helped me a lot. Yeah it sucks, but nothing tastes as good as having clear(er) skins feels... for me at least.
 

Unducks

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Nov 4, 2017
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I've had these persistent small bumps on my forehead for a few months and I'm not sure what to do. Spot treatment isn't doing anything. I've been trying to do double cleansing starting this week and that seems to be helping the rest of my face, but no real progress on the bumps. I think the rest of my routine is good but I can't figure this one out. Any advice?